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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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post Jun 19 2014, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(hsuzenn @ Jun 19 2014, 09:23 PM)
So, if I have the registration with AHPRA, do I still need to send my qualifications to MBA for assessment for the immigration purposes?
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I don't think you can register with the AHPRA without an assessment by the MBA in the first place.

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post Jun 19 2014, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(hsuzenn @ Jun 19 2014, 09:37 PM)
I already have my registration or annual practising license from AHPRA which I maintain.. And yea, when I applied for the registration, it was being assessed already. So I have provide them the evidence of resgitration, is should be adequate wouldn't it?
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In that case it isn't an issue. Save yourself some time and just use your active registration then.
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post Jun 19 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(hsuzenn @ Jun 19 2014, 09:40 PM)
Pardon my last incoehrent sentence, what I meant was, if I provide them my registration, that should be adequate, shouldn't it? It is just that I am trying NOT to pay assessment fees unnecessarily..
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Yes that should be correct and is logical, after all the idea behind credential assessment is to allow you to migrate based on your medical qualifications which then leads to practice. If you already practice and are registered, provide proof of this to immi and yes, you'll save yourself some dough.


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post Jun 19 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(yapp @ Jun 19 2014, 09:43 PM)
How much for salary per month work as IT helpdesk, what company IBM, Dell  ? mind to share ? I'm also IT helpdesk at cyberjaya Malaysia  hmm.gif
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Most Australian IT call centers have their helpdesks in Malaysia ironically. At least IBM and Dell do based on my dealings with them.

QUOTE(hsuzenn @ Jun 19 2014, 09:51 PM)
Exactly!! I really hope logic applies in immigration dept..
I have even contacted MBA and they are so 'lansi'. Their answers are so 'robotic'.. cut and paste for everybody..

So, if I submit my EOI, what will happen if they dun accept that as assessment? Will I be banned from applying again for 3 years?
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Most registration and assessment agencies are like that, even Engineers Australia.

If you submit your EOI, and you are given an invitation, then you make an application and it is not considered acceptable, you can quickly ask for assessment and provide a receipt. The DIAC will then wait for you to send them the documentation to your assigned case office.

Either way I don't see any issues. Most case officers are quite flexible.
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post Jun 20 2014, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(yapp @ Jun 19 2014, 10:19 PM)
Correct me if i'm wrong ;
To work in Australia you need to get sponsor to grant you visa, any procedure need to do ? example: IELTS, Medical check up,PCC and Skills assessment

While applying PR requires me to go for  IELTS, Medical check up,PCC and Skills assessment ?
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Yes. Find someone who needs your skills in the first place, like a company. They'll file sponsorship papers and when they're done they'll send them to you with which you can make your own application for a sponsored PR.

QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jun 19 2014, 10:21 PM)
do you reckon to get the assessment done first before submitting EOI or after submitted EOI?
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It depends on occupation mostly, but since assessments have no time limit on validity I would personally get them done ASAP. Saves trouble later down the road.
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 24 2014, 11:39 AM)
Question:

If I had millions to boot, what's the best migration category to get into Australia for a PR?
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Subclass 888, Business Innovation and Investment visa. You apply for the provisional Subclass 188 and then after 2 years upgrade to the 888.

1.5 million AUD.
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 24 2014, 12:17 PM)
Thanks empire.

That was swift!  thumbup.gif

And 888 as well!  They know the Chinese well!  biggrin.gif

Is that 1.5mil cash or can you invest, like in properties ,etc?
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Investment in property is not considered acceptable.

The original 188 has 3 streams you can follow;

1) Business Talent. You need to have owned a business for 4 years and in those 4 years within 2 of them you must have had a turnover of 500k AUD per year. You will need to have 800k in the bank and ready for transfer. The business must be successful.

2) Significant Investor. You don't need to run a business or have an existing one. But you will need 5 Million AUD worth of money to invest in Australia straight up.

3) Standard Investor. You would have pre-arranged investment in Australia of the acceptable kind and held it for 1 year. This investment must be worth 1.5 million. You must have 2.25 million AUD in the bank and ready for transfer.

Also all investments are obviously taxed.
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 24 2014, 12:31 PM)
Thanks.

