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 Hedgehog Corner V7, Come all hedgehog lovers

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TeliLeti
post Mar 20 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(berman517 @ Mar 16 2012, 10:52 PM)
bro...ur link is broken  @@


Added on March 16, 2012, 10:55 pm
never expect it to be pocky at the 1st place as,
i thought juvenile hedgehog should be more frenly... sad.gif
so its spike do hurts huh?
i lack of courage to scope him up...
partly scare of the looks sharp quill,partly i dun wan him to stress by me... T_T


Added on March 16, 2012, 11:01 pmjust discover...he dint hiss at me...will update tonight see whether i m allow to carry him...
he is now hiding himself against the corner while i try to approach him as i remove his hiding house...lol
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The link works, yes.

Juvelines are easier to tame than adults.

QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 19 2012, 11:46 PM)
err, can someone post their hedgehog cage or home?
i want to know what box ure referring to and how big is it.
the beddings, is it pine or ceddar or corncob or aspen beddings recommended?
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I'll post it later. I have the picture already but no cable at work to transfer.

This page should answer your question: http://hedgehogcentral.com/bedding.shtml

"Cedar should most definitely not be used as a bedding material for small mammals, including hedgehogs. The plicatic acid levels are far too high in both non-cured and cured cedar chips to be overlooked as potential health risk."

"Pine on the other hand does contain high levels of abietic acid when not cured, but those levels drop significantly when the wood is properly cured. Therefore, while non-cured pine bedding should be viewed in the same light as cedar, properly cured pine is likely safe for hedgehogs if adequate ventilation of the cage is provided."

"Although not as comfortable as wood shavings, corn cob is a relatively safe bedding, but certain precautions need to be taken here as well. Problems have been reported with young male hedgehogs getting pieces of corn cob trapped in their penis sheaths, resulting in irritation, local infection and even urinary infection. If not detected soon enough this can even result in death."

Overall, avoid using pine and cedar. Don't use corncob bedding for male hedgies.

I don't use bedding for my hedgies but if you do, aspen (wood shavings) should be okay.

Thank you for doing your research before purchasing a pet.
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NOTE TO ALL:
I don't understand why people cannot do their own research before posting here.

It's fine if you did a little bit of research before asking but please don't ask questions when you know you can find the answers on the web.

Don't give me the whole "I want first-hand information" talk. If you want 'first-hand information', you do the research first, then confirm that information here.


This post has been edited by TeliLeti: Mar 20 2012, 01:25 PM
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post Mar 20 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Mar 20 2012, 01:18 PM)
be sure to get the necessities such as bedding / feed / misc before jumping the gun.such mentioned goods are transferable but if you change your mind after getting the hog, well that's just irresponsible now isn't it smile.gif
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Yea you rite. I make sure ill be a responsible owner. I already make some research bout this, and been thinking about getting one for several weeks already. Hope nothing goes wrong when i get it later.
berman517
post Mar 20 2012, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(TeliLeti @ Mar 20 2012, 01:20 PM)
The link works, yes.

Juvelines are easier to tame than adults.
I'll post it later. I have the picture already but no cable at work to transfer.

This page should answer your question: http://hedgehogcentral.com/bedding.shtml

"Cedar should most definitely not be used as a bedding material for small mammals, including hedgehogs. The plicatic acid levels are far too high in both non-cured and cured cedar chips to be overlooked as potential health risk."

"Pine on the other hand does contain high levels of abietic acid when not cured, but those levels drop significantly when the wood is properly cured. Therefore, while non-cured pine bedding should be viewed in the same light as cedar, properly cured pine is likely safe for hedgehogs if adequate ventilation of the cage is provided."

"Although not as comfortable as wood shavings, corn cob is a relatively safe bedding, but certain precautions need to be taken here as well. Problems have been reported with young male hedgehogs getting pieces of corn cob trapped in their penis sheaths, resulting in irritation, local infection and even urinary infection. If not detected soon enough this can even result in death."

