Maverick2011,

<<Maybe certain people are wired to think this way at a young age.>>

So what??

<< Other times, they just remain as they are because they are born this way. They are born to be average, which is better than born to be poor or stupid.>>

Nobody is born to be average, poor, or stupid. If you believe in your following statement

<< Everything is perfect, just the way it is.>>

Hence, you cannot use those words: average, poor, stupid... Those are VALUE JUDGMENTS by YOU.

I do not care who you are and where you from and what you used to be.

The ONLY RELEVANT question is do you seek to change and improve. If yes, you should start to THINK and SEE differently and start improving.

Past is gone and no longer relevant.

You live NOW.

Dreamer

waxppl,

You do not get IT!!

You cannot control FATE and LUCK. You can ONLY control what you do.

So, the QUESTION is VERY SIMPLE.

A) Do you CHOOSE to control what you do in order to give yourself the BEST SHOT of being successful??

B) Or, you don't??

You could fail either ways. But, I would rather fail trying than REGRET later on whether I did my best.

<<who believe everything you gain is by your own hand.>>

No, I do not believe that. I just believe in doing the best that I can all the time in order to give me the BEST SHOT in life.

Dreamer

Maverick2011,

<<You cannot force a person to improve beyond their given capability.>>

How do you know a person's capability??

You don't. Only they do.

And, you cannot force anybody to do anything anyhow. It is THEIR CHOICE.

<<If you accept the fact that not everybody has the ability to excel in any field,>>

Who ask everybody to excel in any field??

A person ONLY has to be ABOVE AVERAGE in their CHOSEN field.

<<If everybody can become above average, they will become average again.>>

Not everybody will be ABOVE AVERAGE because not everyone is willing to put in the EFFORT to be ABOVE AVERAGE in one field.

<<You may consider to see my point of view.>>

Your POV helps NO ONE.. So, why bother?? It just keep people WHINING instead of finding way to improve themselves. We do not need more WHINERS.

We should throw away POV that is NOT useful. Only keep those that are useful. That is MY POINT. If a person wants to be ABOVE AVERAGE and RICH, a person has to THINK differently. On the other hand, if a person wants to stay average, they can keep their old thinking.

Dreamer

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Added on August 28, 2011, 1:58 amwaxppl,

<<you said <<LUCK/fate has nothing to do with this>> which i don't agree >>

THIS refers to whether a person will read my thread in jobs and career forum before they pick their degree or course.

In this particular instance, LUCK has NOTHING to do with this.

A) If a person CARES about their future career, they will do the research and hence read stuff in jobs and career forum BEFORE they pick their degree.

B) Most people DO NOT CARE or NOT WILLING to put in the effort to find out before they pick their degree.

(A) and (B) has NOTHING to do with LUCK. It is a person's ATTITUDE and MENTALITY that determine whether they will find the RIGHT THING. Most people are TOO LAZY to seek. Hence, they find NOTHING. Hardworking people find more stuff and opportunities.

This is NOT LUCK. It is PERFECTLY controllable and predictable.

Dreamer




This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 28 2011, 01:58 AM

waxppl,

<< For example, I think especially many engineers out there, they might choose the course because of 3 reasons: name, money, or parents. In the end, they will see that they actually don't have any passion in engineering...>>

More than that, AVERAGE PEOPLE pick an area because it is HOT. It is NOT that they can excel in that area. Hence, they are getting nowhere in their career and/or business.

Plus, most people hop around from one hot area to another. Hence, they never FOCUS to be ABOVE AVERAGE in any area.

On the other hand, this also meant that it is NOT HARD for a person to be ABOVE AVERAGE in their chosen area. But, they have to CHOOSE WISELY, FOCUS, and EXECUTE.

Dreamer

Materazzi,

Here we go again....

AVERAGE PEOPLE's thinking.. Chasing HOT area without THINKING whether they can EXCEL in that area....

My cousin did not even enter high school.. SRJK© education only. Now, he is rich.

<<be athletes like professional tenis,soccer,golf player if want to be rich.>>

He is NOT in any of those area. But, he worked in Palm Oil business long enough that he can look at the Palm Oil tree and tell you what kind and how old the tree is.

Dreamer

realventis,

A) Bingo!! And, they were rice farmers. And, they learned the business through tried and error.

B) How many people went before me want the same thing but REFUSE to do the work and fight the university??

Materazzi,

They were Poor Rice Farmers. They REFUSE to stay as Poor Rice Farmer. Hence, they tried their hands in many things. And, they did not succeed at first.

Conversely, in Malaysia, how many people stay as Poor Rice Farmer and DID NOTHING to improve themselves??

