I can imagine your throttle response is pretty powerful. I can do 420+km with 66 bucks, but that's with my car always feeling underpowered. Also around 80% city driving, going up to 80-90 kph whenever I get the chance.

Pushing 120-130 kph on highway is hard, feels like the engine wanna explode, I wonder how some ppl can manage 160kph on an Alza...

Push with 3rd gear, then down steep slope shift to 4th gear, push suicidal mode ON = 160kph!! Do it with a manual transmission for more fun.

To get 405km, I'm driving really slow. Oh, mine is auto by the way. Not enjoyable at all. RM66 / RM1.90 means I pumped 34.7 liter. So still have less than 10 liter inside. Therefore, probably best guess is with full tank I can do around 460-490km, before I get kosong inside.

Because the tangki is 42 liter, which is RM79.80 full. But to do this, I have taken the fun out of driving. Perhaps this is my long distance drive target. To achieve as close as possible to 500km with full tank... maybe drive from KL to Johor early in the morning, something like that.

So city drive, perhaps a reasonable target is 380-400km, by putting in some fun back into driving. I don't want to follow behind uncle auntie's car.

Here's an updated list of problems plaguing my car:

1 Wind sound in excess of 70kph = Problem recurs

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close = Problem recurs

3 Engine noisy inside cabin when speed in excess of 110kph = No solution provided, sound proofing issue

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road = Resolved

5 Roof noisy when rains = Resolved but not satisfactory

6 Soft horn sound = No solution provided

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion = Resolved

8 a) Gear shift from 3rd to 4th gear not smooth = Problem recurs
b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car = Resolved

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle = No solution provided, problem not present upon testing

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened = Resolved

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar = Problem recurs. Fixed outside

12 Rattling sound on dashboard = Problem recurs

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads = Resolved

14 Bluetooth not working = Resolved

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking = Problem recurs

16 Dirty front rims (possibly caused by low-grade brake pads) = No solution provided, lousy brake pads

17 Noisy tyres = No solution provided, supplier sucks

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on = Resolved

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough = Not solved. Cabin still not as cool as before

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range = Problem recurs

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2" = No solution provided, common problem

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly = Resolved

23 External door handles too stiff = Resolved

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides = New problem from Service Center

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat = New problem (reported and awaiting solution)

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running = New problem (reported and awaiting solution)

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning = New problem (reported and awaiting solution)

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers = New problem (reported and awaiting solution)

29 Loud burst sound, kinda like farting or sneezing sound when turned on air-cond. Happens when the car strolls for about 2 minutes from a minute-long engine warm up with fan running at level 2 low cooling factor. Can feel the car vibrates with the burst sound = New problem (So far only 2 instances - reported and awaiting solution)

30 Loose black cover on trunk door causing rattling sound = Solved via DIY

31 Jerky motion during acceleration, possibly another round of gear problem = New problem as of 3/10/2001

wow .... i think many ppl will not complaint much after compare with your case.

any consumer law can get P2 to change a brand new car for u ??

Exora is coming with Turbo Boost soon and probably in 2013, electric hybrid version.

until today, did not hear any facelift nor next version of alza also..sigh, quite disappointed

2013 is still a long way, I bet Perodua have something for Alza up their sleeves, but don't expect major changes under the hood... Perodua's definition of facelift has always been superficial... Remember that Perodua has always been a car assembler, they're not exactly into R&D...

true on what you say...i wonder if they gonna adopt the prius hybrid inside

anyhow, exora turbo boost coming end of the year alridi..i believe that will give a big competition compare to the current alza, especially if alza doesnt improve all these existing problems

I really dont think it worth a cent to buy a car and been plaque by all this problems. Be it a 60k car. I dont wanna spend time at sc to report complaints day in and day out. ALZA - off my list (no hope for malaysia car for me..)

Another update from me:

1 Wind noise > 80km/h
= Acceptable, never expect Perodua NVH better than others

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close
= It was stick to the car, screwed it will be better

3 Engine noisy inside cabin > 110km/h
= Acceptable, better than proton wira

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road
= Alignment can be done outside to fix it. Use conventional ruler rather than computerised alignment.

