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starrynight
post Nov 8 2012, 10:16 AM

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Hi babybb,

I would suggest changing his bedding to paper based bedding. Since that vitakraft bedding is in german, not sure about the wood they use so better stay away. Pine and cedar are harmful and since we don't have aspen here, that I know of - best to get paper based bedding.

I've been using Homefriends and Ultrapet both bought from PLC. I'm not sure whether it's the best brand in the market here but it should be much safer than wood shavings. The bedding might have something to do with it. Yes, it cost more too but for the sake of his health, I think die die also take out money to buy.

Tissue paper as temporary is fine but check regularly as they could get moldy when wet - pee, water etc. Unscented and uncolored tissue ya. I'll get back to you on the lump

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Nov 7 2012, 09:36 PM)
i exchanged the vitakraft guinea pig to hamster food.there is no other choice at the shop. the owner gv me the one she said sold the most - Marukan brand. so i took it, 450g for rm20. wow a bit expensive but we knw marukan is frm japan rite. is it gud? the aroma nice n my hamster likes it. starrynight, is it ok for the hamster?
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Hi tjaime, marukan is from japan but watch out for the sugar content (especially if your hamster are dwarf hamster). I once buy a biscuit treat from marukan. Smell so nice & my hammie love it but the few minutes of putting the biscuits into their plate, ants are marching into my hammie cage surrounding the biscuits. Seeing it can roughly know how sweet its the biscuits was so i quickly remove it & never give my hammie eat anymore.

QUOTE(starrynight @ Nov 8 2012, 10:16 AM)
Hi babybb,

I would suggest changing his bedding to paper based bedding. Since that vitakraft bedding is in german, not sure about the wood they use so better stay away. Pine and cedar are harmful and since we don't have aspen here, that I know of - best to get paper based bedding.

I've been using Homefriends and Ultrapet both bought from PLC. I'm not sure whether it's the best brand in the market here but it should be much safer than wood shavings. The bedding might have something to do with it. Yes, it cost more too but for the sake of his health, I think die die also take out money to buy.

Tissue paper as temporary is fine but check regularly as they could get moldy when wet - pee, water etc. Unscented and uncolored tissue ya. I'll get back to you on the lump
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Homefriends & Ultrapet.. okay got it. I think i'll switch whatever is good. Like you said it's for their health i dont mind fork out extra money as well. They are my baby smile.gif

Thanks starrynight, I'll take note of that. I always change their tissue whenever i see it's dirty. Normally 1-2days i'll change it & i used unscented and uncolored tissue too. Just the normal type of soft tissue is being used laugh.gif

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post Nov 8 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 8 2012, 10:30 AM)
Hi tjaime, marukan is from japan but watch out for the sugar content (especially if your hamster are dwarf hamster). I once buy a biscuit treat from marukan. Smell so nice & my hammie love it but the few minutes of putting the biscuits into their plate, ants are marching into my hammie cage surrounding the biscuits. Seeing it can roughly know how sweet its the biscuits was so i quickly remove it & never give my hammie eat anymore.
Homefriends & Ultrapet.. okay got it. I think i'll switch whatever is good. Like you said it's for their health i dont mind fork out extra money as well. They are my baby  smile.gif

Thanks starrynight, I'll take note of that. I always change their tissue whenever i see it's dirty. Normally 1-2days i'll change it & i used unscented and uncolored tissue too. Just the normal type of soft tissue is being used  laugh.gif
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wow .. ants ah? scary nye.

homefriends i think about RM 38 and ultrapet RM 41. I do a mix of both but homefriends more la. Cheaper ma tongue.gif

you can also give them toilet tissue to nest. my silly hammie used it to make a nest for himself and sleep inside it. when you try to find him, he's somewhere inside. you can also give the toilet roll (the core of the tissue after the tissue is used) for them to play and chew. it's safe. highly unlikely they will eat it though - if they do, remove it but paper not too bad as it's digestable.

another thing to note, not sure if it's sold here but DO NOT use COTTON bedding. It could get tangled in their limbs ( cut circulation of blood, break their legs etc) and if swallowed, it could cause lots of problem. Read once someone's experience, the hamster constipated - few days no poo, bring to vet , try to flush out .. a long string of cotton came out .. the poor hammie swallowed the cotton .. luckily he's ok de. so please stay away from cotton bedding as well.