Overall, avoid using pine and cedar. Don't use corncob bedding for male hedgies.

I don't use bedding for my hedgies but if you do, aspen (wood shavings) should be okay.

Thank you for doing your research before purchasing a pet.
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NOTE TO ALL:
I don't understand why people cannot do their own research before posting here.

It's fine if you did a little bit of research before asking but please don't ask questions when you know you can find the answers on the web.

Don't give me the whole "I want first-hand information" talk. If you want 'first-hand information', you do the research first, then confirm that information here.

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i think most of the ppl had made research online...
but just seeking for confirmation in this thread...
it may sound like they are asking w/o doing homework,but i believe they do. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 08:10 PM

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Haha bro, that's why I said dun wait for ppl to spoon-feed u bcoz from the question u ask all the experience owner here could have know that u didn't do ur study b4 getting them. To be honest all the question u ask is kinda simple and basic FAQ that could found in 1st page. All I can say is that luckily u r not getting a suggie or else suggie would hav die b4 u got answered in here. Hedgie though is much "durable" compare to suggie but really hope u do ur study lah, I even pm u the link de...
LuQEE
post Mar 20 2012, 09:24 PM

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ehehe, sorry.. read a few times the infos in the first page, but i still have a few question in the end,
tried learning and researching online but i guess i didnt read the hogcentral page but i did read other online materials sweat.gif sorry, im a klutz.

so, alternative for aspen beddings? they are really hard to find in Malaysia, unlike overseas(not planning to buy them overseas for the time being)
read that newspaper beddings are good too, can DIY yourself but still looking for other alternatives.
also read some ppl recommend pine shavings, but how to know which one are safe and which one are not? care to give some brands and where to get them? rclxub.gif

btw, if i installed a DIY computer fan ontop of the hedgie cage/house/box is it ok? i want to it to ventilate the air inside the box peremeters..
so constant moving and fresh air inside it, and no stuffy/stale air inside it. or is it a bad idea? nod.gif

also, after they are tamed, have any of you let them play in ure grass lawn(no pesticide/ferts used, 100% supervision within controlled area - no predators and other animals or anything that may posed threat to your hedgies?) or is this a no-no situation ? shakehead.gif
sorry for the troubles hehe

cheers~


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berman517
post Mar 20 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(nethelp @ Mar 20 2012, 08:10 PM)
Haha bro, that's why I said dun wait for ppl to spoon-feed u bcoz from the question u ask all the experience owner here could have know that u didn't do ur study b4 getting them. To be honest all the question u ask is kinda simple and basic FAQ that could found in 1st page. All I can say is that luckily u r not getting a suggie or else suggie would hav die b4 u got answered in here. Hedgie though is much "durable" compare to suggie but really hope u do ur study lah, I even pm u the link de...
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come on la...i wont say all ppl had read the introduction in page 1...
but most of them will do.like me...
for u may see as very simple and basic question,
but for ppl who never pet a hedgie before,its very tough to imagine anything until they got one for themselves smile.gif

one more thing is not about lucky,i do read all the introduction and decided to pet a hedgie rather than a suggie due to the complexity involved
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(berman517 @ Mar 20 2012, 11:55 PM)
come on la...i wont say all ppl had read the introduction in page 1...
but most of them will do.like me...
for u may see as very simple and basic question,
but for ppl who never pet a hedgie before,its very tough to imagine anything until they got one for themselves  smile.gif

one more thing is not about lucky,i do read all the introduction and decided to pet a hedgie rather than a suggie due to the complexity involved
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I apologize if my words offense u. Well at least u ask for the sake of ur hedgie.
TeliLeti
post Mar 21 2012, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 20 2012, 09:24 PM)
ehehe, sorry.. read a few times the infos in the first page, but i still have a few question in the end,
tried learning and researching online but i guess i didnt read the hogcentral page but i did read other online materials  sweat.gif  sorry, im a klutz.