5 Roof noisy when rain
= For those car before 2011, you need to report it to P2, it will be better after sound proof material

6 Soft horn sound
= I got no issue, but you can change it to hella horn

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion
= NIL

8a) Gear shift, 3rd to 4th, not smooth
= NIL

8b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car
= NIL

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle
= Engine characteristics, noise minimal, accepetable

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened
= Door ajar sensor, front left and right, their parts got defect

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar
= Yup, I also got

12 Rattling sound on dashboard
= Yup, I also got, don't ask them dismantle it and assemble it back, no point cause will be the same or worst.
This caused by tooling, their original cast for dashboard not good, all using plastics, snapped in, not screwed.
You will noticed major different, especially day and night. Day more noise cause hot, night less noise cause cold.

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads
= Yup, I also got

14 Bluetooth not working
= I didn't use before, not useful for me temp.

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking
= Mine ok, got engine braking

16 Dirty front rims
= Is brake pads dust, cause by original P2 LUCAS brake pads. You can change others if you don't like

17 Noisy tyres
= Acceptable, cannot compare with good one

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on
= I didn't notice but Where is it?

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough
= Acceptable, my fan blower strong and I got full car tinted

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range
= Not sure about this

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2"
= My switch working fine

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly
= Mine ok

23 External door handles too stiff
= Mine ok

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides
= Cause by those f!@# who scratch my car

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat
= A bit, sometime got sometime don't have

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running
= NIL

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning
= Didn't notice, need to test

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers
= Previously got, now ok

29 Loose black cover on trunk door causing rattling sound
= Yeah, a bit, can fix DIY

31 Jerky motion during acceleration, possibly another round of gear problem
= NIL

Mine was auto premium, year 2010, mileage 30,102km, average fc = RM 0.15 / km (Esso/Petrons, light foot, tighten throttle cable already). I'm kind of understand your issues and dissatisfaction, our local parts not so reliable if compare to japanese or korean. If I'm not mistaken, this whole car was truly made in malaysia, sometime no luck really will get problematic one.

This post has been edited by pciericagp: Oct 5 2011, 10:54 AM

Add me to the list:

1 Wind noise > 80km/h
= Acceptable, never expect Perodua NVH better than others
== Agree

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close
= It was stick to the car, screwed it will be better
== Don't have noise

3 Engine noisy inside cabin > 110km/h
= Acceptable, better than proton wira
== Better than waja

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road
= Alignment can be done outside to fix it. Use conventional ruler rather than computerised alignment.
== I once had a car that didn't pass puspakom 3 times, and finally a sifu in Klang, old shop, help use ruler. gaotim in 10 min and later pass puspakom's test. Computer? Throw into river la.

5 Roof noisy when rain
= For those car before 2011, you need to report it to P2, it will be better after sound proof material
== It rained this afternoon, ok mar...

6 Soft horn sound
= I got no issue, but you can change it to hella horn
== This was the first thing I wanted to do, but the cheapest quote I got was RM350, cause need add amplifier lar, no enough power wo. Betul ker?

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion
= NIL
== NIL

8a) Gear shift, 3rd to 4th, not smooth
= NIL
== NIL

8b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car
= NIL
== NIL

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle
= Engine characteristics, noise minimal, accepetable
== Don't have

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened
= Door ajar sensor, front left and right, their parts got defect
== NIL

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar
= Yup, I also got
== NIL

12 Rattling sound on dashboard
= Yup, I also got, don't ask them dismantle it and assemble it back, no point cause will be the same or worst.
This caused by tooling, their original cast for dashboard not good, all using plastics, snapped in, not screwed.
You will noticed major different, especially day and night. Day more noise cause hot, night less noise cause cold.
== NIL

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads
= Yup, I also got
== NIL

14 Bluetooth not working
= I didn't use before, not useful for me temp.
== NIL

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking
= Mine ok, got engine braking
== NIL

16 Dirty front rims
= Is brake pads dust, cause by original P2 LUCAS brake pads. You can change others if you don't like
== Clean them every week

17 Noisy tyres
= Acceptable, cannot compare with good one
== I must find the budget to change this, not acceptable but it is silverstone.

