[Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next
[Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next
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Oct 24 2011, 02:58 PM
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n8210, i am more concern about the sound
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Oct 24 2011, 03:01 PM
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ahahaha... me too... super sick of M5...
bloody Beruk2 con kao us with inferior tyres... This post has been edited by Eithanius: Oct 24 2011, 03:02 PM |
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Oct 24 2011, 03:10 PM
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I think any new tyres would give you less noise. But in my personal experience, pursuing this path is meaningless. It is, in the end, a lower quality car priced wrongly. We can add materials such as insuflex to cover (half) of the whole side doors. What about the windows?
So first, it was very noisy. We can hear motorcycles, lorries, etc... after added insuflex, then we can clearly hear the tyre/uneven road noise. So I change the tyres. Now, without the tyre noise, I start to hear the motorcycles, lorries, etc again, because the window sides are still not properly "patched". To expect a premium quality car's experience while driving Alza is not impossible, but definitely need a lot of investment in terms of money and effort, just to make all the short comings less irritating. I may look into adding foam, getting a VS, or swap both of those expenses for a soft-turbo kit. But that is all I would invest in this darn car. Any more investment is meaningless, cos I might as well look at a decent second hand WV. |
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Oct 24 2011, 03:17 PM
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Means effective
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Oct 24 2011, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Oct 24 2011, 03:10 PM) I think any new tyres would give you less noise. But in my personal experience, pursuing this path is meaningless. It is, in the end, a lower quality car priced wrongly. We can add materials such as insuflex to cover (half) of the whole side doors. What about the windows? hmm.... which gives me a wild idea... maybe I should pop up the hood on the Perodua-loaned MyVI and check if there's a soft-turbo kit inside somewhere... So first, it was very noisy. We can hear motorcycles, lorries, etc... after added insuflex, then we can clearly hear the tyre/uneven road noise. So I change the tyres. Now, without the tyre noise, I start to hear the motorcycles, lorries, etc again, because the window sides are still not properly "patched". To expect a premium quality car's experience while driving Alza is not impossible, but definitely need a lot of investment in terms of money and effort, just to make all the short comings less irritating. I may look into adding foam, getting a VS, or swap both of those expenses for a soft-turbo kit. But that is all I would invest in this darn car. Any more investment is meaningless, cos I might as well look at a decent second hand WV. Anyhow, to reiterate what I've experienced so far, the MyVi as tin-a-can as it seem, is far more powerful and more quiet compared to my Alza. Yes you are right, Perodua screwed up big time on pricing and quality control on the Alza, which is a great disappointment after being their loyal customer for more than 8 years. |
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Oct 24 2011, 03:32 PM
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make some effort to reduce noise, sure get some results. actually insuflex is not the best, cos it is soft. you need more than one layer of material, meaning a combination of soft and harder materials to counter the noise. But don't forget, this is just half the door! A lot of noise comes in from the window too.
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Oct 24 2011, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Oct 24 2011, 03:32 PM) make some effort to reduce noise, sure get some results. actually insuflex is not the best, cos it is soft. you need more than one layer of material, meaning a combination of soft and harder materials to counter the noise. But don't forget, this is just half the door! A lot of noise comes in from the window too. One thing I learn from KL Auto, if the cabin goes too quiet, it create a heavy pressure feel inside the cabin, that's why those fellas there refused adding another layer of soundproofing material despite me offering to pay more. And being too quiet a cabin will result in more stressful driving, because one cannot gauge what's outside e.g. a bike or heavy vehicle close by and at the same time obscured by blind spots. |
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Oct 24 2011, 03:56 PM
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I have sat in a Jaguar XJR6 before. It is so much quieter. Oh, I have not done anything on the engine compartment to stop noise coming in. All I have done is the floor and the doors.
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Oct 24 2011, 04:05 PM
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Yeah, I've driven my dad's Camry which should be less quieter than a Jaguar or a Lexus, is still much quieter than mine...
I've yet to do floor and firewall... Donuts hopefully by next month.... |
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Oct 24 2011, 04:37 PM
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after reading all yours comment ...
so i better let it be .. the SS M5 ... since trade in will be no value and no extra budget for new donuts |
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Oct 24 2011, 04:53 PM
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Oct 24 2011, 04:58 PM
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Oct 24 2011, 05:02 PM
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Oct 24 2011, 05:06 PM
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Oct 24 2011, 05:10 PM
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no comment....
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Oct 24 2011, 05:48 PM
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tyenfei, take pictures of your tyre and show us. See your bunga.
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Oct 24 2011, 06:47 PM
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Oct 24 2011, 07:00 PM
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I sold to other end users. Trade in no price, cos they want to make profit also. And it ain't rm5 profit per donut.
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Oct 25 2011, 12:07 AM
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Oct 25 2011, 09:39 AM
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based on 10k mileage, i suspect you might get a market price of RM400-RM450 if you are lucky. That is half of your RM900 XM2 budget. Can consider kua...
go check in market, what is the actual price for M5, brand new. |
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