QUOTE(tyenfei @ Feb 25 2012, 12:12 AM)
I think they called it the wheel arch treatment... purpose is to get rid of those tyre, road noise, and low frequency drone...[Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next
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Feb 25 2012, 12:18 AM
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Feb 25 2012, 12:30 AM
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yup wheel arch treatment, still can hear noise from the tyres but at acceptable level when going through NKVE hahaha. icecube cost at about 400, the process take about 4-5hours. desmond charge you about 1000 for package(including tyres treatment)-gold package,i think.
this pipe is longer, got extension, as previously shorter pipe is above the engine and will generate hot air. which is not good. If worried about warranty, before going to perodua, just remove the filter and f1-z as removing them is very2 easy as well as installing them. both of them is using stp product for soundproofing and very2 expensive especially if decided to do stp on 3m door wind treatment+hood+floor+firewall+roof+5 door+tyres treatment. i think probably can reach 3000 not including autofoam which cost you from 1000~1300. If have friend, better try to DIY for cheaper price, but STP product doesn't come cheap although its DIY and not all area using the same stp as stp also got varieties. This post has been edited by ikram_p: Feb 25 2012, 12:37 AM |
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Feb 25 2012, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Feb 25 2012, 12:30 AM) yup wheel arch treatment, still can hear noise from the tyres but at acceptable level when going through NKVE hahaha. icecube cost at about 400, the process take about 4-5hours. desmond charge you about 1000 for package(including tyres treatment)-gold package,i think. I've checked icecube's threads, his 400 bucks treatment apparently does not involve entirely on STP Mastic. He either mixed it or used entirely his in-house brand. His full Mastic treatment has a separate thread which never mention the price, of which I would assume a lot more expensive (probably comparable to Desmond's) since he mentioned that his 400 bucks treatment is a cheaper solution.this pipe is longer, got extension, as previously shorter pipe is above the engine and will generate hot air. which is not good. If worried about warranty, before going to perodua, just remove the filter and f1-z as removing them is very2 easy as well as installing them. both of them is using stp product for soundproofing and very2 expensive especially if decided to do stp on 3m door wind treatment+hood+floor+firewall+roof+5 door+tyres treatment. i think probably can reach 3000 not including autofoam which cost you from 1000~1300. If have friend, better try to DIY for cheaper price, but STP product doesn't come cheap although its DIY and not all area using the same stp as stp also got varieties. Desmond is charging RM 900 for the STP Mastic treatment. I would love to DIY to save cost, sadly I'm not the DIY type... and everytime I wanna DIY, just tarak kaki lar... I've not done any wheel arch treatment other than the earlier White Magic treatment that Desmond offered. I'm already enjoying the acceptable noise level on NKVE concrete pavement as a result of the combined Autofoam and White Magic... Other than that, other usual Malaysian-styled coarse roads really get on my nerves even with my new Michelin PS3... Or maybe I'm just picky... This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 25 2012, 12:51 AM |
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Feb 25 2012, 10:46 AM
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Feb 25 2012, 02:01 PM
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Yalor, so last minute. I'm not in town also. Aiya.... aiya.... aiyaya.... aiyayaya..... aiaiya..... aiaiyaya....
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Feb 25 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Feb 25 2012, 10:46 AM) QUOTE(n8210 @ Feb 25 2012, 02:01 PM) Yalor, so last minute. I'm not in town also. Aiya.... aiya.... aiyaya.... aiyayaya..... aiaiya..... aiaiyaya.... Postpone to next week lor... then we all have the chance to test drive his prized possession lor... |
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Feb 25 2012, 03:32 PM
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Hahahaha! Later afer test drive no difference or even worse dun tulan ok?