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post Nov 8 2012, 01:07 PM

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Anyone knows any good hamster pet around Puchong?
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Nov 8 2012, 11:31 AM)
wow .. ants ah? scary nye.

homefriends i think about RM 38 and ultrapet RM 41. I do a mix of both but homefriends more la. Cheaper ma tongue.gif

you can also give them toilet tissue to nest. my silly hammie used it to make a nest for himself and sleep inside it. when you try to find him, he's somewhere inside. you can also give the toilet roll (the core of the tissue after the tissue is used) for them to play and chew. it's safe. highly unlikely they will eat it though - if they do, remove it but paper not too bad as it's digestable.

another thing to note, not sure if it's sold here but DO NOT use COTTON bedding. It could get tangled in their limbs ( cut circulation of blood, break their legs etc) and if swallowed, it could cause lots of problem. Read once someone's experience, the hamster constipated - few days no poo, bring to vet , try to flush out .. a long string of cotton came out .. the poor hammie swallowed the cotton .. luckily he's ok de. so please stay away from cotton bedding as well.
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Yups it's ants & i darn hate ants cause its attack my hammie. Even i didnt put any treat still will come 1-2 ants. So disturbing & i hate it very much. Then i take my hammie cage to clean it very very extra clean & switch place still the ants come also. Arghhh.. mad.gif

Toilet roll.. Yea y i wouldnt think of it. Thanks for sharing.. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 8 2012, 02:12 PM)
Yups it's ants & i darn hate ants cause its attack my hammie. Even i didnt put any treat still will come 1-2 ants. So disturbing & i hate it very much. Then i take my hammie cage to clean it very very extra clean & switch place still the ants come also. Arghhh..  mad.gif

Toilet roll.. Yea y i wouldnt think of it. Thanks for sharing..  rclxms.gif
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have you thought of testing your hammies for diabetes? just a thought since you said switch place de ants still come. they might be attracted to the pee.


Added on November 8, 2012, 3:44 pm
QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 8 2012, 02:12 PM)
Yups it's ants & i darn hate ants cause its attack my hammie. Even i didnt put any treat still will come 1-2 ants. So disturbing & i hate it very much. Then i take my hammie cage to clean it very very extra clean & switch place still the ants come also. Arghhh..  mad.gif

Toilet roll.. Yea y i wouldnt think of it. Thanks for sharing..  rclxms.gif
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have you thought of testing your hammies for diabetes? just a thought since you said switch place de ants still come. they might be attracted to the pee.

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post Nov 8 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Nov 8 2012, 03:44 PM)
have you thought of testing your hammies for diabetes? just a thought since you said switch place de ants still come. they might be attracted to the pee.
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Any ideal how to test it? Any other symptoms of hammie getting diabetes? unsure.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(pikeydude @ Nov 8 2012, 12:07 PM)
Anyone knows any good hamster pet around Puchong?
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hello there!

i have hamsters to give out. are you interested? pls pm me your number and i will contact you.
im from sri petaling.


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QUOTE(kingsing84 @ Oct 1 2012, 01:42 PM)
cute!!
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i have two males to give out(can keep together). they grow big already! they dont bite at all.
also, three adult hamster are grey color also need to give out. cant keep together bcos they will fight.



