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post Oct 29 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 29 2013, 03:50 AM)
Hi guys, my company is looking for some worker from Malaysia who wish to become a bricklayer or tiler. No experience required as the visa our company offered is 402 lasted for 2 years. It's a training and apprenticeship plus salary. This is meant for anyone who's without degree or certificate who wish to work in Australia and experience the lifestyle here.
Once you got 2 years with us, company will apply and convert your visa to 457 which is working visa and the salary will be adjusted to local salary.
If anyone interested, please PM me and i'll inform my management.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS LEGALLY DONE AND NOT JUMPING FROM PLANE! WE GO THROUGH PROPER WAY TO GET WORKER FROM OVERSEAS!
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How much would the pay be for first two years?
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post Oct 29 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Oct 29 2013, 02:24 PM)
How much would the pay be for first two years?
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The pay is approximate $15/hr. This position is meant for apprenticeship or someone who wish to be trained as bricklayer/tiler. So, as highlighted previously, people who intend to have a blue-collar job here (which have bright future here than Malaysia), can let me know.
Once you're with the company for 2 years, further adjustment on salary will be done accordingly.
Please note that this is a golden opportunities
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post Oct 30 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:50 AM)
Hi guys, my company is looking for some worker from Malaysia who wish to become a bricklayer or tiler. No experience required as the visa our company offered is 402 lasted for 2 years. It's a training and apprenticeship plus salary. This is meant for anyone who's without degree or certificate who wish to work in Australia and experience the lifestyle here.
Once you got 2 years with us, company will apply and convert your visa to 457 which is working visa and the salary will be adjusted to local salary.
If anyone interested, please PM me and i'll inform my management.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS LEGALLY DONE AND NOT JUMPING FROM PLANE! WE GO THROUGH PROPER WAY TO GET WORKER FROM OVERSEAS!
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Hey there, mind if i ask which part of Australia? Cheers!
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post Oct 30 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Logicunity @ Oct 30 2013, 02:21 PM)
Hey there, mind if i ask which part of Australia? Cheers!
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Located in North Perth. 30-35 min drive to north from city
The visa is 402 which you can refer to following details:-

http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/temporary-visa/402/

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Oct 30 2013, 04:20 PM
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post Oct 30 2013, 07:04 PM

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Hi guys.

Im currently a graduate from Bachelor of Quantity Surveying. Going to pursue my Master's degree next year (March) in Australia (Master of Project Management).

Will I have a chance to work there after I graduated from my Masters degree? I wanted to work there if I have the chance smile.gif

Hope some of u sifus can give opinion.

Thanks!
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post Oct 30 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 29 2013, 05:09 PM)
The pay is approximate $15/hr. This position is meant for apprenticeship or someone who wish to be trained as bricklayer/tiler. So, as highlighted previously, people who intend to have a blue-collar job here (which have bright future here than Malaysia), can let me know.
Once you're with the company for 2 years, further adjustment on salary will be done accordingly.
Please note that this is a golden opportunities
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can't adjust to around 20-25/hr?
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post Oct 31 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(freewisefly @ Oct 30 2013, 07:39 PM)
can't adjust to around 20-25/hr?
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Please check back what i've mentioned earlier. Stop asking the same question!
This is appenticeship. Visa 402 is training visa.
Pay is of course lower coz meant for people who wish to learn to become bricklayer.
If you have degree, you all can apply somewhere else. This is position for someone who wish to learn a skill in bricklaying. Once they've experience, they can continue with us or get a job from other employer
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post Oct 31 2013, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 31 2013, 09:58 AM)
Please check back what i've mentioned earlier. Stop asking the same question!
This is appenticeship. Visa 402 is training visa.
Pay is of course lower coz meant for people who wish to learn to become bricklayer.
If you have degree, you all can apply somewhere else. This is position for someone who wish to learn a skill in bricklaying. Once they've experience, they can continue with us or get a job from other employer
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Sorry Bro, I just realised after posted my question. Why that happened? I was too excited and I tot it was the last message you posted. Maybe I felt you are angry on this or I might be wrong. Take it easy, bro.
Of course I know the rate it is lower for apprenticeship, and 15/hr was 5 years ago rate and secondly there are shortage of skill workers. I thought there will be a slight increment as inflation go up. Seriously keen in this, but do need further details. Do we need to engage with a training school for that? Accommodation provided?
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post Oct 31 2013, 04:50 PM

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How many vacancies is available? Do we need IELTS? Is there any job other then bricklayer? Thanks for your info.
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QUOTE(Prothero @ Oct 30 2013, 10:04 PM)
Hi guys.

