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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Liverpool 2 -1 Wolves : LS7 scored again

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post Sep 10 2011, 12:31 AM

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post Sep 10 2011, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 9 2011, 01:51 PM)
Browsing through threads and I'm reminded once again why I was never ever going to be a manc. Not in my nature to gloat and adopt a "we are the greatest and the rest are shite" mentality. Humility and greatness are not mutually exclusive in my books.
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for me it come down to some of our fans really..remember the banner " come back when u won 18th ".So when they really did won the 18th and 19th of course they will come and troll.that's just natural.

its down to the fans mentality.Some are good and some are just "di*ks" and both side have the equal amount of those fans smile.gif

just my 2 cent.Sorry for my bad grammar sweat.gif

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post Sep 10 2011, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Sep 10 2011, 02:34 AM)
for me it come down to some of our fans really..remember the banner " come back when u won 18th ".So when they really did won the 18th and 19th of course they will come and troll.that's just natural.

its down to the fans mentality.Some are good and some are just "di*ks" and both side have the equal amount of those fans smile.gif

just my 2 cent.Sorry for my bad grammar  sweat.gif
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It's the rivalry facts and i believe there's nothing to do with the banner or sort?
Could anyone spot on with the one claimed above? "Come back when you win the 18th"?
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post Sep 10 2011, 03:40 AM

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gutted to see AC Milan performances , Aquilani just provided 2 assists in first 45 minutes

video here

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=191482157590082

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=191480017590296

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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Sep 10 2011, 02:34 AM)
for me it come down to some of our fans really..remember the banner " come back when u won 18th ".So when they really did won the 18th and 19th of course they will come and troll.that's just natural.

its down to the fans mentality.Some are good and some are just "di*ks" and both side have the equal amount of those fans smile.gif

just my 2 cent.Sorry for my bad grammar  sweat.gif
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Yup, 100% agreed.

QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Sep 10 2011, 03:19 AM)
It's the rivalry facts and i believe there's nothing to do with the banner or sort?
Could anyone spot on with the one claimed above? "Come back when you win the 18th"?
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That banner was put out in 1994.

http://viewfromtier3.blogspot.com/2009/10/...when-youve.html

Edited: Moral of the story, don't judge a certain set of fans just because their team is at the top at the moment. No one is immune to ARROGANCE when their team is at the top of the game. The difference is that there are no internet in the 70's and 80's.

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post Sep 10 2011, 11:04 AM

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but its the man utd fans(and anythg related, threads, friends(clueless)) that are bad. Duke sure does like them high places.
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post Sep 10 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Sep 9 2011, 10:26 PM)
The lads should be able to overcome "giant" Stoke players. Wish to see Bellamy at some point of time.
Coates as well, hope he starts. Should we get a killer 2 goals cushion tomorrow, the game is in our hands.

A win would be sweet before the mighty captain returns the following week.
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Starting Carroll would be playing right into their hands. The shortest dude they have at the back is Jonathan Woodgate and he's 6 foot tall. What the hell is Robert Huth doing at rightback? Not the most adventurous of fullbacks. We'll be faced with a defensive wall and if the recent past is anything to go by, we'll struggle to break them down. Then again, we do now have a little pocket miracle in Luis Suarez.

QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Sep 10 2011, 02:34 AM)
for me it come down to some of our fans really..remember the banner " come back when u won 18th ".So when they really did won the 18th and 19th of course they will come and troll.that's just natural.

its down to the fans mentality.Some are good and some are just "di*ks" and both side have the equal amount of those fans smile.gif

just my 2 cent.Sorry for my bad grammar  sweat.gif
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I pay no attention to trollers. I'm more interested in engaging fans who have sense, a little knowledge and can put forth a proper argument. For those that can't, it's an annoyance akin to having fly's hover around your face. Like I said, it's the gloating I cannot take. My manc friends who have been friends for years don't gloat as much. It's the newer bandwagon jumpers who support the team because they are winning. Just reading one liners like "we are the best", "our third team can take on half the Premiership sides", makes me sick. Arrogance is best sold with a touch of humour, tongue in cheek. Pity this lot have zero humour and are just plain, arrogant.