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post Nov 8 2012, 09:19 PM

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kingsing84, normally adult hamster wil fight,tats y i hv 5 cage to split all my hammy especially those had become mother. i ady gv some away but it keeps coming.but nw wont coz i dont hv adult male anymore. i plan to sell them to petshop eventhough they take cheaper price. vry sayang them,but cant take care so much.

babybb, so far my place no ant yet. mayb i alwaz keep them clean n i oso use homefriend bedding. nw promo rm98 for 3 bags at plc,go hv a look. tis is my 2nd time buying.vry gud n i only clean the cage 2-3 weeks once. for the marukan,reli expensive after calculation but here no choice and my hammy finish it.

anyone can tell me wic brand less sugar? wic brand high protein? i reli headache on choosing food.

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Nov 8 2012, 09:19 PM)
kingsing84, normally adult hamster wil fight,tats y i hv 5 cage to split all my hammy especially those had become mother. i ady gv some away but it keeps coming.but nw wont coz i dont hv adult male anymore. i plan to sell them to petshop eventhough they take cheaper price. vry sayang them,but cant take care so much.

babybb, so far my place no ant yet. mayb i alwaz keep them clean n i oso use homefriend bedding. nw promo rm98 for 3 bags at plc,go hv a look. tis is my 2nd time buying.vry gud n i only clean the cage 2-3 weeks once. for the marukan,reli expensive after calculation but here no choice and my hammy finish it.

anyone can tell me wic brand less sugar? wic brand high protein? i reli headache on choosing food.
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Hi tjaime, may i know what type of hamster you are having? I'm currently feeding my hammie vitakraft menu which are sugar-free recipe. This is the only brand so far i know that is sugar-free. Beside you might wanna add some oat flakes into their foods mix to give them a better digestion. I kinda admits it's very very hard to find a good quality of hamster foods at malaysia especially on vitakraft brand. Too less pets shop are carrying this brand. Even singapore have better choice than us.

Since your location at kuantan why not search some online pet shop to have it deliver to your doorstep?

http://petshack.com.my/

http://www.chubbypetsgarden.com/

http://www.facebook.com/petzone2u

Those are the online shop so far i have know. Have a look =)

Just wondering how the homefriend bedding look like? Is it this 1?

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And is it a wood pallet bedding?
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Nov 8 2012, 08:19 PM)
kingsing84, normally adult hamster wil fight,tats y i hv 5 cage to split all my hammy especially those had become mother. i ady gv some away but it keeps coming.but nw wont coz i dont hv adult male anymore. i plan to sell them to petshop eventhough they take cheaper price. vry sayang them,but cant take care so much.

babybb, so far my place no ant yet. mayb i alwaz keep them clean n i oso use homefriend bedding. nw promo rm98 for 3 bags at plc,go hv a look. tis is my 2nd time buying.vry gud n i only clean the cage 2-3 weeks once. for the marukan,reli expensive after calculation but here no choice and my hammy finish it.

anyone can tell me wic brand less sugar? wic brand high protein? i reli headache on choosing food.
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thanks for your advice!
i think i will talk to the pet shop nearby my area tomorrow.

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post Nov 9 2012, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 8 2012, 10:53 PM)
Just wondering how the homefriend bedding look like? Is it this 1?

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And is it a wood pallet bedding?
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This is made of recycled paper I think. newspaper and magazine. I'm currently using it. I gotta say this is amazing, no odour, it's very clean for them and usually after a few hours it's not really dusty. However, when you put in new bedding, basically the thing is a dust-bomb. sad.gif

I tried wood pellet too. It's good too, but I feel that hamsters loooove to dig, and with those pellets they cannot really dig. So yeah, i guess I'll stick with the recycled paper until a better one comes by? :/

p.s: You can check page 54, the photo I posted of my hamster, you can see the bedding how it looks like.

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post Nov 9 2012, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 8 2012, 10:53 PM)
Hi tjaime, may i know what type of hamster you are having? I'm currently feeding my hammie vitakraft menu which are sugar-free recipe. This is the only brand so far i know that is sugar-free. Beside you might wanna add some oat flakes into their foods mix to give them a better digestion. I kinda admits it's very very hard to find a good quality of hamster foods at malaysia especially on vitakraft brand. Too less pets shop are carrying this brand. Even singapore have better choice than us.

