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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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post Jul 17 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(kiumo @ Jul 17 2014, 06:01 PM)
Just wondering if your mates in AGL can help referring my cv? Cheers
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Erm they were just calling me a few days back all wanna lompat to Origin laugh.gif

But yeah if you're a permanent resident feel free to PM me a link to your resume and I'll pass it on.
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post Jul 18 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(katrina89 @ Jul 18 2014, 11:18 AM)
My brother migrated to australia 2 years ago. 1st you need to get a PR which is not that easy. They have some test to see your english level. My brother got the PR after like 3 years. Next is to apply job there, you must be there and ready to be interviewed anytime. My brother had a hard time because they only offer contract 6 months then very hard to renew. By the 5th month you have to look for another job. You will be lucky if you have permanent position. The rent over there is weekly basis. Not monthly. But my brother said it is better than Malaysia. A peaceful life even you have to spend abit extra on the house rent and tax.But cars are cheap. He scared to come back to malaysia. He said feel not safe.
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Actually everyone I know is on a permanent position.

The rent can be monthly depending on your contract.

Cars aren't cheap if you attract LCT and a giant insurance premium.

It really depends on what you're looking for. If I had to be on temp 6 month contracts living in Australia I'd just go somewhere else.
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jul 19 2014, 11:03 AM)
if cars are cheap, the why do I see people there driving small cars? instead of BMWs?

what about financing? They don't use HP right? They go by leases? Are the instalments more hefty and discourage buyers from buying luxury cars?
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I think cars just aren't too big of a culture here. My ex-boss was a millionaire, but he was happy enough to get himself a Toyota 86 (only 30k AUD here).

It's the insurance that kills you most of the time. About to 2.5k for your average car a year if you choose a low excess. Also the fact is that car loans only go up to 5 years and the interest rate is usually around the 8 to 10 percent mark.

When I first bought a car out of uni I paid 14.5 percent per annum on my car, due to my risk factor and low credit score. Enough for me to pay it off in 1 year just to save the dough. Also petrol is taxed. I drive very little but on average my fuel costs me about 4000 dollars a year.

Car loans here usually aren't leases. You only do a lease if you're a company and have a salary package. It's usually just a normal secured loan.
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post Jul 27 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 26 2014, 09:59 AM)
I know apartments cost a lot, close to a mil. Even the cheap ones (which are tiny) are upwards of 600k.

How much pay do I need before I even start considering buying a house?

People tell me 6 months, 1-2 years of working... my pay is only avg right now, but I'm happy with it, and just to be in Sydney.

Should I get PR locked down before I think about those things? How much do I need saved up, as it could be 1.5 or 2 years to get a PR.
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Depends really, but if you want to borrow 600k you're looking at 3.5k worth of repayment a month across 30 year on average. For around that mark you're looking at a nett rent of 500 a week or 2k a month. So you must ask if you cough up that 1.5k every month (which will usually include some form of LMI and insurance which drives the figure up)

If you're considering doing it as an investment and like me are fine to live in a cardboard box because the company takes care of my lodging 80 percent of the time (my rent is only 400 a month and my makan costs 200), I would say you can take the plunge around 80 to 90k per annum, assuming that you're using some form of negative gearing and reinjecting gains back into the property.

You should get a PR as anyone under a TR will need to jump through the extra hoops put in place by the FIRB and restricts the kind of property you can buy. If you want to buy any property unrestricted by FIRB regulations you'll have to live in it, which defeats the purpose of an investment.
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post Aug 1 2014, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ Jul 31 2014, 06:45 PM)
Hi, I'm not sure if anyone over there is working in IT field over there? May need some advice getting a job over there.
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Here's some advice. Unless you're really special and experienced, do not attempt to get an IT job here. Demand is low and supply is extremely high.
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post Aug 2 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ Aug 2 2014, 01:48 PM)
Can I get more details about it? As I know IT is quite broad and there are many fields in this industry that we can build a career path. I'm curious where can I check what's the supply that is high at the moment in any specific specialization.
India supplies mostly software specialist?
IT industry in Malaysia is kind of generalized, they're not that specific, and I would say I'm more inclined/specialized in both IT Network and IT Windows/Hardware. Wondering if I have an opportunity to build my career there, even though if it's from scratch.
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You'll have to tell me what kind of IT you're in then and your width of experience. The GSM program that allows for migration into Australia is specific about what kinds of IT people are granted residency. You should state your specific degree, major and any certifications you have.