so, alternative for aspen beddings? they are really hard to find in Malaysia, unlike overseas(not planning to buy them overseas for the time being)
read that newspaper beddings are good too, can DIY yourself but still looking for other alternatives.
also read some ppl recommend pine shavings, but how to know which one are safe and which one are not? care to give some brands and where to get them?  rclxub.gif

btw,  if i installed a DIY computer fan ontop of the hedgie cage/house/box is it ok? i want to it to ventilate the air inside the box peremeters..
so constant moving and fresh air inside it, and no stuffy/stale air inside it. or is it a bad idea?  nod.gif

also, after they are tamed, have any of you let them play in ure grass lawn(no pesticide/ferts used, 100% supervision within controlled area - no predators and other animals or anything that may posed threat to your hedgies?) or is this a no-no situation ? shakehead.gif
sorry for the troubles hehe

cheers~

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A number of hedgie owners use newspaper bedding (a large sheet for the floor & shredded newspaper for bedding) but personally, I don't like to expose my babies to the chemicals (ink) on the newspaper. I wouldn't let my babies eat, drink or live in a condition that I know could pose harm to them. They eat high-quality kibble, drink filtered water (think of the chlorine and germs in tap water!) and live in a clean environment (I clean the cage every morning).

You could use shredded paper as well if you have a shredding machine but they carry too much dust for my liking, which could affect their respiratory system.

You can use fleece bedding. You can find them in Tesco or textile stores. I've seen them sold in Tesco for about 20 bucks. You can cut it up and let them burrow in it.
A lot of hedgie owners overseas use fleece.

If you think fleece is too costly for you, you can use cloth as well (make sure there's no loose threads on the cloth since hedgies can catch their nails or tangle their tiny feet in them, causing a cut in blood circulation = amputation).

I found two pages online that could be really useful (second link is highly recommended):

http://www.mihog.org/cages/index.phtml

http://thistle-hedgehogs.webs.com/care.htm
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post Mar 21 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Mar 19 2012, 12:09 AM)
they love confined spaces by nature. that bowl is much bigger than a toilet roll core which hogs love.

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can't stop laughing when see this pic.

Too bad I don't have the time and space for it. sad.gif
That's why I can only admire you guys punya hogs.
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post Mar 21 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(nethelp @ Mar 21 2012, 08:29 AM)
I apologize if my words offense u. Well at least u ask for the sake of ur hedgie.
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oh no...nothing offense...just wan to clarify...@@
we are all here for the sake of our hedgie...
still much to learn from u guys~ icon_question.gif

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TeliLeti
post Mar 21 2012, 09:48 PM

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I finally found time to upload the picture of my hedgie cages.

This used to be Huffster's living space when he was my only hedgehog but my mum & I found it too difficult to clean.

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After that, I switched to the six-wheeled Toyogo box.

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For sale:

Living World Medium-Sized Igloo
(Pinto's in the picture for you to gauge the size, he's not for sale)

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LuQEE
post Mar 21 2012, 10:13 PM

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thanx so much for uploading the photos
now need to recalculate my room free space... sad.gif
he doesnt mind the small toyogo box eh? no beddings means you are cleaning it everyday? kewl~

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post Mar 21 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 21 2012, 10:13 PM)
thanx so much for uploading the photos
now need to recalculate my room free space... sad.gif
he doesnt mind the small toyogo box eh? no beddings means you are cleaning it everyday? kewl~

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If you're keeping a hedgehog in your room, you'll be greeted with the stench of its' poo & pee every morning.
Try keeping hedgies in a well-ventilated area. wink.gif

Six-wheeled Toyogo box is fine. Yes, no bedding = clean every morning. I put the hedgie on the floor every morning. While they run around, I wash, soap and dry the box. Take about half an hour for me to clean all 3 cages everyday.
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post Mar 22 2012, 12:04 AM

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^ the smell? hurm maybe i should reconsider on the diy pc fan thing? for ventilation purpose
dont want all my pets outside my room, since my parents will start yapping bla bla bla~
so i guess need to plan again

