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 Arsenal Street Talk, MAN 8-2 ARS | Walcott 45', V.Persie 74'

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post Aug 24 2011, 09:34 AM

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lolz at AW.. he only have 18players for Udinese game... then he said got no choice but to buy cos not enough player...

we will definately have new player...
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ Aug 24 2011, 09:34 AM)
lolz at AW.. he only have 18players for Udinese game... then he said got no choice but to buy cos not enough player...

we will definately have new player...
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yet the transfer window is closing fast on us.. unsure.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:38 AM

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i read just now we got 90million. can we buy Messi that price? tongue.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(thecoffeeguy @ Aug 24 2011, 09:07 AM)
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Done it d.. Can't believe he was once El Capitan. Soon Nasri will kiss City's. I hope Wenger knows what he's doing. In Wenger we trust.
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I knew I saw it somewhere... I thot it was in his 1st game.. nope..it was at the intro ceremoney...
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(rifasha @ Aug 24 2011, 09:38 AM)
i read just now we got 90million. can we buy Messi that price? tongue.gif
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12 mil for average player like gervinho, the rest to pay debt rclxms.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(syumul @ Aug 24 2011, 09:37 AM)
yet the transfer window is closing fast on us.. unsure.gif
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Which is why I doubt we're gonna sign anyone. Not because a deal can't be done in time, but potential sellers know how desperate we are to buy players, and therefore will bump up the price. Wenger being Wenger, will not pay over the odds for any player regardless of his stature.

I really have a strong feeling nobody's coming sad.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:55 AM

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Last night I dreamt that we won against Udinese 1 - 4. Many of us were happy, but the downside is Theo got tackled and his leg was broken. :| I hope the win does come true but the Theo incident is not.
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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ Aug 24 2011, 09:34 AM)
lolz at AW.. he only have 18players for Udinese game... then he said got no choice but to buy cos not enough player...

we will definately have new player...
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Hopefully this time we will get the players we targetted, like Zarate, Hazard, Jagielka and Mvail
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(arsengal @ Aug 24 2011, 09:55 AM)
Last night I dreamt that we won against Udinese 1 - 4. Many of us were happy, but the downside is Theo got tackled and his leg was broken. :| I hope the win does come true but the Theo incident is not.
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for the goal, YesssSSS!! but Theo, NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!... touchwood2

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post Aug 24 2011, 10:05 AM

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The way i looked at it is not wenger dun have $ to buy players, he can afford to chunk out 20-30mil for a player but the problem is the wage.
Look at nasri, he been offered 200k wage per week, if 5 yrs contract that close to 50mil. And that's only 1 player.
What happened if suddenly other players demand for this pay also?

The problem now is Arsenal can't attract other players to come in because of the pay, even they join, few years later they will leave because they got to know some clubs in england offer much better.

So in my opinion, wenger had no other ways than keep on buying youngsters with low wages and hoping them to stay after they are experience enough and hope they satisfy with their pay. It's like bring in new youngsters with wage for around 20k-30k, once their skill are improved and become the core of the team, offer them 70k-100k and hoping they will satisfy with it. But of coz there will be always some rich clubs come in to snatch the players with 200k offer.

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post Aug 24 2011, 10:14 AM

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post Aug 24 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Aug 24 2011, 10:05 AM)
The way i looked at it is not wenger dun have $ to buy players, he can afford to chunk out 20-30mil for a player but the problem is the wage.
Look at nasri, he been offered 200k wage per week, if 5 yrs contract that close to 50mil. And that's only 1 player.
What happened if suddenly other players demand for this pay also?

The problem now is Arsenal can't attract other players to come in because of the pay, even they join, few years later they will leave because they got to know some clubs in england offer much better.

So in my opinion, wenger had no other ways than keep on buying youngsters with low wages and hoping them to stay after they are experience enough and hope they satisfy with their pay. It's like bring in new youngsters with wage for around 20k-30k, once their skill are improved and become the core of the team, offer them 70k-100k and hoping they will satisfy with it. But of coz there will be always some rich clubs come in to snatch the players with 200k offer.
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yeah other clubs are paying triple our salary scale and spoil the market. but that is just for short term, there is no sustainability in this kinda business plan. Look at MC, they are willing to let adebayor go for free to save on the wages. They never think about this when they sign him? just offer some out of this world money to get him but in the end dont know wat to do with him now. laugh.gif

after the stadium is fully paid off, I believe we would have more financial muscle but I still believe we should stick with our existing principle, let the rest spend all they want. that is not the arsenal way.

only wenger can lead the team to challenge the top4 every season with such limited budget. those who is calling to replace him must be out of their mind. there is no one more suitable to lead us than wenger. While winning title is important, its not everything. we have to uphold our tradition and not to spend excessively, remember Leeds ?
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:51 AM)
Which is why I doubt we're gonna sign anyone. Not because a deal can't be done in time, but potential sellers know how desperate we are to buy players, and therefore will bump up the price. Wenger being Wenger, will not pay over the odds for any player regardless of his stature.