That's very enlightening.
On 1) I would presume this biz is in Malaysia?  That looks the easiest.
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Yes. Anywhere. You just need to show that you can run a business with a significant turnover.
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post Jun 24 2014, 02:07 PM

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Anyways I've started work at Origin Energy. Anyone here work there?
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post Jun 24 2014, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 24 2014, 02:07 PM)
Just curious, what if I join my family business as one of the business partner? Do i have to be a big stakeholder ofthe company?
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Yes, there method for calculation depending on percentage of ownership. As you own less, the company turnover requirement increases in turn. You also need to prove you are actively managing the business.

Plus it is worth noting that the 800k you have to transfer is intended for you to set up a business here. If you don't, your 188 will die and you'll have to go back.
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post Jun 25 2014, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Jun 25 2014, 03:39 PM)
I had a friend who has a DUI charge in US 5 years ago, he manage to qualify for AU Pr paid nearly 40k for him and wife + 4 kids. but when they ask him to provide FBI clearance from USA , the DUI is listed there and his PR to AU rejected and all the fees forfeited no refund.
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Damn. That's harsh. Lucky I didn't kena.
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post Jun 25 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Jun 25 2014, 03:49 PM)
yes you need to provide police clearance for all the countries you spent more then 12 months out of the past 10 years. there is no way around this.
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No I mean my AFP records had stuff on them (Now considered "spent"). But still it didn't really hamper anything.
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post Jun 27 2014, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Jun 27 2014, 05:20 AM)
How's the working life there? Are you still doing FIFO?

Thought you're moving to Canada or something.
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Yeah. Still FIFO but on an absolutely shit 21/7 roster flying out to Reedy Creek (2 hours drive from Roma). But hey for that 1 week I'm back in Brisbane, in which I'll spend 5 days sleeping, playing computer games and doing jack shit, I can live awesomely and blow my money on fast cars and penthouses.

Yes, I just did my IELTS last week for my Canadian PR under the FSW. Once the results arrive I'm all done. Moving to Canada is more of a 2015 thing but I make all preparations extremely early. If Origin decides to give me a grand a day next year I might not even move.
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QUOTE(jessie86my @ Jun 30 2014, 11:08 AM)
How's working environment in Sydney? I have got a job offer to work in Sydney and the employer will sponsor working visa for me. I am contemplating if I should take the job offer?

Anyone can advise?
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Depends on the job and the money. Always ensure you're being paid a fair wage.
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post Jun 30 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(jessie86my @ Jun 30 2014, 11:34 AM)
It is SAP job and the money is good I think, it is more than what I am getting in Malaysia (dollar to dollar).

But living expenses and also tax are a lot higher in Australia compared to Malaysia thus I don't know should I make a move. In Malaysia, I am living a comfortable life and have bf, friends and family here. If I am moving to Aus, it will be a brand new life and I don't really have friends in Sydney.

That's why I am in dilemma. sad.gif
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Well, like I said. As long as it is a fair wage for what you are doing then there is no issue. Always do your research on the market and what you're worth. For example; 6000 dollars per month equates to about 72000 a year pre-tax, which can be tight in urban Sydney but is fine, dollar for dollar in KL.

As for the life. Don't worry too much about it, you'll make new friends and having family far away sometimes has its advantages.
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QUOTE(jessie86my @ Jun 30 2014, 12:01 PM)
I have checked before, the pay is above par, however no health insurance will be covered so I have to buy my own health insurance.

I have a stable relationship here, if I go there, it might become uncertainty.
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Then it's a personal choice. If I had a stable relationship I probably wouldn't. But I'm not in your shoes, thus my opinion is pretty moot.


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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jun 30 2014, 08:47 PM)
Thanks guys. The average waiting time after lodgement ranges from 3 to 6 months. All my documents were front-loaded (inclusive of medical), hoping for a direct grant.

I have applied under 221213 External Auditor with sponsorship from Queensland.
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Welcome to QLD. Bestest and most sunshine state. Been here 7 years, wouldn't rather be anywhere else in friggen Australia.

If you want to rent a house for a very reasonable sum of money, do PM me.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 1 2014, 07:46 PM)

Yes it is. Consider yourself very lucky. I may not know a lot about your industry or field of work, but it doesn't sound (to me) like a highly specialised and technical field of work requiring many years of training like cardiology, nuclear engineering, etc. Then again, bricklayer, chef etc are on the list. But the point is that whether it is on the list or not, bringing someone in from overseas is very risky (you may leave anytime as you have few roots in Australia) and presents hassle (time, money, uncertainty and trouble for the visa).