Since your location at kuantan why not search some online pet shop to have it deliver to your doorstep?

http://petshack.com.my/

http://www.chubbypetsgarden.com/

http://www.facebook.com/petzone2u

Those are the online shop so far i have know. Have a look =)

Just wondering how the homefriend bedding look like? Is it this 1?

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And is it a wood pallet bedding?
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I have winter white hamster now.i will try order online if cant find any gud choice here.
Yes, that is homefriend. I use it since i have hamster and i juz brought another 3 bags coz promo going to end 31 dec. So far i use it very good, no odour and clean.it is made of recycled paper. So very environment free.
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post Nov 9 2012, 09:20 AM

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Babybb, I'm not sure about testing for diabetes though. Try googling and I'll see what I can find out too.

I use homefriends since the beginning and yes, it's a little dusty. However I think my hammie like to mark his smell - busuk. Not pee smell, his smell.

Food wise, I'm even considering to ship in from spore - harry hamster but for now, I'm feeding him Bonanza Hartz - take out the corn, sunflower seed, fruit pieces .. left oni seeds ..

My hamster has a habit of eating only half of the seed, the other half keep later to throw at me or throw away
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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Nov 9 2012, 01:46 AM)
This is made of recycled paper I think. newspaper and magazine. I'm currently using it. I gotta say this is amazing, no odour, it's very clean for them and usually after a few hours it's not really dusty. However, when you put in new bedding, basically the thing is a dust-bomb.  sad.gif

I tried wood pellet too. It's good too, but I feel that hamsters loooove to dig, and with those pellets they cannot really dig. So yeah, i guess I'll stick with the recycled paper until a better one comes by? :/

p.s: You can check page 54, the photo I posted of my hamster, you can see the bedding how it looks like.
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Thanks alot jeremy for sharing. If that case i might head to PLC to have a look when i got free time might change to this as well. Now my hammie cage doesnt have bedding at all just shredded soft tissue paper which they very like to make as a nest & slept on it. Last time use vitakraft bedding but they always kick the bedding to another side & slept on the places that doesnt have bedding. I guess the bedding too rough so they doesnt like it.

Ya btw jeremy regard your hammie lump is it covered by furs also? doesnt it get any bigger nor smaller?

QUOTE(starrynight @ Nov 9 2012, 09:20 AM)
Babybb, I'm not sure about testing for diabetes though. Try googling and I'll see what I can find out too.

I use homefriends since the beginning and yes, it's a little dusty. However I think my hammie like to mark his smell - busuk. Not pee smell, his smell.

Food wise, I'm even considering to ship in from spore - harry hamster but for now, I'm feeding him Bonanza Hartz - take out the corn, sunflower seed, fruit pieces .. left oni seeds ..

My hamster has a habit of eating only half of the seed, the other half keep later to throw at me or throw away
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Thanks starrynight, i'm googling it too. Hopefully its not diabetes =(

Yes, i'm considering about that too. Even singapore have better range than us. I have sent some enquiry on the shipping info cause i needed to buy sum treats & foods which couldnt be find at here but they never bother to reply me also. My hammie are the most picky 1. He doesnt really like to eat the alfafa pallet & also green green color thingy.. everytime it get me throw alot of it. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Nov 9 2012, 08:23 AM)
I have winter white hamster now.i will try order online if cant find any gud choice here.
Yes, that is homefriend. I use it since i have hamster and i juz brought another 3 bags coz promo going to end 31 dec. So far i use it very good, no odour and clean.it is made of recycled paper. So very environment free.
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Thanks tjaime, i'm considering to change my bedding to homefriend too since so many good review that i got here. Gotta get the best for my hammie. Yea.. here msia really not many choice for hammie tho sad.gif

http://www.kohepets.com/product-all.php?cid=7&scid=63

This pets shop at spore offer wide variety hammie products & brand. I have decided to buy some stuffs that couldnt be find at KL here. I have sent enquiry to them but they never bother to reply also rclxub.gif

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post Nov 9 2012, 11:58 AM

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Just a note. Not everything sold in the pet store is good for hamsters. It's important for us to find out what is good or bad to put in our little furries cage as they wouldn't know any better.

