wow wow ~

We all got our own point of view and which is true in fact, also the bad feeling after paying then get something ... unsatisfying.

BUT, please lah. Shooting here doesn't help .. right?

Cursing me is just a joke, but i bet those who wanted to curse P2 is because the hard time they been through.

For me I don't curse Proton (may be a few words of "stupid" ) .. but I'll curse myself if get another Brand New Proton..

Let's keep this topic for the Alza, fighting, go start another topic

some smart ass just couldn't stand other ppl bashing up a car brand and started sticking his nose where it doesn't belong...

nah, arguing further with a "caveman" will not go anywhere, some ppl just think they right all the time and when ppl "politely" comment on his opinion, he go bring out his private part and start showing whose boss... yeah, encounter such ppl before, mostly internet warrior, im just gonna ignore "The Boss" and stick to the topic..

Aduh, let's not continue this alright? Remember, no matter how thin a piece of paper is, there is always 2 sides. People who are happy with their car, please express here. People who are not happy with their car, please express here.

Are you going to tell the next person whose spare tyre flew away, get bashed by kampung people for P2's fault cannot express themselves here?! Each experience is very real to each individual. If we are talking of the same brand, but different car (different plate number), then the experience is very individual. Even brothers of a same mother also react differently at times despite their similarities. But we respect them both (the brothers) as individuals.

So there is no right and wrong, it is just our experience.

This post has been edited by n8210: Dec 5 2011, 10:14 PM

ya ya. lets stick to the topic "Alza" MPV or Car .. what ever .

anyone using F1 double spin fan + mushroom air filter ? or test with Cyclone ?? Please share share ya. TQ

bro, please read correctly, im not starting any flame, im just politely commenting, but some ppl just have to bring his "private" and other ppl "privates" to the table and start butthurting... believe me, when ppl start throwing the "f" word around, i loose respect for tat guy no matter wat he said later... again, im gonna stop now, no point already cuz the respect are not there...

Your car installed already right?

im gonna keep my engine as stock as possible, but gonna upgrade the wheels to 17" tis coming Christmas...

any wheels of yours to share?

I asked about changing the air intake with sentell jaya, the boss say not much help. How much air intake and fuel, etc... all already controlled by cpu. So... asked me not to waste my money.

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Added on December 5, 2011, 10:35 pmSo long as you understand the pros and cons of upgrading to 17"

This post has been edited by n8210: Dec 5 2011, 10:35 PM

just add VS and GC only .. imitation one. a little bit help only.

was plan to install F1 double spin fan + mushroom filter.

coz a few MAOC members personally share with me really got improve the performance.

yes, im still in the dilemma here... 15" with 7j or 17"... but for sure the rating (tyres) must match with the factory recommended...

hi im new here... alza owner also...

already V2 wooo....

hope to know all of u and sharing about our cars...

A MAOC member share with me after change to 17" ... he go Genting almost every car overtake him. Including kancil

Now he installed the double spin fan + filter, waiting his next genting trip and report

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Added on December 5, 2011, 11:04 pmWelcome

finish read the 1st page? Our TS spent hard time to make it nicely

Also lots more info at myalza.com if you are full member.

Here more like chit chat style.

This post has been edited by tyenfei: Dec 5 2011, 11:04 PM

just a few comment on the "cyclone fan" thing, it suppose to make the air going in the combustion chamber in a swirling motion right? but if it install before the throttle body, the swirl effect is gone after it hit the throttle butterfly itself, thus rendering the effect useless... and it somehow restrict airflow more that improving it... my verdict of the device is total useless unless u r using a real turbo or supercharger... remember, to increase horsepower, a simple basic knowledge is to increase air and fuel going into the combustion chamber...

I don't need your f***ing respect... the moment you stepped onto my tail by saying it ain't cool it's already a disrespect... and I reiterate again, it is supposedly meant to be a joke for someone, and why the heck you bother in the first place since you're not the recipient of that joke...? And you expect ppl to respect you...?

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Added on December 5, 2011, 11:36 pmThat's why I'm telling you, he's trying to be a smart ass by saying we should be content with our 60k purchase because he apparently "thinks" or rather his mechanic friends brainwashed him to believe that even 500k car is made of the same quality, and suffers the same problems our 60k cars do... If that's the case, then what happened to the supposedly excellent after-sales service since 60k car is on par with 500k car...? 500k car manufacturer are supposed to provide better after-sales service right...?

We're talking about on par, aren't we...?

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Dec 5 2011, 11:37 PM

So, by "stepping on your tail" with the word "ain't cool" grant you the right to talk smack?

Fine, u win, I"ll just make sure not to step on any "tails" in here cuz it was not cool...

Let us welcome you to our worse nightmare...

Whatever problems you have here, fire it away...

Less macam macam la. More apa macam? Dah makan? Nak minum?

Is it normal for the brakes to get super hot even with less than 15 minutes of driving...? no hard braking involved...

today mandi kereta, smoke came out in contact with water... makes me feel Alza brakes are so unreliable... that's probably the reason why I'm getting those vibrations on high speed long distance braking...