No offence meant to your profession, my job is also office-based and if you're smart you can be qualified in just a few years after your degree. Your age (quite young) also proves that you did not need that much field or work experience. Whereas if someone in Australia needed a pediatric neurosurgeon but was unable to find one then the need to make the effort to get a foreigner is more obvious.
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Actually it is quite technical. SAP (excluding the simple stuff like ABAP / SAPBUSONE) is what most of the largest companies in the world companies run on.

We have a joke in the industry that SAP was made by the Germans as a final "f*** you" to the world after losing WW2. It is extremely complex, the certification price borders on insane (10000 AUD for 10 day course for one section), its interlocking components require a strong knowledge of both programming and business flow.

Essentially a good SAP consultant is a programmer, business admin, mathematician, networking specialist and data analyst. A SAP system can consist of everything from production data, risk management, accounting, invoicing and hell you can crosslink it with a supplier's SAP so ordering is automated depending on stock levels.

I know it generally because I used to ensure my company's SAP infrastructure was up and running (network, SQL database, ODBC linking, automated mirroring and compliance)/

If I had SAP certs I would have demanded a lot more. It's been quite some time since I touched SAP, but there's a reason people get paid well for it. I mostly deal with its rival Oracle these days, but I understand that niche IT is very high in demand. For example a person with a CCIE can generally expect to earn 200k a year easily. But of course the content of these courses makes uni look easy, I did my CCNA in 2005 and did my CCNP (BSCI) in 2007 half way....Uni is cakewalk compared to this laugh.gif


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post Jul 2 2014, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 2 2014, 12:29 AM)
I see. But then again, given the young age in this case, I don't think the level of skill/training required would make for an unavailable resource in the country.

Calling a programmer a mathematician is stretching things a bit I think... I don't know that much about IT, clearly, but I do know a thing or two about Maths.

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For SAP specialists, they're quite rare actually. I can count the amount of locals good at SAP with 1 hand here in Brisbane. Plus you'd think that Geologists, Rock techs and Engineers are pretty common but Weatherford, Schlumberger and Halliburton have been bringing in people with 1 or 2 years post grad experience in on sponsored visas. I'm friends with quite a few of these people laugh.gif

There is no uni course for SAP and due to the cost of training, it's much easier to just poach people from overseas sometimes who have already been trained. Much like how professional drilling, fraccing and secondary recovery courses only entail 2 weeks of formal training and 2 years of field experience, but pay absurd amounts of money.

SAP people generally have to be quite strong in the math department as programming data and trending analysis in SAP requires pretty in depth math especially when it comes to statistics and customer requirements for interpretation. Some may opt to use a "package" but most big clients will opt for custom functions. Nothing harder than 2 year uni math at least, but still out of general IT boundaries.

Plus your math isn't like computer math tongue.gif Example of low level comp math: You can the answer of 4x4 via 2 ways, MUL or using ADD the number "4" 3 times, but if you're going to use add 3 times, you might need more cycles and branches, but if your architecture is RISC based, it might be a better solution. Then you still have to calculate the amount of cache hits and probabilities going back to the memory and so on.

Age and general experience are moot in some industries. She's lucky she chose a good field. I'm unlucky because I didn't choose to do CSWIP and earn 1000 AUD a day with 1 year of working experience. When I was a kid I thought a BEng would bring in a shit load of money. Silly me laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 2 2014, 01:43 AM)
I thought a BEng still does smile.gif

1000 a day... who would've thought!
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Yeah. A BEng brings a decent wage, but why drive a Proton when you can drive a Lambo?

1000 a day is a very conservative figure as that's what QGC's contractors Theiss and Eneflex pay their guys, even more so if they have a radiation license for both gamma and neutron sources. Not only do they get paid well, if they f*** up, they can take a stab at being The Hulk laugh.gif

Reality bites. Hard. I just wish I knew all of this earlier so I didn't waste so many years of my life chasing tertiary qualifications that would amount to little.

QUOTE(Soony @ Jul 2 2014, 06:01 AM)
If you're in the correct field and in the correct position. BEng may still get you shitloads.
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Should have done Petrol Eng or even better Mining Eng. 100k fresh grad money. Not bad at all.

But the reality is that you study for 4 years, then come out to the market and realize that you make less than half of what a welding inspector, telemetry/instro tech or driller make and they're still younger than you. It isn't like overburden drilling or kill sheets are rocket science, but people get paid a lot for it.

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