get me a job and i will cheers with you 24/7

you mean in IT field? yes, i am in the IT field now but i thought IT is no longer in demand?

i guess that's what you are doing it right now?

cool.i can have this to be considered. i guess i can leave the company after 2 years of working there with the PR

seemed ok over the phone

you will see this a lot in Australia... the people manning IELTS, vetassess, post office are all migrants...

so are the migrants hating on future migrants?
wow, too good to be true? living costs?!

3 years for IT PR because no Australian study points?

and that's if the employer want to go for ENS after 457

so basically i have to look for offshore job in australia?

I see, sounds like a dorm. But you say "city" like it's a dense metropolis.

Wow, band 5.

I see, no idea about 186. Myself I'm probably gonna go 485 and then 189. Already have the all 8 IELTS but unfortunately did not study Accounting or IT. Very difficult to get a 457.

interesting point

leaving as in stepping out of the compound?

why what's with the 'locals'?

Hi, i want to apply Australia working holiday visa. Did anyone can help? Anyone apply before? How do i get the government letter?

What are the prospects for people from the civil engineering, hotel management and accounting backgrounds between the ages of 32-40 to get employment in Australia now?

How about Shell Australia. they going big here in WA side mate

but still they remained in SOL.

what`s up with arrow energy?

lot of rumours Accounting is going to stay on

personally, though, they've been giving out PRs to Accounting graduates with very loose criteria for a long time now

you don't need a minimum level of academic achievement, just a skills assessment which is straightforward when you have the right degree

if they are looking for highly skilled, experienced managers and accountants (I can't imagine why there would be a shortage) they need to amend the system to stop that flow of grads - surely there are more than enough grads to satisfy the market

simply taking it off the SOL or CSOL isn't the right fix

grads are another issue because of the debate about education's importance to the economy

before the potential fee increase international students effectively mass-subsidised the system (as they did in the UK)

Accounting so bad one ah?

Why ah?

Australia don't employ accounts people to do their jobs meh?

You're pretty right. I think Abbott gov now is insane! I think unemployment rate is far higher than 10%. I think should put control on WHV. Too many of them. They can even stay up to 2years!
Should open up more opportunities to TR coz most of them in 457 and they got local experience already!

If Oz really that bad, why they're still here? Their family all here. Ask them to go back then.

Oddly enough, most the accounting jobs have been outsourced back to malaysia.

Hence the booming shared services sector in malaysia.

I heard in BP, there are absolutely zero accounts personnel in their profit centers, all finance staffs are based in regional shared services in Americas, Asia Pacific, EMEA and Western Europe.

For 40-50k, I would rather be a petrol station manager in Melb, because thats what they are earning right now.

But I got few friends still managed to get accounting jobs at SME. One of them work as a one-man HR, accounts guy using the MYOB software.

Ok, it's not a very well written article - I know all you did was share the article but I'm sharing my opinion. But to the point, he is talking about growth potential and opportunities in Malaysia. Developed market vs mature market. This is not a realisation of wealth. More like the lost dreams of someone who has failed to make it in Australia - I don't know his background so I don't know if he has made it wherever, but that's what the article seems to say.

Say what you want about emerging or developing markets, many of them have not lived up to expectations. Malaysia has certainly not reached its potential (and it won't, if it continues like this). Russia, Brazil, South Africa have not either.

If Malaysia could realise its full potential, it might be a more exciting place. But that remains to be seen. What I can say at the present is Australia is more attractive, and if you build something here long-term, it could work out really well. Imagine you work the same boring job, in Malaysia or Australia. The pay in Australia after tax and core expenses might even exceed the gross pay in Malaysia, after conversion (not including mortgages, but I've said before city property in Malaysia is expensive too).

Regarding welfare in Australia, systems around the world are far from perfect, but Australia's is pretty damn generous. If anything, it's too generous, and highly at risk of being underfunded. Something the lay person seems to fail to understand. It's too much of a disincentive to work for those low or average income workers, especially if they have some excuse. A disability or mental health issue is unfortunate, but if you can work you should. The safety net is for legitimately disabled or unfortunate people.

