I've spent 4k on my Alza for things that other ppl cannot see... Still not satisfied...

Alza if lower spring and put 15" sport rim with thick tyre and all dark tinten wow cool.
But make sure you need get the full spec.

Some like to do customization with the 20k available to them. Because after the customization, hey... you have a "personal" car. Even if you get grand livina, I'm sure you will not be 100% satisfy, then you will also spend some budget to customize it. So it is a matter of where is your starting point. At 60k, or at 80k. So this depends on what you want to do and your pocket size lo.

Plus, remember we change our perspective when we start at different levels. Some of us might feel starting at 80k car, wow.. no more complain lo... or maybe just a bit. But with the same car, for someone who is rich, wahlau... this needs changing, that needs changing, this one ugly, that one make noise, etc... I'm sure a lot of complaint also.

The summary of this forum points to one and only one thing, Eithanius is RICH la!!....So when belanjar all readers here makan minum?

If I'm rich, I wouldn't have wasted my money on an Alza... wouldn't have gone for a Livina at least...

Better still a Wish or an Estima...

And if I'm rich also straight away sell off this piece of junk without giving a damn about second-hand value...

Point is, poor ppl like us can only afford Alza as the cheapest MPV on the market, and Perodua took advantage of that and gave us a poor quality car...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Oct 11 2011, 09:35 PM

no lah, still others option for MPV this kind of price.

my wife wanted Citra at 1st, she tested very comfort back seat and 2.0 power.

but after estimated the car's resale value and spare parts pricing .. oops, not suite to us.

Citra went down in price becoz it's not selling well due to fuel consumption as I was told... guzzle like one kind... my cousin has one, he said comfy interior wor... he came by kl just last weekend, never got a chance to try out his car though... His one is one of a kind pearl white that I've come across, never similar colors plying the roads in kl... Mostly are blacks and silvers...

Previously it was thought to be around 90k, then down to 70+k.... Now below 70k can get one dy...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Oct 11 2011, 10:09 PM

the Citra old model about 62K only.

one of my father's friend is heavy foot driver, he said his citra FC really high after 1 year +

after 2 yrs use he really regret. but i know his driving style really like rally race = ="

I don't think Korea car will be worth buy and due to 2nd hand value with fuel comsuption too high, even Kia forte as the same.

Korea worth to buy, if afford to change every 2 years.

else ... pengsan

Ha ha like that only works for bank.

A little update of my car... Masuk kilang this friday while Perodua gets me a replacement car for temporary use...

Wah so good how you do this?

For me, I never expected sound proof will be good for this 5-doors compact MPV. As you mentioned about the built quality, it was not as good as toyota or even daihatsu but still yet better than proton except chassis toughness.

My car was auto EZi, stock & non-modify, spark plug, air filter and 10W/30 API SM used standard as spec written. I managed to clocked at RM 0.15 / km or 12.6km / L (Light and moderate foot) , jam 3 hours a day to pj and back home daily.

1. Sound proof, Perodua Alza 2011 already w/roof sound proof, those before 2011 that can report to P2 and have them to install it FOC. Don't give high expectation on 5 doors local made compact MPV. Due to cost constraint, all had been removed to minimal if compare to Toyota Passo Sette.
SO, PLEASE DON'T EXPECT CABIN NOISE WILL BE QUIET AS 4-DOORS SEDAN!

2. Power to weight ratio, not as good as 1NZ-FE engine but enough to move it freely. For me, I felt it was ok if compare to heavier proton exora. 3SZ-VE was good in low to mid torque, sufficient for town use. 1NZ-FE was full aluminium engine where else 3SZ-VE was cast iron engine. Both different in material and of course the cost to built it. Therefore performance and FC will be slightly different.

3. Chassis toughness, only met Daihatsu Total Advanced Function compliant, proton was better than perodua!

http://www.daihatsu-aichi.co.jp/en/daihatsu-cars/

4. Seldom got weird problem. 3SZ-VE well known to be used in Toyota and Daihatsu. I can said much more steady and reliable than campro series engine. Gearbox, it happened to some unlucky owner, just claim P2 and shoot email to via perodua website. I sent 3 email, they call me 3 times and I question them why P2 charge me for sound proof to be install for 4 doors as it was min. requirement for manufacturer to install it before the car delivered. P2 speechless and start talking alien words.

