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 Planted Aquarium V7, not just fish with water anymore

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post Sep 27 2011, 08:10 AM

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marimo ball! hehe
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ShotGun5203 @ Sep 26 2011, 10:16 PM)
hais , i just set up my tank and thinking for put some plant and mainly is for my wild betta .. not yet put in any fish ..but no confidence ady .thinking of taking out the H.e.l.p soil ..
The packing of the soil  state there " ph drop dramaticaly ..but i google it some ppl say the ph will drop around 5.8-5.9..
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5.8 - 5.9 is really low. Normal ph would be 6.4+ i think?
Any ph lower than 6 is not that suitable for shrimps and fishes.

reference:
http://rexgrigg.com/waterchem.htm

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fertiliz...-buffering.html
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post Sep 27 2011, 12:05 PM

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Lower pH may suitable to Betta.

Wild Betta pH some can be lower than pH5.
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post Sep 27 2011, 12:18 PM

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the main problem the soil is , ph kh value not stable .. if change 20%-30% of the water the ph will raise back to 7.3~7.5 .. and 1-2 days days later will drop to 5.8-5.9 ... will this affect the fish ?

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weijie
post Sep 27 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ShotGun5203 @ Sep 27 2011, 12:18 PM)
the main problem the soil is ,  ph kh value not stable .. if change 20%-30% of the water the ph will raise back to 7.3~7.5 .. and 1-2 days days later will drop to 5.8-5.9 ... will this affect the fish ?
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When you add 20-30% of tab water with 70-80% of aquarium water (ph 5.8-5.9), then ph increase instantly.
After few days, soil regulates the water ph back to 5.8 or 5.9.

Maybe you can prepare new water with ph 5.8-5.9 before change your aquarium water. Then the ph swing will not be so great.

Is this soil will able to regulate water to 5.8-5.9 long term? or just when you first using it only?
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(ShotGun5203 @ Sep 27 2011, 12:18 PM)
the main problem the soil is ,  ph kh value not stable .. if change 20%-30% of the water the ph will raise back to 7.3~7.5 .. and 1-2 days days later will drop to 5.8-5.9 ... will this affect the fish ?
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one way is as per weijie, prepare the water and let it settle down to low ph

and as per ADVANCE SOIL, the reason to use them is to minimize your maintenance...

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Most kinds of soil can make water mildy acidic easily, but it will be a different story if you want to maintain the quality for a long term. Given the fact that soil substrates can keep for two months to six months in general and then lose their ability to keep the water pH suitable for fish, we decided to launch a more suitable medium for fish. That is ADVANCED SOIL.

ADVANCED SOIL lets you maintain the water pH mildly acidic, and even for a long term. Just follow the instructions given later and have regular but minimum maintenance.
http://www.jpc-co.jp/help/english/soil/feature.html

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ALSO, as your KH is zero... there is no buffer, thats why PH will swing if u do large water change icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 27 2011, 04:35 PM

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with my tight budget, still cant buy pH tester. currently i test with litmus paper. no color change..haha..save cost on it. will get it next paycheck..hehe

do all type off soil will have this same "problem"?

p/s: my DIY work. need to sell back the co2 diffuser. coz im using the spiral one and it need quite big pressure to diffuse the air. currently using bubble stone.
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:41 PM

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get SERA ph tester, normal one, not high range one (must read carefully b4 buy), only RM20++ nia

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Added on September 27, 2011, 5:45 pmif u wanna know more bout GH,KH and PH... google is ur best friend =)

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post Sep 27 2011, 06:31 PM

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roadtax die this month..hahaha..have to cut cost on everything. tongue.gif

will plant become a bit yellowish at first week of planting??
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post Sep 28 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Sep 27 2011, 06:31 PM)
roadtax die this month..hahaha..have to cut cost on everything. tongue.gif

will plant become a bit yellowish at first week of planting??
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Most times that happens, due to difference between water column parameters. Unless, you propagated the plant from within your tank. Google on how to properly plant, ie: with hairgrass, cut back to about 1.5 inches and clean the roots before replanting. Different fauna different methods. One safe bet, is for you to read up/research on the plant prior to getting them.

One thing you have to remember in this hobby is: STOP IMPULSE BUYING! aka kena poison LOL
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post Sep 28 2011, 04:50 PM

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"One thing you have to remember in this hobby is: STOP IMPULSE BUYING! aka kena poison LOL"


Oooohhhh....
I like this...
BUt most of us kena the racun D....
what to do...


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post Sep 28 2011, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(myak9 @ Sep 28 2011, 04:50 PM)
"One thing you have to remember in this hobby is: STOP IMPULSE BUYING! aka kena poison...
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Easier said then done... rclxub.gif
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Sep 27 2011, 04:41 PM)

Added on September 27, 2011, 5:45 pmif u wanna know more bout GH,KH and PH... google is ur best friend =)

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Hi, i can't understand well about the chart.... can u explain a bit?
Especially row number 10.
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post Sep 29 2011, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(Namgor2006 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:02 PM)
Hi, i can't understand well about the chart.... can u explain a bit?
Especially row number 10.
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http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/133-W...H-GH-KH-NO3-CO2

aerate water means water movement, specially near the surface or when u using air pump... this will bring down co2 level in the water and thus bring up ur PH (co2 will lower your ph)

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post Sep 29 2011, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Sep 29 2011, 08:04 AM)
http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/133-W...H-GH-KH-NO3-CO2

aerate water means water movement, specially near the surface or when u using air pump... this will bring down co2 level in the water and thus bring up ur PH (co2 will lower your ph)
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yeps, when co2 reaches your water surface then it will gone to air.
Thats why inline diffuser is created smile.gif
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post Sep 29 2011, 09:37 AM

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i want to buy yamato shrimp. any one selling?
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post Sep 29 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(korean_girlsclub @ Sep 29 2011, 09:37 AM)
i want to buy yamato shrimp. any one selling?
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saw few left at NA... yesterday smile.gif
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post Sep 29 2011, 03:09 PM

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how to get plants for aqua in puchong area...
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Sep 29 2011, 12:53 PM)
saw few left at NA... yesterday smile.gif
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NA mean what? sorry i dont understand

and where to buy SAE? i only can find frying fox in pasar road
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post Sep 29 2011, 04:17 PM

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natural aquatic world in Subang smile.gif they got SAE too.. but need to check its real SAE or not

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