Also don't trust shop employees word too much (not saying all). I got one or two who told me I can put two syrians together just because they want to make money.

Syrians are solitary creatures, they must not be put together in the same enclosure. It might look okay to us but it's very stressful for them to share their space. Even in the wild, they don't meet up.

Sometimes I listen to them but do self research. I met one nice employee before I bought my hamster. I was looking at wood shavings just to see option and she told me it's not good.
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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 9 2012, 09:23 AM)
Thanks alot jeremy for sharing. If that case i might head to PLC to have a look when i got free time might change to this as well. Now my hammie cage doesnt have bedding at all just shredded soft tissue paper which they very like to make as a nest & slept on it. Last time use vitakraft bedding but they always kick the bedding to another side & slept on the places that doesnt have bedding. I guess the bedding too rough so they doesnt like it.

Ya btw jeremy regard your hammie lump is it covered by furs also? doesnt it get any bigger nor smaller?
Hey no problem.
As for them kicking the bedding aside, I'm not too sure. I guess they like sleeping on the plastic surface? Cuz sometimes it's cold, probably they like it tongue.gif
My 2 winters don't do that, but my 2 Robos they kick the bedding until half the cage (where the house is) is full of bedding and the other half has no bedding haha.
My hammy lump has very little fur. I think it got smaller after he was terribly attacked by my winter. I assume it's fats la because after the incident, he became a lot "slimmer", so the lump also became smaller.
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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Nov 9 2012, 02:37 PM)
Hey no problem.
As for them kicking the bedding aside, I'm not too sure. I guess they like sleeping on the plastic surface? Cuz sometimes it's cold, probably they like it tongue.gif
My 2 winters don't do that, but my 2 Robos they kick the bedding until half the cage (where the house is) is full of bedding and the other half has no bedding haha.
My hammy lump has very little fur. I think it got smaller after he was terribly attacked by my winter. I assume it's fats la because after the incident, he became a lot "slimmer", so the lump also became smaller.
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I see.. hopefully my hammie lump are fatty lump also. Haha.. yea mine too. My robo hammie like to kick all the bedding to 1 side & sleep only which doesnt have bedding. As for the homefriend bedding i wonder how big is the pack is? Is it much? How long can it be use? =)
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QUOTE(babybb @ Nov 9 2012, 07:54 PM)
I see.. hopefully my hammie lump are fatty lump also. Haha.. yea mine too. My robo hammie like to kick all the bedding to 1 side & sleep only which doesnt have bedding. As for the homefriend bedding i wonder how big is the pack is? Is it much? How long can it be use? =)
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The pack is huge actually, and inside there's 10L of bedding. It all depends on your cage size and whether your hamster pee and poop a lot or not.
All my cages are the fish tank kind, and I'm currently using a small, medium, and large (2ft x 1ft) tank.
With the 10L I changed the small one twice, the medium one once, and the large one twice. I don't change very often too because it doesn't look dirty nor smell bad, so I'd say about 2 weeks?
Currently I think it's at RM36.90, not sure when promotion will end.
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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Nov 9 2012, 08:59 PM)
The pack is huge actually, and inside there's 10L of bedding. It all depends on your cage size and whether your hamster pee and poop a lot or not.
All my cages are the fish tank kind, and I'm currently using a small, medium, and large (2ft x 1ft) tank.
With the 10L I changed the small one twice, the medium one once, and the large one twice. I don't change very often too because it doesn't look dirty nor smell bad, so I'd say about 2 weeks?
Currently I think it's at RM36.90, not sure when promotion will end.
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Thank you jeremy.. i'm gonna go to PLC later on to buy it.. my hammie will gonna have a nice & good bedding soon =)

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