Im currently a graduate from Bachelor of Quantity Surveying. Going to pursue my Master's degree next year (March) in Australia (Master of Project Management).

Will I have a chance to work there after I graduated from my Masters degree? I wanted to work there if I have the chance smile.gif

Hope some of u sifus can give opinion.

Thanks!
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you can work if you have experience. Experience matters over paper. smile.gif
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post Oct 31 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:50 AM)
Hi guys, my company is looking for some worker from Malaysia who wish to become a bricklayer or tiler. No experience required as the visa our company offered is 402 lasted for 2 years. It's a training and apprenticeship plus salary. This is meant for anyone who's without degree or certificate who wish to work in Australia and experience the lifestyle here.
Once you got 2 years with us, company will apply and convert your visa to 457 which is working visa and the salary will be adjusted to local salary.
If anyone interested, please PM me and i'll inform my management.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS LEGALLY DONE AND NOT JUMPING FROM PLANE! WE GO THROUGH PROPER WAY TO GET WORKER FROM OVERSEAS!
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i am interested.
Need further detail.
How many hour can we work per day and week?
Accommodation provided? if not how much would it set us back per person?
Transportation?
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post Nov 1 2013, 09:29 AM

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Sorry, it's not an angry terms i'm using. It's just that i've being repeated the same answer over and over again.
I knew there's so many question need to ask and i hardly answer each of you. I've instructed my office to post it into Jobstreet or Jobsdb soon enough when my boss has to list out what sort of benefit and allowance given coz he himself has yet to give me the details but only the type of visa gonna use. Request for further salary or better benefit then better talk to the management personally during interview.
Will let you all know the posting date, the soonest should be early next week coz my HR guy still on leave.
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Oct 18 2013, 09:48 PM)
when u try to apply for a job, always remember get urself a visa 1st. not the tourist visa but the visa allow u to work.
Oz has a major problem. Plenty of job here but no 1 willing to work. y? coz the gov restrict the foreign workers. how? Oz worker will take the job 1st. later only for immigrants. if ur job is highly demand, then u have better chance of getting 1. if ur job profession to broad to get anyone on board, then u'll be in hard time getting a job.
getting the PR not the biggest hurdle so far i concern. it's the job security. if really u can't find ur job profession, might as well change line. some ppl making a good living in other industry. this has to ask urself wat's ur purpose of migrating. if u're thinking of making big money here, sorry, this is not the place for u. earning big bugs still malaysia. looking for normal life, semi-retire and kids education, here might be ur choice.
came out in local newspaper, almost 1000 new immigrants arrive in perth.
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Nemanis bro, mind sharing which age group are u in now, early/ mid/ late 20s or 30s? I am sharing the same concerns too and why I want to migrate, in the past I was keen but still 50-50, but in the past couple of years I started becoming parents and looking at all things happening, my 50 to stay back had almost dropped to nil. But my struggle now is I am 40yo now, I am willing to forego all I have built in Msia, career, salary, status to exchange a more affordable, quality and fair education for my children, but at the same time worrying if Oz today is still as good as people who migrated many years ago claimed, reading the threads here I am a little worried. Job securing is another concern, I know I definitely won't get the same opportunity as I have here, I have lowered my own expectation and ready to switch profession. Would appreciate some feedback from people who have gone through the same struggle and some share of experience.
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QUOTE(freewisefly @ Oct 31 2013, 04:05 PM)
Sorry Bro, I just realised after posted my question. Why that happened? I was too excited and I tot it was the last message you posted. Maybe I felt you are angry on this or I might be wrong. Take it easy, bro.
Of course I know the rate it is lower for apprenticeship, and 15/hr was 5 years ago rate and secondly there are shortage of skill workers. I thought there will be a slight increment as inflation go up. Seriously keen in this, but do need further details. Do we need to engage with a training school for that? Accommodation provided?
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It's an apprenticeship. You're lucky you aren't paid 10 bucks and told to dig a random hole in the hot sun for asking the boss too many questions laugh.gif