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post Mar 22 2012, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(TeliLeti @ Mar 21 2012, 11:25 PM)
If you're keeping a hedgehog in your room, you'll be greeted with the stench of its' poo & pee every morning.
Try keeping hedgies in a well-ventilated area. wink.gif

Six-wheeled Toyogo box is fine. Yes, no bedding = clean every morning. I put the hedgie on the floor every morning. While they run around, I wash, soap and dry the box. Take about half an hour for me to clean all 3 cages everyday.
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oh god...i think i got the wrong toyogo box from carefour kepong...damn it...
i guess my box is too low for my Aby...=S
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 22 2012, 12:04 AM)
^ the smell? hurm maybe i should reconsider on the diy pc fan thing? for ventilation purpose
dont want all my pets outside my room, since my parents will start yapping  bla bla bla~
so i guess need to plan again

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I keep my babies in the kitchen area next to the toilet, so I leave the toilet door open at night with the exhaust fan on to clear the smell.

It still smells pretty bad in the morning but it's not too horrible.

You could try keeping him/her in your room without the DIY fan first (I fear it might spread the smell instead). You can see how it goes the next morning. wink.gif

QUOTE(berman517 @ Mar 22 2012, 01:19 AM)
oh god...i think i got the wrong toyogo box from carefour kepong...damn it...
i guess my box is too low for my Aby...=S
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You can still return it if you have the receipt and they have the six-wheeled one?

If not, why not buy another one, drill a large hole on the side of each box and connect them with pipe?
I would advise against getting a box where the hedgehog can climb out. I've had my share of poo & pee all over the kitchen floor because Huffster will always escape from his previous cage (the first picture with the mini playpen).

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post Mar 22 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(TeliLeti @ Mar 22 2012, 08:45 AM)

I would advise against getting a box where the hedgehog can climb out. I've had my share of poo & pee all over the kitchen floor because Huffster will always escape from his previous cage (the first picture with the mini playpen).
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Whaat. Hedgies can climb up that high? shocking.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(TeliLeti @ Mar 22 2012, 08:45 AM)
I keep my babies in the kitchen area next to the toilet, so I leave the toilet door open at night with the exhaust fan on to clear the smell.

It still smells pretty bad in the morning but it's not too horrible.

You could try keeping him/her in your room without the DIY fan first (I fear it might spread the smell instead). You can see how it goes the next morning. wink.gif
You can still return it if you have the receipt and they have the six-wheeled one?

If not, why not buy another one, drill a large hole on the side of each box and connect them with pipe?
I would advise against getting a box where the hedgehog can climb out. I've had my share of poo & pee all over the kitchen floor because Huffster will always escape from his previous cage (the first picture with the mini playpen).
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are u serious?ur 1st cage looks very well guarded....= =
eh...today after bath...my hedgie clicks....

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post Mar 22 2012, 08:07 PM

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I put Sush (my hog) in my room but I don't find the smell terrible or anything . Maybe I'm just used to it .
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post Mar 23 2012, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(sidyeah @ Mar 22 2012, 02:08 PM)
Whaat. Hedgies can climb up that high?  shocking.gif
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Before I extended the height using the steel wiring, he climbed out. After I extended it, he went UNDER the playpen. rclxub.gif They're very smart little creatures.

Then I changed his cage to a Toyogo box and put in a shoe box as his hide-box. He climbed on top of the shoe box and jump out of his cage, into my female hedgehog's cage (my mum placed the two Toyogo boxes next to each other).

That's how I ended up with Chubster having three babies. rclxub.gif

He's such a troublemaker.

QUOTE(berman517 @ Mar 22 2012, 05:20 PM)
are u serious?ur 1st cage looks very well guarded....= =
eh...today after bath...my hedgie clicks....
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They have serious climbing skills, dude. Were you drying him after the bath with a cloth?
Two out of three of my hedgies hate being dried, especially Huffster.

Named your hedgehog yet?

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