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 ::: ART ATTACK V3 :::, all about handmade ART :D

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post Feb 14 2012, 07:00 PM

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post Feb 14 2012, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Feb 14 2012, 02:58 PM)
Using mouse to draw sounds scary T____T
Anyway, any idea how a noob should start? laugh.gif
I've read through some of the links shared here... I think that most of them are too advanced for my "level"  sad.gif
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Well firstly you need to acquire the software (there are many varieties out there, ranging from expensive stuff like Photoshop to free-of-charge software like GIMP), and then learn how your particular choice of drawing software works, and after that you decide if you want to paint using the mouse or using the tablet. (continued below, related to Adam's post)

QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Feb 14 2012, 03:11 PM)
using tablet is easier than using mouse.
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The tablet is easier, sure, and faster, and makes it easier to give a "painterly" look. Not that tablets prevent you from creating realistic stuff, like what Da LuVisi does:

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(yes, that IS hand painted)

... but getting a tablet requires you to put in an extra several-hundred ringgit into what is admittedly a highly-specialised tool that you won't be using much outside of drawing (unlike having a mouse, which you would already need for a PC anyway).

The advantage of a mouse is that it already comes bundled with your PC tongue.gif and decent mice rarely cost more than a hundred ringgit. However, using the mouse tends to create works that look very CG, very obviously "made by the computer", and often requires very time-consuming methods (paths, vector layers, masking etc) to get good results. Mario Wibisono creates some VERY stunning work through mouse only in Photoshop, taking at least 60 hours to complete a painting. Some of you may have heard of Vocaloid; he's the guy who created the CG version of Vocaloid Sonika biggrin.gif

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He has a tutorial here: (http://raynkazuya.deviantart.com/art/MVP-T...pter-1-47016582) that details how to "paint" using the mouse in Photoshop.

Ultimately, it really depends on your preferences, although I'll advice you to invest in a tablet if you do intend to pursue digital painting semi-seriously, if only to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome from using the mouse. I personally spend at least 2-4 hours every weekday night in Photoshop, and about 5-6 hours for weekends (because I have no life tongue.gif ), and before I got my tablet I had serious wrist issues from using a mouse.


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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 14 2012, 08:11 PM)
Well firstly you need to acquire the software (there are many varieties out there, ranging from expensive stuff like Photoshop to free-of-charge software like GIMP), and then learn how your particular choice of drawing software works, and after that you decide if you want to paint using the mouse or using the tablet. (continued below, related to Adam's post)
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Many thanks for the reply notworthy.gif
Appreciate it!!!
OMG, those pros are really pro thumbup.gif
And seems like using a mouse to draw and paint can be quite time consuming and hard... but I guess I'll give it a try anyway haha~ (How do you guys know how to "paint" after digitalizing the hand-drawn picture? Sounds pretty hard to me lol)

As for a tablet, any tablet will do? (wait, the tablet's you guys are referring to here are those drawing tablets right?) hmm.gif

Thanks in advance for the reply!!
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:49 AM

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Using mouse to draw is not so advisable. Using mouse to colour is achievable but takes very long time as mentioned. I guess you get better when you practice painting often (then again, what doesn't?). That's why a lot of artists go for speedpaint. It's a form of practice for them.

Yeah, drawing tablets. Any tablet should do I guess. I would suggest you to get yourself a Wacom tablet. The smallest model will do good. It's around RM350-400 I think. smile.gif
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The painting is the same as traditional painting, TJ. It's just that digital painting is both always dry and never dry (i.e. you can change as you go, being flexible, and you don't have to wait hours/days/weeks for the "paint" to dry before you put down a new "layer"), and you can change your brush size/shape/texture on the fly.