Usually by engaging you as an apprentice;

1. Living costs aren't included (You may not apply for govt aid as you aren't a citizen)
2. Your TAFE training school by law must be paid for by the employer and they must release you for block training
3. You are everyone's b****. Now go dig a hole. While you're at it, wash the car.
4. Usually you do a 1/4 thing, 3 months a year on TAFE, 9 months of work.
5. Once you're done you get a CERT III but not before you do your final exam called CAPSTONE.
6. 2 years to finish an apprenticeship is a bit rich laugh.gif
7. An apprenticeship is a contract enforced by law. You can't just break it if you behsong.

My advice;

1. If you can tahan. It is worth it. After you get your cert. Fark off and apply for PR under SOL.
2. You might want to do what is called a "Dual trade". Negotiate with your boss for this. eg; Bricklaying + Masonry
3. You can ask for a payrise after 6 months or something as a good will thing, but don't expect it



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post Nov 4 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ladyhat @ Nov 2 2013, 11:07 PM)
Nemanis bro, mind sharing which age group are u in now, early/ mid/ late 20s or 30s? I am sharing the same concerns too and why I want to migrate, in the past I was keen but still 50-50, but in the past couple of years I started becoming parents and looking at all things happening, my 50 to stay back had almost dropped to nil. But my struggle now is I am 40yo now, I am willing to forego all I have built in Msia, career, salary, status to exchange a more affordable, quality and fair education for my children, but at the same time worrying if Oz today is still as good as people who migrated many years ago claimed, reading the threads here I am a little worried. Job securing is another concern, I know I definitely won't get the same opportunity as I have here, I have lowered my own expectation and ready to switch profession. Would appreciate some feedback from people who have gone through the same struggle and some share of experience.
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I start thinking migrating since 13 years ago after i graduate from uni. However, i decided to go back malaysia to help to rebuild my country. 2008 think about it again but still let go the 2nd opportunity 'again' after being brainwashed. 2011, after all 10 years of working, malaysia economy getting far worst than ever. currency dropped, country's debt increasing, salary ganasai and work like hell! I got 2 kids need to raise my friend!
so decided to compile watever shit documents and lodge in application. Still, many ppl surrounding me telling me doing this is stupid coz already establish network and relationship with company can help me in business....this is totally bullshit. I dun even care! When u're in deep shit, no 1 gonna help u. Who gonna help my kids into uni even they get straight A's? I can't afford to send my kids to local college or foreign uni in future to get better education even me myself is foreign uni graduates!

Well, following are my events:-
Lodged visa: May 2012
Granted: Jan 2013
Resign: May 2013
Arrive Oz: July 2013
Got job : Mid Aug 2013
Work: 3 mths now

I'm aged 33 now, some ppl came in here earlier than me has bought houses in Oz. I think still not too late for me, will start rebuilding my place here, make sure my kids getting the best what it's here.
I must highlight again, not many ppl is suitable migrating here. If you're thinking of making money living like a rich man here, sorry, Oz is not the place for u. The tax will kill you. Living normal and comfortable and with all gadgets or basic items, yes Oz will be ur place.
Many my friend went back Malaysia complaining Oz cheating their money. It very depending on what kind of lifestyle u're looking for. Some ppl complaining no malaysian food here, don't feel like home here or tax too high. If u have these kind of complain, please don't come. I've heard so many complain on this. Now i realised not only Singaporean is complain king & queen, it has struck malaysian as well. Some even threw their PR away.
Tax is high here. but i'm willing to be tax and at least i know my money are well spent.
Anyone who wish to work here, please find urself a visa which eligible to work.