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Feb 25 2012, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Feb 25 2012, 03:32 PM) why tulan...? it's your car, not our car... if we don't find satisfaction, we won't install that little gadget then... not that we're gonna crash it... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Feb 25 2012, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Feb 25 2012, 12:47 AM) I've checked icecube's threads, his 400 bucks treatment apparently does not involve entirely on STP Mastic. He either mixed it or used entirely his in-house brand. His full Mastic treatment has a separate thread which never mention the price, of which I would assume a lot more expensive (probably comparable to Desmond's) since he mentioned that his 400 bucks treatment is a cheaper solution. well, i tought michelin PS3 is very2 good as the noise is lower? in that case, nothing much can be done about that, the most noise pollution for me right now, are coming from bellow(tyres). i still use silverstone M5 at 36000km usage. i dunno if hood+firewall and floor can help that much. we need person which has done complete set up on soundproof in his alza to reviews. Desmond is charging RM 900 for the STP Mastic treatment. I would love to DIY to save cost, sadly I'm not the DIY type... and everytime I wanna DIY, just tarak kaki lar... I've not done any wheel arch treatment other than the earlier White Magic treatment that Desmond offered. I'm already enjoying the acceptable noise level on NKVE concrete pavement as a result of the combined Autofoam and White Magic... Other than that, other usual Malaysian-styled coarse roads really get on my nerves even with my new Michelin PS3... Or maybe I'm just picky... |
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Feb 25 2012, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Feb 25 2012, 06:13 PM) well, i tought michelin PS3 is very2 good as the noise is lower? in that case, nothing much can be done about that, the most noise pollution for me right now, are coming from bellow(tyres). i still use silverstone M5 at 36000km usage. i dunno if hood+firewall and floor can help that much. we need person which has done complete set up on soundproof in his alza to reviews. I never said the PS3s were bad... As a matter of fact it's way quieter and less vibration compared to the SS M5s... But without treatment on floor, firewall, and fender it is still noisy on coarse roads... Nevertheless resurfaced roads are a nice glide on the PS3s, soothing to my ears... Too bad Malaysian roads are not always the case...Speaking of noise, I also need to tackle the engine noise when it goes above 110kph... That thing struggles when it comes to that speed, so traveling outstation is not comfy on the Alza... |
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Feb 25 2012, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Feb 25 2012, 07:14 PM) I never said the PS3s were bad... As a matter of fact it's way quieter and less vibration compared to the SS M5s... But without treatment on floor, firewall, and fender it is still noisy on coarse roads... Nevertheless resurfaced roads are a nice glide on the PS3s, soothing to my ears... Too bad Malaysian roads are not always the case... yup, the best thing we can do is soundproofing at one section at a time(if got extra money can move further). recommend stp materials as they are many time thicker than other products. Yes i read on stp facebook, tires treatment alone will not make any sense, much move further at floor, firewall and doors are needed. well i guess because i'm was not born rich, i guess i will treat my car slowly according to budget Speaking of noise, I also need to tackle the engine noise when it goes above 110kph... That thing struggles when it comes to that speed, so traveling outstation is not comfy on the Alza... |
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Feb 28 2012, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Feb 25 2012, 07:14 PM) I never said the PS3s were bad... As a matter of fact it's way quieter and less vibration compared to the SS M5s... But without treatment on floor, firewall, and fender it is still noisy on coarse roads... Nevertheless resurfaced roads are a nice glide on the PS3s, soothing to my ears... Too bad Malaysian roads are not always the case... Yah, stuck at the same situation with XM tyres. Engine noise above 110kph. Aircon also... now I'm thinking should I change, go test drive the new Avanza.Speaking of noise, I also need to tackle the engine noise when it goes above 110kph... That thing struggles when it comes to that speed, so traveling outstation is not comfy on the Alza... |
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Feb 28 2012, 11:56 AM
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After use of 18K mileage .. still worth to trade in my SS M5 ?? haiz ...
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Feb 28 2012, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Feb 28 2012, 07:52 AM) Yah, stuck at the same situation with XM tyres. Engine noise above 110kph. Aircon also... now I'm thinking should I change, go test drive the new Avanza. Very loaded to be able to change a new car after what... a year of owning the Alza...? QUOTE(tyenfei @ Feb 28 2012, 11:56 AM) You might be able to get about 30 bucks a piece... It's still better than nothing... |
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Feb 28 2012, 02:12 PM
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Thinking stage, you must have a need then only see what is available to make things happen.
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Feb 28 2012, 05:31 PM) not with that turbo engine... let the lab rats ride the bugs out first... see how many ppl actually blow the engines off the road... this is after a lesson learnt from being perodua's lab rat blowing off their quality issues... This post has been edited by Eithanius: Feb 28 2012, 05:36 PM |
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Thinking of a vw....
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