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on
= I didn't notice but Where is it?
== NIL

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough
= Acceptable, my fan blower strong and I got full car tinted
== Ya, acceptable, cools down quite fast, but no one sits on the 3rd row, so my comment is until 2nd row.

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range
= Not sure about this
== NIL

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2"
= My switch working fine
== NIL

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly
= Mine ok
== NIL

23 External door handles too stiff
= Mine ok
== NIL

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides
= Cause by those f!@# who scratch my car
== No comment

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat
= A bit, sometime got sometime don't have
== Don't have

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running
= NIL
== I don't even understand

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning
= Didn't notice, need to test
== Don't have

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers
= Previously got, now ok
== NIL

29 Loose black cover on trunk door causing rattling sound
= Yeah, a bit, can fix DIY
== Mine is alright

31 Jerky motion during acceleration, possibly another round of gear problem
= NIL
== After service today, I kinda feel there is something wrong some where.... but the driving distance back home is short, will listen carefully when I go out later

Mine was auto premium, year 2010, mileage 30,102km, average fc = RM 0.15 / km (Esso/Petrons, light foot, tighten throttle cable already). I'm kind of understand your issues and dissatisfaction, our local parts not so reliable if compare to japanese or korean. If I'm not mistaken, this whole car was truly made in malaysia, sometime no luck really will get problematic one.

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== You should check his plate number. But wow, RM0.15. Best I ever heard. Can show a pic of your tighten throttle cable?

This post has been edited by n8210: Oct 5 2011, 05:01 PM

There you go... Try some of those methods to see if you are plagued with some of my problems...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Oct 5 2011, 08:28 PM

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road
= Alignment can be done outside to fix it. Use conventional ruler rather than computerised alignment.
== I once had a car that didn't pass puspakom 3 times, and finally a sifu in Klang, old shop, help use ruler. gaotim in 10 min and later pass puspakom's test. Computer? Throw into river la.
+++ Can recommend me the sifu...? I wanna do alignment after tukar donut...

It is near the Klang puspakom besides fed hghway. I don't r'ber which shop but sure know which one if I am there. No shop names, sorry.
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6 Soft horn sound
= I got no issue, but you can change it to hella horn
== This was the first thing I wanted to do, but the cheapest quote I got was RM350, cause need add amplifier lar, no enough power wo. Betul ker?
+++ I tukar one for RM 120... Not too loud, but better than that chicken shit Perodua horn...

Just change the horn, or did you add anything else? Any brand?

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17 Noisy tyres
= Acceptable, cannot compare with good one
== I must find the budget to change this, not acceptable but it is silverstone.
+++ So bila mau tukar donut, kita gi sama k...?

These few months very soi... earn no money. Lots going out. Imagine if someone "bom" you with wedding invitations... aduh... sakitnya.

Ah Hee Tyre Service Sdn. Bhd.

Address : 21, Jalan 4/92B Taman Kobena, 56000 Cheras, Selangor, Malaysia
Phone : 03-9200 3655 Fax : 03-9200 7866

You better ask service centre to adjust the throttle cable for you rather you do it yourself.

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Added on October 6, 2011, 2:44 pmPerodua Alza 1.5 all series, the following spark plugs work w/3SZ-VE

DENSO SXU22PR9
DENSO IRIDIUM POWER IXU22
DENSO IRIDIUM TOUGH VXU22
NGK Iridium IKR7D


This post has been edited by pciericagp: Oct 6 2011, 02:44 PM


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Tried before, adjustment by Perodua SC no improvement one...

Main-main no harm

I adjusted to max, not sure about you but mine got different after adjusted.

I'm getting that stupid jerky acceleration again. Either Perodua f***ers screwed up on the throttle cable adjustment, or they gave me some Denso Iridium duds....

just finish the MAOC DIY fire protection sound proof today ..

... wa lao we .. tired now. but worth it

now you have a quiet cabin...?