DO NOT RISK YOURSELF TO WORK ILLEGALLY HERE COZ I DID SAW SOME MALAYSIAN WORK ILLEGALLY HERE GET CAUGHT!
DON'T PUT ON SHAME ON OUR MALAYSIAN HERE! mad.gif


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post Nov 4 2013, 01:53 PM

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Hi guys, just posted a few job advertisement in following website. If you all interested in the position as highlighted, please email to the job sites:-

http://my.jobsdb.com/MY/EN/Search/FindJobs...&Key=bricklayer
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post Nov 4 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 4 2013, 10:19 AM)
I start thinking migrating since 13 years ago after i graduate from uni.  However, i decided to go back malaysia to help to rebuild my country. 2008 think about it again but still let go the 2nd opportunity 'again' after being brainwashed. 2011, after all 10 years of working, malaysia economy getting far worst than ever. currency dropped, country's debt increasing, salary ganasai and work like hell! I got 2 kids need to raise my friend!
so decided to compile watever shit documents and lodge in application. Still, many ppl surrounding me telling me doing this is stupid coz already establish network and relationship with company can help me in business....this is totally bullshit. I dun even care! When u're in deep shit, no 1 gonna help u. Who gonna help my kids into uni even they get straight A's? I can't afford to send my kids to local college or foreign uni in future to get better education even me myself is foreign uni graduates!

Well, following are my events:-
Lodged visa: May 2012
Granted: Jan 2013
Resign: May 2013
Arrive Oz: July 2013
Got job : Mid Aug 2013
Work: 3 mths now

I'm aged 33 now, some ppl came in here earlier than me has bought houses in Oz. I think still not too late for me, will start rebuilding my place here, make sure my kids getting the best what it's here.
I must highlight again, not many ppl is suitable migrating here. If you're thinking of making money living like a rich man here, sorry, Oz is not the place for u. The tax will kill you. Living normal and comfortable and with all gadgets or basic items, yes Oz will be ur place.
Many my friend went back Malaysia complaining Oz cheating their money. It very depending on what kind of lifestyle u're looking for. Some ppl complaining no malaysian food here, don't feel like home here or tax too high. If u have these kind of complain, please don't come. I've heard so many complain on this. Now i realised not only Singaporean is complain king & queen, it has struck malaysian as well. Some even threw their PR away.
Tax is high here. but i'm willing to be tax and at least i know my money are well spent.
Anyone who wish to work here, please find urself a visa which eligible to work.

DO NOT RISK YOURSELF TO WORK ILLEGALLY HERE COZ I DID SAW SOME MALAYSIAN WORK ILLEGALLY HERE GET CAUGHT!
DON'T PUT ON SHAME ON OUR MALAYSIAN HERE! mad.gif
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Thanks for sharing your experience, I think you are definitely not too late to be there, congrats on the move, I am sure it's the best for the family too.
I too was giving myself many reasoning that my country is not bad after all, but when my children arrived, I have to stop hoping here but opening my eyes, taking my calculator to estimate where would all of us be say 15 years from now, and how much i can provide and how best I can provide by then, it surely not looking hopeful then. Anyway I will need to get my assessment done first, I guess being 40 my points will be lower, but will give it a try.

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QUOTE(ladyhat @ Nov 4 2013, 11:18 PM)
Thanks for sharing your experience, I think you are definitely not too late to be there, congrats on the move, I am sure it's the best for the family too.
I too was giving myself many reasoning that my country is not bad after all, but when my children arrived, I have to stop hoping here but opening my eyes, taking my calculator to estimate where would all of us be say 15 years from now, and how much i can provide and how best I can provide by then, it surely not looking hopeful then. Anyway I will need to get my assessment done first, I guess being 40 my points will be lower, but will give it a try.
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I'm probably repeating myself, but I don't think people should migrate here because of their off spring. Just send them overseas when they are older, there are plenty of places in the world to choose from. Even if you move to Australia, your child will probably end up in UK or USA anyway, which is what is happening here now. And education here is not cheap, it could just be a "Sydney only" situation, but people who can afford it sends their kid to private school, and for any professional who migrates here because of your children's education, you should be in that group too. We just had a look on the school fees, year 1 cost 14k per annum and it gradually increases to 24k on year 12. That is excluding the fees for uniforms, out of school activities and stuff. And yes it is very common to send kids to after school tuition/classes too.

Think about yourself and what you want to achieve. What really makes you happy and strive for that. Your kids will be good if you spend enough time with them and being the role model to educate them. Australia or Malaysia, it is the same. And migrating at 40 years old is not uncommon, a lot of people does that. I personally won't do that unless I am in huge trouble in Malaysia, but I won't discourage you either. Reason being, I feel like earning MYR to support an AUD lifestyle is really hard. I did work in Malaysia for almost 5 years, and I am still playing catchup now after being here for 3 years. I am not really worse off then most people here, but I think I would have achieved more if I started in Australia instead of Malaysia, and I still want that to happen. 10 years of catching up will be too hard on me psychologically though.

