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Sep 5 2011, 11:53 PM
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All Stars
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Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Sep 5 2011, 11:11 PM) Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah!Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead? Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons. 1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight 2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera. 3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha Will Panhead be able to help? |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM) Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah! What sifu? i not sifu lah. Well why u mushroom pic dun use F5.6 can more light and see more boookeh Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead? Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons. 1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight 2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera. 3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha Will Panhead be able to help? |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:47 AM
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6,075 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: 3.1553587,101.7135668 |
QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM) Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah! Pan head doesnt guarantee str8 horizons too if your technique is wrong in the 1st place. I personally feel that ball heads are more versatile and easier to get it into position than pan head, one knob to lock and release compared to pan head's 3 way adjustments. Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead? Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons. 1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight 2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera. 3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha Will Panhead be able to help? Your prob no.1 & 3 is easily overcome with careful alignment of the camera, or u can get a bubble level to be extra sure. But I usually use the focus dots inside the ovf to know if the shot is straight or not. As for your no.2, a bit of being more careful of your gears will be enough, panheads will have the same issue too if you are still not careful when u use it. |
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Sep 6 2011, 08:59 AM
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15,856 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Zion |
Get a camera with a built in horizon level meter: problem solved.
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Sep 6 2011, 10:55 AM
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Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 5 2011, 08:26 PM) i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens...and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see... This post has been edited by neo_lam: Sep 6 2011, 12:00 PM |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM) i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens... probably if they do make sure price go 1v1 with Leica digital RF and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see... p.s~ sony pls make 1 EVF-RF style so that neo_lam come back |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM) i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens... Nothing about e mount lens being FF or apsc lens, just that for now NEX sensor is based on apsc design.and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see... |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM) i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens... It's possible, there might be a likelihood, albeit low.and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see... Btw, to some A77 testers out there, some people said, after 1 sec bursting, the buffer will be full and the cam will kinda shut down? Izzit true? This post has been edited by chiahau: Sep 6 2011, 12:17 PM |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:20 PM
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Sep 6 2011, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Sep 6 2011, 12:15 PM) probably if they do make sure price go 1v1 with Leica digital RF He wont balik dah, obsess with his m6 now p.s~ sony pls make 1 EVF-RF style so that neo_lam come back QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 6 2011, 12:16 PM) It's possible, there might be a likelihood, albeit low. the buffer is still low same as a55, and i think it happen to all SD slot camera alsoBtw, to some A77 testers out there, some people said, after 1 sec bursting, the buffer will be full and the cam will kinda shut down? Izzit true? |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 6 2011, 12:21 PM) He wont balik dah, obsess with his m6 now If you are telling me that bursting 12fps in 24mpx RAW + JPEG can last only 1 sec, then its likely to annoy me off lolthe buffer is still low same as a55, and i think it happen to all SD slot camera also But if at 12fps JPEG/RAW only, can it last longer? SD card, even class 10 or extreme, expected already it will slow down but not till so drastic? |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:25 PM
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should i go Nex 5N or A77?
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Sep 6 2011, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM) Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah! whho ask u use the rm40 ballhead Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead? Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons. 1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight 2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera. 3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha Will Panhead be able to help? |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 6 2011, 12:25 PM) If you are telling me that bursting 12fps in 24mpx RAW + JPEG can last only 1 sec, then its likely to annoy me off lol d7000 if shoot 24bit raw, it can only write till 11 images, while standard jpeg can write up to 100 images lo.But if at 12fps JPEG/RAW only, can it last longer? SD card, even class 10 or extreme, expected already it will slow down but not till so drastic? And a77 limit is 13 images And also, where can u find a memory card that cansubstain 24mp * 12 per second? This post has been edited by Zicron: Sep 6 2011, 12:41 PM |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:36 PM
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Elite
3,928 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak |
Sony is crazy, i never think they will ever serious making NEX into pro, look at Nex7,... there is possible they will make a mirrorless FF.... and it seem they put a lot focus on E mount, because its something that really belongs to them,... unlike A mount is still minolta legacy.
Added on September 6, 2011, 12:42 pmerm, A/D conversion takes time too... that why 850/900 has dual bionz... one to "work/metering/af/etc" during shooting, another for A/D conversion (jpeg too), the buffer dont work one way, it also buffer for analog data... so can see drastic improvement when shooting at lower resolution/slower speed in practice (dont look at spec speed) i tested 580 can large jpeg 5fps for about 15 sec before it start to slowdown on Hi Speed Card (W 20mb/s) which i highly doubt is card speed related. 5fps x 15 sec is 75 jpegs is a lot. but compare to that A77 24mp... anyHOW, why you need 12fps? u already got 2.1mp 60fps on A77 too. This post has been edited by ieR: Sep 6 2011, 12:42 PM |
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Sep 6 2011, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 6 2011, 08:59 AM) QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 6 2011, 12:47 AM) Pan head doesnt guarantee str8 horizons too if your technique is wrong in the 1st place. I personally feel that ball heads are more versatile and easier to get it into position than pan head, one knob to lock and release compared to pan head's 3 way adjustments. Oh. Thanks for the tip. But if everything ballhead then whats panhead for? Videography?Your prob no.1 & 3 is easily overcome with careful alignment of the camera, or u can get a bubble level to be extra sure. But I usually use the focus dots inside the ovf to know if the shot is straight or not. As for your no.2, a bit of being more careful of your gears will be enough, panheads will have the same issue too if you are still not careful when u use it. QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 6 2011, 12:34 PM) whho ask u use the rm40 ballhead I memang using RM40 ballhead. Hahahah! No money lah! Money printing machine sent for servicing. |
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Sep 6 2011, 01:22 PM
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14,082 posts Joined: Aug 2009 From: Malaysia |
QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 6 2011, 12:35 PM) d7000 if shoot 24bit raw, it can only write till 11 images, while standard jpeg can write up to 100 images lo. Exactly. Aww well, guess I shall not be too bothered bout that than.And a77 limit is 13 images And also, where can u find a memory card that cansubstain 24mp * 12 per second? Erm, Class 10 extreme class could transfer up to like 30mb? Maybe we need the good old CF back liao. QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 6 2011, 12:36 PM) Sony is crazy, i never think they will ever serious making NEX into pro, look at Nex7,... there is possible they will make a mirrorless FF.... and it seem they put a lot focus on E mount, because its something that really belongs to them,... unlike A mount is still minolta legacy. Another good point, but 12 fps is one of the selling point of A77.... Added on September 6, 2011, 12:42 pmerm, A/D conversion takes time too... that why 850/900 has dual bionz... one to "work/metering/af/etc" during shooting, another for A/D conversion (jpeg too), the buffer dont work one way, it also buffer for analog data... so can see drastic improvement when shooting at lower resolution/slower speed in practice (dont look at spec speed) i tested 580 can large jpeg 5fps for about 15 sec before it start to slowdown on Hi Speed Card (W 20mb/s) which i highly doubt is card speed related. 5fps x 15 sec is 75 jpegs is a lot. but compare to that A77 24mp... anyHOW, why you need 12fps? u already got 2.1mp 60fps on A77 too. I would rather like to be able to use it, however rare XD |
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Sep 6 2011, 01:27 PM
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5D2 22MP maximum burst specs: 3.9 shots per second, RAW buffer 14 7D 18MP maximum burst specs: 8 shots per second, RAW buffer 15 A77 24MP maximum burst specs: 12 shots per second, RAW buffer 13 U can see that a77 and 5d2 buffer is almost the same, thou 5d2 is slower in fps. So i guess the main problem is with the memory card now. |
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