This video here (http://youtu.be/Imd_tTl5WSg) is pretty similar to how I personally work, although my personal sketches tend to be more precise as seen here: http://dragonreine.deviantart.com/art/WIP-...sited-217469414

And here's a VERY informative blog that talks about the sort of peripherals/tablets that are out there on the market, their costs, and which is best for your personal skill level and/or budget: http://enliighten.com/blog/tools-of-the-tr...-peripherals-3/

(enliighten.com is a good site, btw, created by a very experienced digital artist, and he covers a lot of basics in that site, with useful video tutorials)

Also, I found the ImagineFX channel again (whee!) and there's a series of videos that shows how Mario Wibisono (the guy who paints with mouse) works on one of the covers (Part one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_wOjcg1Te0), and this is the video that inspired my "Wolf's Rain" painting, by Melanie Delon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26j9iNeRL0

Note that my style (pencil sketch, semi-transparent layers of paint on top) is closer to the "traditional" way of working with paint than the other artists I'd featured here.

EDIT: Also, what vypur just said wink.gif Here's a Wacom price list: http://www.wacom.asia/my/products-price

The cheapest model you can use for digital painting would be the Bamboo Pen, which costs RM299. If you can go to Lowyat Plaza in KL, you can check out the smaller shops and haggle for a lower price on that model smile.gif

That said, if you're going to invest in a tablet, buy the best that you can afford. smile.gif

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QUOTE(vypur85 @ Feb 15 2012, 12:49 AM)
Using mouse to draw is not so advisable. Using mouse to colour is achievable but takes very long time as mentioned. I guess you get better when you practice painting often (then again, what doesn't?). That's why a lot of artists go for speedpaint. It's a form of practice for them.

Yeah, drawing tablets. Any tablet should do I guess. I would suggest you to get yourself a Wacom tablet. The smallest model will do good. It's around RM350-400 I think. smile.gif
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 15 2012, 12:56 AM)
The painting is the same as traditional painting, TJ. It's just that digital painting is both always dry and never dry (i.e. you can change as you go, being flexible, and you don't have to wait hours/days/weeks for the "paint" to dry before you put down a new "layer"), and you can change your brush size/shape/texture on the fly.

This video here (http://youtu.be/Imd_tTl5WSg) is pretty similar to how I personally work, although my personal sketches tend to be more precise as seen here: http://dragonreine.deviantart.com/art/WIP-...sited-217469414

And here's a VERY informative blog that talks about the sort of peripherals/tablets that are out there on the market, their costs, and which is best for your personal skill level and/or budget: http://enliighten.com/blog/tools-of-the-tr...-peripherals-3/

(enliighten.com is a good site, btw, created by a very experienced digital artist, and he covers a lot of basics in that site, with useful video tutorials)

Also, I found the ImagineFX channel again (whee!) and there's a series of videos that shows how Mario Wibisono (the guy who paints with mouse) works on one of the covers (Part one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_wOjcg1Te0), and this is the video that inspired my "Wolf's Rain" painting, by Melanie Delon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26j9iNeRL0

Note that my style (pencil sketch, semi-transparent layers of paint on top) is closer to the "traditional" way of working with paint than the other artists I'd featured here.

EDIT: Also, what vypur just said wink.gif Here's a Wacom price list: http://www.wacom.asia/my/products-price

The cheapest model you can use for digital painting would be the Bamboo Pen, which costs RM299. If you can go to Lowyat Plaza in KL, you can check out the smaller shops and haggle for a lower price on that model smile.gif

That said, if you're going to invest in a tablet, buy the best that you can afford. smile.gif
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Many thanks guys!! You guys are poisoning me haha rclxm9.gif
@DragonReine, I'll look through all your tutorials links 1st, and maybe try abit of mouse painting 1st before actually deciding whether to get a tablet laugh.gif

Thanks again ya~ Really appreciate it!!
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 15 2012, 12:56 AM)
The painting is the same as traditional painting, TJ. It's just that digital painting is both always dry and never dry (i.e. you can change as you go, being flexible, and you don't have to wait hours/days/weeks for the "paint" to dry before you put down a new "layer"), and you can change your brush size/shape/texture on the fly.