If you're into Windows and Hardware, don't bother, those kinds are a dime a dozen. I'm an electrical engineer by trade and I was doing IT as additional service at my last job for extra money. If your skills are limited to programming Cisco IOS with a few routes, setting up a NAT and VPN handshaking, a few office tasks like repairing computers and setting up security + admin on Windows Server via Powershell, any chump can do that, because I learned those things in a few weeks from the University of Youtube.

If you're into networks and have a very strong background in corporate/multisite networking eg; Cisco CCNP, Juniper JNCP or WAN level routing, then there is heavy demand for it. Especially if you have additional skills in network analysis, traffic auditing, automatic failover programming and other layer 2/3 stuff.

I know that Alcatel Lucent specialists are also in heavy demand due to the NBN rollout.
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post Aug 5 2014, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 3 2014, 11:25 PM)
Hi bro(s), how bout O&G supply chain?
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Depends on which part of the chain. Upstream or Downstream and whether you're well versed in our technical standards. Just remember that there are hardly any permanent jobs in this business.
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post Aug 5 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 5 2014, 03:10 PM)
It's downstream.
Not many permanent job offer in this filed or in Australia? Mind to share what is the reason?
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They pay us a lot and thus it is unviable to keep us for long periods of time with little work. Once a project ends we are usually sent on our way and we just jump to the next project. Even the most useless upstream graduate position costs the company about 100k in gaji, 25k in accommodation costs, 20k in transport costs and another 25k in insurance, entitlements, superannuation and so on.

Australia is very much a "We have no work for you, pack your stuff, you leave tomorrow. Here's your redundancy payout" unlike in Malaysia where people at least wait a month or two lol.

Plus the downstream industry is nearly dead. Both BP and Caltex have closed/sold both their major processing facilities. Most people I know working there are on 1 year renewal contracts. I have been advised by friends that it is a sinking ship.
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post Aug 16 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Aug 15 2014, 05:04 PM)
I live in a strata apt building (renting) and some ******* has parked their car in my garage (somehow bypassing the lock/remote control access). The parking spots are tied to the apartment unit (assigned).

Agent kns, parking operator won't do anything. Building management are cooperative and sincere but don't really have the power to do anything.

Any tips what I can do? Call police? Don't even know if police will help.
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Key old mate's car.

Duh.

Either way here at Origin Energy, we're looking for a few select people who are willing to join the "Trainee Operators" program, the roster is 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, there are no requirements for education, they'll teach you everything. Pay is about 100k-ish. Suggest you be mechanically inclined.

Do not waste my time and PM me for a referral if;

1) You aren't an Australian resident (unless you have a mech trade and a TR visa)
2) You can't live a roster lifestyle (eg; Wife, kids, GF....generally you should be foreveralone)
3) Can't lift about 50kg. (It is a physical job)
4) Have qualms about getting your hands dirty (It's a first step into OnG. Expect to get dirty)

Now if you don't have issues with the above. PM me.

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post Aug 18 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Aug 18 2014, 01:51 PM)
Hi all, my engineering degree is accredited, but do I need Engineers Australia to assess my skilled employment? I will be claiming 10 points for that.
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Yes. You will need your degree assessed by EngAus.
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post Aug 19 2014, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Aug 19 2014, 07:50 AM)
Hi empire23, thanks for the reply.
What if I'm claiming points for overseas experience of 3 years?
Do I need EngAus to provide an opinion as well?
The problem is I have to get a letter from my current company for that.
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Eng Aus will assess your engineering experience as well.

You will need a letter from your current employer and your previous employers listing your position/title, start/end date, your duties, what you have been trained in and a contact point for your manager.


QUOTE(selvenz @ Aug 19 2014, 08:12 AM)
Also don't assume if you have degree its same as Aussie standard.
After assessment you might find your degree only equal to diploma in Aussie.

Goodluck
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Most of the time for an engineering degree it is the same standard due to international engineering education agreements.
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post Aug 25 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Aug 25 2014, 11:21 AM)
OH =3, thanks for the recommendation, any idea how to apply PR after graduation? Should i continue my master in Melbourne than is easier to apply for PR and also job opportunities will be higher?
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Depends on what you're studying. Applying is easy, meeting the criteria, that's the hard part. Also depends on what kind of job you're looking for.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(saikit25 @ Aug 25 2014, 01:31 PM)
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My major is Mechatronic Engineering for degree. Finding for engineering job =D, oh is very easy to apply but the criteria to fulfil is very hard is it? Got any useful reference link for it? Thanks you in advance
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No insult meant, but with your current level of English, I don't think you'd score the necessary band 7 in IELTS writing required to migrate.