Added on September 10, 2011, 11:28 am
QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 10 2011, 11:04 AM)
but its the man utd fans(and anythg related, threads, friends(clueless)) that are bad. Duke sure does like them high places.
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Sure, generalise my comment. Yes, I do think I know a great deal more than a fair number of fans. Never denied it.

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QUOTE(leaF @ Sep 10 2011, 03:40 AM)
gutted to see AC Milan performances , Aquilani just provided 2 assists in first 45 minutes

video here

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=191482157590082

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=191480017590296
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Nice to see him settle in well at Milan. Let's hope his performance will bring up his value.
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post Sep 10 2011, 11:56 AM

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Funny how those lot love this thread so much.
Tot its always their motto that one can say whatever they like in one's thread whistling.gif
oh wait, think its applicable to them only, others cant say a speckle bad about them wink.gif
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post Sep 10 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 10 2011, 11:37 AM)
Funny should you say that, you might want to check on your 'kins' about that bolded part as well. Like, how we have the best midfield. Or how the partnership of Suarez and Carroll is the ultimate, bla bla bla.

Want me to post one DELUDED article?

http://live4liverpool.com/2011/08/view-fro...etter-than-us/2

How Suarez fare better than Hernandez, I don't know. What do you call them Duke? Annoying bunch?

It's pot calling kettle black. There are bad bunch from any side of fans. Just live with it. Don't put yourself as mighty and high as you think.
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If you read what I said, you'll note that I mentioned arrogance is something I personally do not subscribe to. If you want to big yourself up all the time, that's your prerogative but I don't have to agree.

As for your second point that we have fans who post random one liners as well, I agree. Again, you'll note that I argue with them as well. Also, I stress time and time again the importance of reading up about the club so that when you make a claim, you have some credibility. No, I'm not biased against mancs alone, I'm biased against less than informed fans in general who try to pick a fight and it's my right to do so. I don't have to conform to society and sugar coat every thought for people who can't handle the truth. I've met some really dedicated fans who I aspire to be like but I've also met some who don't aspire to be any better. Yes, everyone likes to gloat every now and then but when you see a full page telling everyone how big your pecker is compared to everyone else, you can't help but take notice.

Lastly if I'm to be technical, saying my midfield is the best is hardly the same as saying my team pawns yours. Being confident in your own ability is not the same as telling someone you're better than them.


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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 10 2011, 11:56 AM)
Funny how those lot love this thread so much.
Tot its always their motto that one can say whatever they like in one's thread whistling.gif
oh wait, think its applicable to them only, others cant say a speckle bad about them  wink.gif
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I personally don't care what anyone wants to say in other threads. Why pretend to be nice and use politically correct words? It isn't so much what you say rather than how you deal with what people say to you.

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 10 2011, 11:37 AM)
Funny should you say that, you might want to check on your 'kins' about that bolded part as well. Like, how we have the best midfield. Or how the partnership of Suarez and Carroll is the ultimate, bla bla bla.

Want me to post one DELUDED article?

http://live4liverpool.com/2011/08/view-fro...etter-than-us/2

How Suarez fare better than Hernandez, I don't know. What do you call them Duke? Annoying bunch?

It's pot calling kettle black. There are bad bunch from any side of fans. Just live with it. Don't put yourself as mighty and high as you think.
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Your club fans did just that. funny ehh... laugh.gif
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Why not start both Carroll and Suarez? I think this combination should be given more games to flourish. Bellamy could come on with 20minutes remaining (when all their giant defenders has gotten tired) to run at their defenders.

Only games can help Andy regain his confidence to get on the score sheets regularly. And this doesnt come by warming the bench.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 10 2011, 12:04 PM)
If you read what I said, you'll note that I mentioned arrogance is something I personally do not subscribe to. If you want to big yourself up all the time, that's your prerogative but I don't have to agree. 

As for your second point that we have fans who post random one liners as well, I agree. Again, you'll note that I argue with them as well. Also, I stress time and time again the importance of reading up about the club so that when you make a claim, you have some credibility. No, I'm not biased against mancs alone, I'm biased against less than informed fans in general who try to pick a fight and it's my right to do so. I don't have to conform to society and sugar coat every thought for people who can't handle the truth. I've met some really dedicated fans who I aspire to be like but I've also met some who don't aspire to be any better. Yes, everyone likes to gloat every now and then but when you see a full page telling everyone how big your pecker is compared to everyone else, you can't help but take notice.