This video here (http://youtu.be/Imd_tTl5WSg) is pretty similar to how I personally work, although my personal sketches tend to be more precise as seen here: http://dragonreine.deviantart.com/art/WIP-...sited-217469414

And here's a VERY informative blog that talks about the sort of peripherals/tablets that are out there on the market, their costs, and which is best for your personal skill level and/or budget: http://enliighten.com/blog/tools-of-the-tr...-peripherals-3/

(enliighten.com is a good site, btw, created by a very experienced digital artist, and he covers a lot of basics in that site, with useful video tutorials)

Also, I found the ImagineFX channel again (whee!) and there's a series of videos that shows how Mario Wibisono (the guy who paints with mouse) works on one of the covers (Part one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_wOjcg1Te0), and this is the video that inspired my "Wolf's Rain" painting, by Melanie Delon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26j9iNeRL0

Note that my style (pencil sketch, semi-transparent layers of paint on top) is closer to the "traditional" way of working with paint than the other artists I'd featured here.

EDIT: Also, what vypur just said wink.gif Here's a Wacom price list: http://www.wacom.asia/my/products-price

The cheapest model you can use for digital painting would be the Bamboo Pen, which costs RM299. If you can go to Lowyat Plaza in KL, you can check out the smaller shops and haggle for a lower price on that model smile.gif

That said, if you're going to invest in a tablet, buy the best that you can afford. smile.gif
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that a very kind of you to share it... smile.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(pf-L33 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:09 PM)
StarCraft II

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hehe..nicee.. rclxms.gif
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my colleague did this....

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i think used 1 year for this shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:16 PM)
my colleague did this....

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i think used 1 year for this  shocking.gif
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yeah the stalker was actually a test-build b4 going for that one. am testing out another few models and paper types b4 starting work on the real deal. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pf-L33 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:26 PM)
yeah the stalker was actually a test-build b4 going for that one. am testing out another few models and paper types b4 starting work on the real deal. tongue.gif
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actually he bought those paper pack from china lol i also got one gundam hazel SD versiion but i m lazy to assemble it.
he said go printing on himself he rather buy from china lol...although we both know it is free download from website
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:32 PM)
actually he bought those paper pack from china lol i also got one gundam hazel SD versiion but i m lazy to assemble it.
he said go printing on himself he rather buy from china lol...although we both know it is free download from website
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those paper pack from china ahh.. saw them too. a bit pricey lehh. if i print at the print shops i frequently visit... the gauss rifle will cost about rm30 i think. could be cheaper if i print them on my own or bring my own paper to the shop
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QUOTE(pf-L33 @ Feb 16 2012, 04:01 PM)
those paper pack from china ahh.. saw them too. a bit pricey lehh. if i print at the print shops i frequently visit... the gauss rifle will cost about rm30 i think. could be cheaper if i print them on my own or bring my own paper to the shop
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but paper need to be high quality or already is a card board level kind of thick paper...
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2012, 04:17 PM)
but paper need to be high quality or already is a card board level kind of thick paper...
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yeah.. thats rite. i'm experimenting with 150gsm now.. but it responds badly to my home inkjet prints.. maybe it'll be better if its laser-printed

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edit:pemilik thread kata out of topic,saya pun tak tahu kenapa.

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QUOTE(pf-L33 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:09 PM)
StarCraft II

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very nice

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Feb 16 2012, 10:18 PM)
minecraft madness.
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err minecraft is way off off topic...... unsure.gif sweat.gif


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wow uve come back.

well I thought that's an art,I build it.
it's a design.
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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ Feb 16 2012, 11:05 PM)
wow uve come back.

well I thought that's an art,I build it.
it's a design.
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minecraft is more like a game instead of art processing software...if like that i also can custom a car and custom a decal in need for speed series and claim this is my work? unsure.gif
well minecraft showcase should have in minecraft section in this forum right?

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