Not sure what oppressive tax system means. If he means taxes are high, well most Western, matured economies are high tax, and pro welfare. But incomes are also high and it's important to realise net income may well be far higher, so it's not so important that Malaysia has what's seen as a lower tax rate. Yes, you pay a larger % of your income as tax, but what comes out of that (public spending) should also be considered, and you would take home more anyway.

I disagree. Australia is very high income, and so you can get paid very well, it doesn't have to be oil and gas, resources.

Expenses are not cheap. But they're not that bad. You can look at other similar developed economies (population of 100% to 200%, close GDP per capita, mature with close demographics) and in many of them their wages are not that high yet their expenses are fairly high or comparable.

Advancement is a different thing. Can't be boiled down to an industry specific thing. Too many factors. Luck, personality, timing. In Malaysia you can also work hard but not everyone advances. Do you need to be the boss in Australia? You'll make more than bosses do in Malaysia.

don't know if a Master's degree has much value, given how easy it is to get one, and the quality of institutions awarding them, really. so i'll put that aside

i think if you're in a regular industry it's still okay. Australia is mature, can't expect many industries to be booming. if you can get a job, with a little luck and hard work, you can live a comfortable life, and not have to deal with the BS everyday in Malaysia. if you talk about starting a business, maybe elsewhere is better. just don't get into pharmaceuticals.

but no, you shouldn't be moving if you can't see yourself getting a good job. Australia is competitive, sure, but depends on where. you can see a lot of people getting paid big salaries to do fuk all (sure it happens in Malaysia too). other people fighting and still not getting jobs.

if you mean deficit, I assume you mean the costs of going through an agency to get a PR.

For those leaving Malaysia for Australia you may need to revise expectations downwards.

After all Australia works differently and you can't expect all your experience to be transferable. Don't forget Malaysia's status and reputation in the international community is far from the best ... put aside all the bad stuff that happens all the time, Malaysia is so small and underdeveloped in comparison many people in the West or with Western backgrounds still don't know who we are. Put it this way, MH370 put us on the map.

For a business or company in Australia, it takes a lot of optimism for them to want to take the risk and hire a non-local. So you need to really impress them. I don't know what the job market is like for experienced hires or professionals, but for jobs that are not super highly specialised, you won't get a job if you're not seen as committed... living and preferably working in the country already. And even if you are already doing that you need to work really hard - without networks it can be a huge struggle. As a student I've done easily 1000-2000 job applications and have about a 1% success rate in getting interviews (and hopefully a 0.1% success rate in landing work).

Yes, with the fairly recent (past few years or couple decades) growth in the Malaysian student population in Australia, we have become slightly more known - but still, many people are not aware of us and I can't blame them.

I prefer to deal directly with the employer. Don't really see the point of recruiters.

Trust me, if I sent 2000, they were all quality. I was desperate. Of course it's true that only a small fraction of the 2000 will be even considered, and that my heart wasn't in all of them. But you do what you have to do. Need to be creative when you have no visa.

nice..... 10k per/month is huge..may i ask what industry are you in? and mind to share which recruiter that you have used for? thanks buddy...

mentality? yeah, right. Austalia will get there someday. THe natural resources can't last them forever especially with the increased population and immigrants

Australia still have their tourism. their science & tech where they could tap on similar to USA and vast reserve of resource yet to be open. In general, the industry here are more diverse but skill not that high yet. Every corner there is little thing you can cross over/similar experience with your skill if its right fit for the job and still earn decent money from it.empire23 correct me.

A lot of students could use a good kick though. Don't pay uni fees until they earn a high salary of 50+k pa (many grads earn well in excess of that), and even then it's only 4% pa. Previously (and it still is for the moment) interest free student debt. Yet they complain about fee deregulation. Or complain about how crappy their unis are doing. Well of course they're doing bad, you don't pay them money!

Of course not every uni student is ungrateful and wastes public money on drugs. Australia is still a productive economy, somewhat. It just needs less of these jerks.