My advice is to fulfil the most pressing requirements first, like your IELTS test. This is where a lot of people fail to clear the hurdle.

I've spent all my working life working for mines and OnG companies, the attitude here is that they're sooner hire a guy with no degree but can speak like a local rather than a top of the line graduate with a perfect CGPA for most non-grad roles.

Plus mechatronics engineering's ANZSCO code is not included in the list of occupations allowed to migrate to Australia (the SOL list) due to its listing under "other engineering professionals" http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Pr...g+Professionals.
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post Aug 26 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Aug 26 2014, 07:54 AM)
Which part of Australia are you in?
Mind to describe what is it like working in the construction industry there?
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Depends on which end of the stick you're on. If you're receiving end of the pointy side (contractor), life generally sucks.
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post Aug 26 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Aug 26 2014, 01:42 PM)
In what way? I'm probably on that end of the stick...haha
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Firstly job stability is crap and only the top 10 percent ever get a permanent position. Everyone else is on contract.

Everything is designed to AS standards and very particular sets of guidelines for most megascale projects. But since I work for the customer, my job is to find flaws without regards to anything else and I don't want to be on the receiving end of the shit we regularly send the contractor.

Most large projects operate this way whereby we'll even deny project payment for small shit like a lightbulb not being fitted and cut early completion bonuses. Tak suka? Raise punchlist and LOL as the construction engineers see their yearly bonus disappear.

If you want to get onto a construction project, be on the customer's side, not only is it easier, but you're more likely to become permanent operations staff as they shift phases.

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post Aug 26 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 26 2014, 03:58 PM)
Ive got 14 years construction background and current work for Leighton.
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I now mostly deal with Laing O'Rourke, but will be dealing with Leighton and UGL later on as our team moves to supervise other sites, their PAUs and their connection to the main gas line. Most of us were poached from other teams after APLNG needed to kick back into high gear after drilling and completions got their asses handed to them due to an issue with unapproved drilling fluids.

After APLNG is completed I plan to move to Canada if I'm not returned to operations. Unless Gorgon or the Northern Fields kicks off, then I'll have a reason to stay on for some extra cash. But being on the side of the customer is almost always better due to the stability it affords, especially when an order for demobilization kicks in.

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post Aug 27 2014, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Aug 26 2014, 10:46 PM)
Hello guys,
If I can a get a job in Oz after my studies, will that be possible for me to get a visa ? If yes, which category of visa will I be aiming ? Kindly advice me. Cheers.
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No, getting a job does not automatically grant you a visa. Your employer must be willing to sponsor you and pass a labour requirement test (essentially they have to prove that they can't find anyone with your skillset). Also your nominated occupation must be on the ENSOL.
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post Sep 13 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ginsy @ Sep 12 2014, 07:36 PM)
But won't I get a better chance if I had working experience in SG? The standard here in SG is higher right?
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Australian employer mentality, all asian countries are the same and everyone goes chingchong or something similar.
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post Sep 19 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 19 2014, 02:21 PM)
Well, as i said it's a bit of ah beng ah seng here. My boss told me heaps of stories gangsterism and construction industry in Perth. Sounds so familiar in KL. Boss ask me to talk to them in 'good manner' not too harsh somemore. If not, let him deal with them. Probably the industry is a fast profit making biz. Some supplier or builder big boss are actually triads taiko locally. sweat.gif
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Well a lot of the builders have both bikie and union connections. A lot of CFMEU and ETU unionists are connected to the gangs. That's why you don't screw around with union members, or they'll get their bikie mates to molotov your house lol.

That being said I'm a union member as well. Thus I cover my own arse as well.
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post Sep 21 2014, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Sep 21 2014, 12:01 AM)
so true

at the end of the day work is work

but when you don't have to constantly think about how your life (and the lives of people around you, and the whole environment you live in) is being destroyed every second of every day, you feel so much more free

even if you don't think about these things they still pop-up in your life in different ways and all the willpower isn't going to help... unless you're a rich mofo who couldn't care less
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My view is that it is better to reign in hell than serve in heaven. If you have the money and can bend the system, why not? I don't earn my pay for the pleasure of others.

If I had the connections and business acumen, I damn well wouldn't be here in dusty bumf*** nowhere trying to finish a gas plant, even with the money they're paying me laugh.gif

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