Money was major issues. Perodua Alza was economically compact mpv in terms of price and costs of ownership w/minimal running cost.

We need money pay other stuff such as house, children, parents and daily expenses; really not all people can use their wages to enjoy the fun of cars and yet cars was 100% depreciate asset than houses.

You afford, you buy can choose expensive and better one. Not afford, get the one can serve your daily purpose. No choice.

May I know this is what type of engine?
1NZ-FE was full aluminium engine where
Passo sette engine? Or Boon Luminas engine?
The link here : http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/lineup/boon_luminas/index.htm
Only my iPhone do not support flash and can't open to check the detail.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 12 2011, 01:20 PM

1 point you failed to raise... I think Perodua with the Alza model, they're beginning to neglect safety issue...

Engine Code: 1NZ-FE (Used in Toyota models only!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_NZ_engine


Engine Code: 3SZ-VE w/Toyota VVT-i and Daihatsu DVVT
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Toyota Passo Sette / Daihatsu Boon Luminas / Perodua Alza
Toyota Rush / Perodua Nautica / Daihatsu Terios / Toyota Bego
Toyota Avanza
Toyota bB
Daihatsu Materia / Coo
Daihatsu Boon / Perodua Myvi SE
Daihatsu Luxio
Daihatsu Gran Max All Series Pickup / Van (You can saw it was running around Malaysia)
http://www.daihatsu.com.my/html/vehicles_panelvan.html

3SZ-VE, DOHC EFI 16V DVVT, Timing Chain
Capacity = 1.5L, 1495 cc
Bore = 72 mm
Stroke is 91.8 mm
Compression ratio = 10.0:1
Output = Max 80 kW (109 PS), 6000 rpm
Alza and Myvi detuned to 104ps
Torque = 141 Nm, 4400 rpm.
Featuring VVT-i / DVVT

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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:03 pmAgreed with you, local excised tax and cost of built material was an issues. Everything seem to be alright will increase the cost, you can found this from new perodua myvi se/extreme 1.5, that's why selling at the price can get perodua alza... because material used was better than alza.

But Perodua never well-known for safety and chassis toughness, Proton performed very good job in chassis and handling over perodua but reliability and fuel comsuption you can't denied perodua is better.

You choose which one? Your decision indeed! Depends to what your own judgement and point of view.

I choose over perodua alza over proton exora

PRICE (Compact MPV and cheaper than Exora leh)
RELIABILITY w/minimal defect (Excluded chassis toughness and sound proof)
MORE ON TOWN USAGE (I never treat it like Toyota Wish cause it definitely cannot race)
HANDLING (Please look for sedan, MPV never met handling expectation)
FUEL CONSUMPTION (Consider better than others mid sized MPV such as Exora, Citra, Innova and Avanza)

Campro engine not steady. IAFM seem like wear and tear stuff and need to be replace after certain mileage. Campro CPS required VIM to run with and somemore campro tend to be not good to use in town due to the engine characteristic

Currently, Proton is planning to develop a new engine known as the code name "Family Y engine" with option of displacement between 1.2l, 1.5l, and 1.8l all in the variant of either natural aspirated or in force induction type.

The existing Campro engines which are limited to 1.3L and 1.6L engine options only will be EOL (End of Life) soon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro

Proton really treat the owner like white mouse and experiment. They invent so call new model and market them for testing and tend to phase out the model simply.

Proton Tiara, Proton Juara, Proton Savvy, Proton Waja 1.8 was the very truth example.

This post has been edited by pciericagp: Oct 12 2011, 05:03 PM

Toyota 1NZ-FE that used in all Toyota Vios 1.5 around the globe


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3SZ-VE by toyota+daihatsu that used in Perodua Alza / Myvi




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Guys,

any of you here install VS + Grounding cable??

Where you connect to ? The grounding point .

Obvious different between 1NZ-FE and 3SZ-VE

- Lightweight, thermoplastic intake manifold
- Air filter
- Cylinder head
- Plastics and Hoses
- Engine components arrangement

You can ask people who know about car, ask them which picture of engine was nice to see.

This post has been edited by pciericagp: Oct 12 2011, 05:37 PM