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Nov 5 2013, 07:06 AM)
I'm probably repeating myself, but I don't think people should migrate here because of their off spring. Just send them overseas when they are older, there are plenty of places in the world to choose from. Even if you move to Australia, your child will probably end up in UK or USA anyway, which is what is happening here now. And education here is not cheap, it could just be a "Sydney only" situation, but people who can afford it sends their kid to private school, and for any professional who migrates here because of your children's education, you should be in that group too. We just had a look on the school fees, year 1 cost 14k per annum and it gradually increases to 24k on year 12. That is excluding the fees for uniforms, out of school activities and stuff. And yes it is very common to send kids to after school tuition/classes too.

Think about yourself and what you want to achieve. What really makes you happy and strive for that. Your kids will be good if you spend enough time with them and being the role model to educate them. Australia or Malaysia, it is the same. And migrating at 40 years old is not uncommon, a lot of people does that. I personally won't do that unless I am in huge trouble in Malaysia, but I won't discourage you either. Reason being, I feel like earning MYR to support an AUD lifestyle is really hard. I did work in Malaysia for almost 5 years, and I am still playing catchup now after being here for 3 years. I am not really worse off then most people here, but I think I would have achieved more if I started in Australia instead of Malaysia, and I still want that to happen. 10 years of catching up will be too hard on me psychologically though.
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Well, I'm one of the person who migrate here because of offspring. I'm the generation who need to sacrifice my courier in Malaysia to prepare education route for them to walk through. Once they graduate uni, if there's opportunity for them to work in UK/USA, why not? Means i've successfully make sure they have they're own bright future.
Talk about fees, many people bother sending kids neither public or private? Public school here ain't that lousy. Depends on which suburb you're living in. I came from lousy suburb back in malaysia but i graduated with degree and i'm here. I don't see any difference. As long parents put more time and effort to their kids and pay attention on their daily life and activities. I knew many malaysian family just threw the teaching responsibilities to teachers. When shit happens, blame the teacher. Thanks to my dad for guiding me, if not, i'm a bad-ass!
Malaysia & Australia education situation is totally different. I think you definitely not married yet or not having kids yet.
Malaysia emphasize too much on academic until i found some students actually looks like a geek or bookworm. It's not wrong but just that try to be alive! Try to be active, saw some uni students from malaysia really a bookworm. The eye focus somehow irritate me....The good thing is they really good in academic.
Ozzie emphasize on curriculum more. Brainstorming on ideas and creativity. Involve more in sports. Academic wise....hmm...bit lousy especially maths. If you get 60% in malaysia exam, you can get 80% here or score As. hehe

Malaysia inflation is getting worst now. Wait and see. I spent 10 years working so hard and leave me no choice to leave. Giving 2 chance already. Hardly seen any economic revive. Thanks to our Najis administration.
Bashing Chinese, Indian, Christian or Malays who don't support them. What else they can think of? Murderers and rapist walk freely? Corruption scandals revealed still can elected become senator? PKFZ scandal walk freely?!?
I really dunno what else will reveal again. It's too much for me. Even making into hollywood movie won't have enough budget. Maybe put into drama series....



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QUOTE(ladyhat @ Nov 4 2013, 11:18 PM)
Thanks for sharing your experience, I think you are definitely not too late to be there, congrats on the move, I am sure it's the best for the family too.
I too was giving myself many reasoning that my country is not bad after all, but when my children arrived, I have to stop hoping here but opening my eyes, taking my calculator to estimate where would all of us be say 15 years from now, and how much i can provide and how best I can provide by then, it surely not looking hopeful then. Anyway I will need to get my assessment done first, I guess being 40 my points will be lower, but will give it a try.
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I suggest you give it a try. Make sure you do your own homework 1st. Don't listen blindly to agents. I think you're professional enough to analyse what need to be done.
Stay positive, check the job demand here. It ain't easy to relocate, will take you 1-2 years to relocate after granted visa and you'll flying back often.
Visa fees has increased twice this year. Check the latest charges. Possible, DIY

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