I really have a strong feeling nobody's coming sad.gif
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i'm in a same boat as u. By the time transfer windows closed next week we will signed NOBODY sad.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:22 AM

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think positive.. if u r owen coyle.. Gary Cahill got less than 12mths (cos now is already Aug)contract to go.. 8 days to go before lose him for free...

so will u hold up or risk of losing him for free?... you call to make..
If i were Arsene.. i will said "look, paper said i can go for Samba, Merterkasar, Jagielka or Dann... this is your last chance.."

then you have to look at who is our competitor left...

1. man utd - no need another CB
2. Chelsea - probably but they are now focus on modric only... unlikely to buy another CB unless Alex sold to Juventus as per rumours
3. Man City - maybe.. chances are 50-50
4. Liverpool - doubt to buy him.. they had spend so much.. they likely to go for cheaper option which is Scotts Dann
5. Tottenham - still havent sell a single one, so $$ x


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post Aug 24 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(rifasha @ Aug 24 2011, 09:38 AM)
i read just now we got 90million. can we buy Messi that price? tongue.gif
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if i'm not mistaken Messi's release clause is 200m pound... so no biggrin.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:23 AM

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dun worry... this media might play according to our plan...

Everton.. need $$.. last 8days to get some $$... either sell or keep firm on the price then let the bank chase for payment?... you call also

Added on August 24, 2011, 10:24 amdun look at those Kaka Benzema or Hazard.. they dun have to sell.. so chances are small...



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post Aug 24 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 24 2011, 10:22 AM)
if i'm not mistaken Messi's release clause is 200m pound... so no biggrin.gif
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if barca is willing to let him go for any amount, then it is not a problem at all.
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come one arsenal, 1 away goal vs udinese will do...
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Aug 24 2011, 10:05 AM)
The way i looked at it is not wenger dun have $ to buy players, he can afford to chunk out 20-30mil for a player but the problem is the wage.
Look at nasri, he been offered 200k wage per week, if 5 yrs contract that close to 50mil. And that's only 1 player.
What happened if suddenly other players demand for this pay also?

The problem now is Arsenal can't attract other players to come in because of the pay, even they join, few years later they will leave because they got to know some clubs in england offer much better.

So in my opinion, wenger had no other ways than keep on buying youngsters with low wages and hoping them to stay after they are experience enough and hope they satisfy with their pay. It's like bring in new youngsters with wage for around 20k-30k, once their skill are improved and become the core of the team, offer them 70k-100k and hoping they will satisfy with it. But of coz there will be always some rich clubs come in to snatch the players with 200k offer.
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yeah lah ... finally someone notice it ... i think our wages structure is somewhere around 110-120k weekly wages for the highest earner which previously held by fabregas.

therefore sometimes it's very very hard to hold on to players when other clubs come in and handing 150-185k weekly wages to our players and also on signing new players as well ... as the risk factor is very high in handing new players a BIG contract only to see they fail or did not perform as expected (n i believe we cannot afford to make such mistake especially our finances r tight) ... further more this will discomfort our current players as well to see new players coming in with BIGGER salary.

we can shout at all this player on placing MONEY on top of LOYALTY to the club ... but how many can withstand such lucrative offer ... they r earning a living as well ... n when the different is like 30-40% extra it's make a big different (not like a certain some fella leave us because of 5k lesser than the promised amount - n best of all he is from arsenal academy, a suppose arsenal fans as a child playing for his favorite club).

i have no hard feeling seeing nasri n fabregas leaving us this season ... n yes it does hurt our position in winning trophy ... but i believe can still win games without them.

anyway i guess enough of them already ... now our problem is udinese ... we have to beat them tonight ... GO GUNNERS !!!
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QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ Aug 24 2011, 10:26 AM)
if barca is willing to let him go for any amount, then it is not a problem at all.
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if messi willing to come and accept pay cut... laugh.gif
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