Lastly if I'm to be technical, saying my midfield is the best is hardly the same as saying my team pawns yours. Being confident in your own ability is not the same as telling someone you're better than them.
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Confidence is good but over-analyse or in simpler terms bigging up yourself is more precise, I'd say. In this case, I would say that article and some of your lots are practically much the same annoying bunch.

I would still say United's midfield is no good/better than Arsenal's(when they had Fabregas and Nasri).

There's confidence and there's talking shit. Until it is proven, well, that's when you can gloat around. Otherwise, it's better to mum things to yourselves. Simple, really.


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QUOTE(SquaLL_JB @ Sep 10 2011, 12:09 PM)
Your club fans did just that. funny ehh... laugh.gif
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I do acknowledge that there are BAD bunch of fans. Didn't you read my lines carefully? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 10 2011, 12:11 PM)
Confidence is good but over-analyse or in simpler terms bigging up yourself is more precise, I'd say. In this case, I would say that article and some of your lots are practically much the same annoying bunch.

I would still say United's midfield is no good/better than Arsenal's(when they had Fabregas and Nasri).

There's confidence and there's talking shit. Until it is proven, well, that's when you can gloat around. Otherwise, it's better to mum things to yourselves. Simple, really.
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I personally do not believe in gloating even if you beat someone. Like I said in a previous post, the only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Do Liverpool fans also gloat? Yes but it doesn't mean I agree with them. i don't think anyone would disagree when I say I've never ever posted claiming that we are the best. Even when I big up Liverpool fans, it's those whose stories I read about who I admire. I don't claim to be the best because I know I'm not the best.

Before you continue to go thinking I'm being biased do note that in the past I've chastised our own fans for claiming to be "the best fans in the world", I've criticised our own for nonsensical one-liners and I keep telling everyone to refrain from gloating about a win over a rival on their thread. I'm sure I'm not well liked by everyone in our own thread either but the thing is, I don't care. I call it like I see it and if they can't handle it, that's their problem, not mine.

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Whoa, you so free ah? Got a lot of time to troll? How's life? Thanks for taking so much interest in our thread! God bless.. Peace..
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 10 2011, 12:11 PM)
Confidence is good but over-analyse or in simpler terms bigging up yourself is more precise, I'd say. In this case, I would say that article and some of your lots are practically much the same annoying bunch.

I would still say United's midfield is no good/better than Arsenal's(when they had Fabregas and Nasri).

There's confidence and there's talking shit. Until it is proven, well, that's when you can gloat around. Otherwise, it's better to mum things to yourselves. Simple, really.
And its even simpler for you to stop posting in this thread.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Sep 10 2011, 12:19 PM)
Whoa, you so free ah? Got a lot of time to troll? How's life? Thanks for taking so much interest in our thread! God bless.. Peace..
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He isn't trolling. At least he's articulating his thoughts. Nothing wrong with a little banter/discussion. We talk about not being welcomed on other threads so let's be more hospitable shall we?
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Yeah, I know. Just messing with him a bit. Good to see a rival football fans put in so much effort to dig up information about rival clubs and put together a good debate just to emphize who's team is better. Really a good fan! Congratulations! You have truly achieved something amazing in life! I hope you get an award for being a good and loyal football fan;-)
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they in the "happy mode" after they trash the unstable club at this moment.
let them be.
their 3rd squad can beat half of the EPL teams?then we already know who will win EPL this season.


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QUOTE(tgmape @ Sep 10 2011, 12:46 PM)
they in the "happy mode" after they trash the unstable club at this moment.
let them be.
their 3rd squad can beat half of the EPL teams?then we already know who will win EPL this season.
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In truth, they probably will. The fact that they fielded a team whose average age was 23, and they beat a "top four side" proves that they will be a dominant force for years to come unfortunately. However, this just means that we have to be better and we're heading in the right direction off and on the field.

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