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 I am preparing for Global Recession, Be cash rich

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smartinvestor01
post Sep 8 2011, 09:23 AM

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Instead of recession, i think better to look forward for what will be happening to Malaysia in the year 2019..

Dont forget about the prediction those people made before..

We can see that:-
a) Inflation is running high;
b) Unemployment is fetching up;
c) Gov Expenditure getting more;
d) And, I believe certain Gov policy were also costly to be implemented..

Better be cautious for this..

Though they keep denying about this, from those above elements, it is possible to happen..


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post Sep 8 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 09:39 AM)
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I dont think cutting the subsidies is enough, there are many things that cannot be avoided..

According to www.transparency.org, our Corruption Perceptions Index is 4.4, while Singapore is 9.3, better than us..

Country recession and our country highly debt issue, i think highly debt issue is the worse part..



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post Sep 8 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 8 2011, 10:46 AM)
How about bond funds? It is going to survive through the recession? im talking about asean n malaysia bonds. not euro or US.
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If you are buying Malaysia bonds, you are facing credit risks.. During that time, your bonds are hard to sell..


Added on September 8, 2011, 2:51 pm
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 10:48 AM)
Thats what happened to U.S............highly geared DEBT...... methinks our paternalistic
attitude of our politics has made it too late to turn around. Just look at the population of
civil servants.........last estimate at 1.6mil.
Our pop is only around 27mil....do you need 1 civil servant to serve 17 people?

next, if our attitude of deficit spending is not reeled in, EPF will be kaput...............

see the thread in real world section
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Bravo, good quote about the statistics of 1 civil servant serving 17 people..

Well, its not that i want to say we private sectors are good, but we can really see the poor service from the gov agencies..

Last few days i made a call to follow up with a government agency, and guess what? They did not even intended to answer the phone.. Even after answer the phone, they talk fiercely..

If the government keep on rising the salary of those pension people, even declared bonus, sorry la, how long can our country stand? Imagine average all those pensioners can live a long live, then all the pensioners are creditors to the country...

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smartinvestor01
post Sep 13 2011, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 09:45 PM)
You will quiver when you know that for budget 2011 of Rm240b,
Rm40b is for the salaries of gov servants, past and present.

If this goes on, how will the country sustain such practices?
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I really no eye see about it..

I guess they are going to announce another increment to the civil servants..

Well, their perception..;'... who cares about the private sector employees', are making me quite fed-up..

They did not do their part to care about the private sector employees..

If this practice continues, we are heading to a more heavily debt nation, thanks to their irrational policy..


Added on September 13, 2011, 1:02 pm
QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Sep 9 2011, 12:27 AM)
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will it be save to put money in bank locally by then?
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Well, i cannot help to be pessimistic in this sense..

I am now in the watch for the Malaysian economy over the time, the most important time to watch is between the year 2017 to 2021..

MCA comments

Check on the link..

Also sounded like if our country do not achieve high income status in 2020, we will be like Indonesia and Vietnam..

Then, the comments by Dato Tan Seri Idris Jala then i added before also around that time, which is in 2019.

Though, the nation denied the comment, it is better to be extra careful..


Added on September 13, 2011, 1:04 pm
QUOTE(mois @ Sep 8 2011, 03:22 PM)
I bought bond funds from public mutual. Are you saying that i cannot sell my bond funds if there is credit risks? Because im not buying a particular bond, it is bond funds. So i guess there is no problem to sell through public mutual if got credit risk right?
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Credit risks are due to default problems by bond issuing companies, which are not related to Public Mutual.. Public Mutual selects the most secure companies who are issuing those bonds..

Anyway, it really depends on the business of those bond issuing companies by that time..


Added on September 13, 2011, 1:06 pm
QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Sep 9 2011, 12:27 AM)
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will it be save to put money in bank locally by then?
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I think international banks.. Just my opinion..


Added on September 14, 2011, 10:23 am
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 9 2011, 08:49 AM)
Thats right...........AND they will continue with MGS bond issues to be subscribed by EPF to............to
fund the paying of the 1.6mil GOV SERVANTS salaries and pensions............

Whatta a nice merry go round.........  till the EPF cow becomes.............................
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Lets assume that a civil servant work with a basic salary of RM2500, monthly pension is RM1250..

He retires at the age of 58, lives until the age of 80 (Conservative target), the pensioner will get RM15,000 per year just by staying at home, for the 22 years, he gets RM330,000..

Oh my gosh, not yet add the bonus that they can even get without working. And i am only calculating one single staff, how about if we calculate the millions of staff going for retirement soon..



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post Sep 14 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 14 2011, 01:34 PM)
Even if going for international banks, be careful too, US and European banks are risky.

I will vote for Singapore banks today.
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Well, i agree with you..

Singapore's economy is at least more safe.. ^^


Added on September 14, 2011, 11:21 pm
QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 14 2011, 03:47 PM)
singapore more likely to get hit by recession 1st/ or at least the technical ones
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I dont think so..

You can see how the country control the inflation rate of the country..

Even the corruption index of the Singapore country is much better compared to our nation..

Check it in Transparency Index

It is somewhere in this website..

Malaysia is rated as 4.4, while Singapore is 9.3, which is slightly more cleaner than the nation.

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