It is the MENTALITY and ATTITUDE!!

<warren buffett said if he is born before 1930 he will be a farmer>>

He still will be an ABOVE AVERAGE farmer.

keyibukeyi,

If you CANNOT take care of yourself, how can you help OTHERS??

Bill Gate and Warren Buffet donate out 90+% of their assets. Are they selfish??

They are MORE GENEROUS than most Poor People.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 28 2011, 07:26 PM

waxppl,

I am LUCKY?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

I lost my father when I was 8 years old. My mother had to raise 6 children on her own. We starved regularly through childhood. To be AVERAGE in Poverty meant that you DO NOT SURVIVE.. We refuse to stay poor and starving.

Then, we were faced with NEP. Many people were forced out of their jobs and businesses. My batch were forced to go oversea and compete with foreigner to get college education. So, I had to work 2 part-time jobs and take 20 semester hours per semester. I slept on the average of 4 hours per day for 6 years.

You call this LUCK?? Is this LUCK?? Do you want my kind of LUCK??

Do not insult me!!

Dreamer

waxppl,

1) IMHO, those kind of people most likely WILL NOT SURVIVE....

Only changes are ETERNAL. Environment can turn favorable or hostile. It is constantly changing. Throughout life, there will be sunny days and rainy days. People that can only live on sunny day most likely will not survive.

<<Thus they think LUCK/ fate plays quite an important role in their life.>>

2) Those kind of people are CLUELESS. Even LUCK and FATE is in your favor, a person still need to prepare and know how to manage that. As I had said before, 50% of the USA lottery winner went bankrupt after 10 years.

3) In my case, I had studied and planned out the steps that I need to do if I won a lottery. Did you do that when you buy a lottery ticket?? Are you prepared if you won??

It is the ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.

FATE and LUCK may or may not favor a person like me. But, I am PREPARED to take advantage of any opportunities. Can you say this about most AVERAGE PEOPLE?? They talk about winning lottery but do they know what they need to do if they won?? Plus, what they SHOULD NOT do??

Dreamer

mercury8400,

OBVIOUSLY, you do not live in Malaysia...

Half of my parent generation were massacred by Japanese during WWII.

Those conditions that you described EXIST in Malaysia during WWII.

Dreamer

P.S.: So, what had you DONE for those people in Africa?? If you DID NOTHING, why do you TALK about them??

P.S.2: I donate money to charity. In consistent with my philosophy, I BELIEVE I should put in MY EFFORT to help people instead of just talk about it. "Can Do" attitude versus "Can Whine" attitude.

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Added on August 29, 2011, 7:13 pmMaverick2011,

1) How do you know that I had a healthy body?? I just choose NOT to glorify my suffering.

<<Most of the older generation come from poor family. They have to work long hours and food is not abundant. >>

2) You must not READ very well. We STARVED regularly through childhood. Starving = no food.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 29 2011, 07:37 PM

Folks,

For THOSE that choose to learn, do you OBSERVE just what happened in this THREAD??

We had a bunch of APOLOGISTS shown up. They are people that LIKE to give EXCUSES as to they are NOT born with superior gene and hence they cannot be successful. Or, help OTHERS to use excuses.

What I did in the past is IRRELEVANT to YOU. The ONLY RELEVANT question is is this method useful to YOU??

Whatever happened to YOU in the past is IRRELEVANT to. The ONLY QUESTION is can you CHOOSE to THINK differently and start improving??

There is one more thing that I had not talked about. It is called PACING.

Life is a marathon. I am not showing you a "Get Rich Quick" scheme. And, you DO NOT kill yourself in the process of improving. All you have to do is DO SOMETHING everyday.

1) THINK DIFFERENTLY. Have a "Can Do" attitude. What can I do to improve my chances?? What is the GAP??

2) Have a plan.

3) Do a little bit everyday. Spend 10 to 15 minutes everyday to focus and learn something that you want to be VERY GOOD at.

4) You will get better. Eventually, you will be much better than AVERAGE PEOPLE.

(1) to (4) does not require you to have SUPERIOR GENE. It requires YOU to believe that

A) You can improve

B) You are committed to put in the effort.

EXCUSES will not get you there.

Dreamer

[quote=pUpUnOOb,Aug 29 2011, 08:50 PM]
Bill Gate and Warren Buffet donate out 90+% of their assets. Are they selfish??

They are MORE GENEROUS than most Poor People.

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they are dam rich...d poor can AFFORD to be generous...isnt it an unfair comparison

[/quote]

pUpUnOOb,

That is a bunch of BS.

There are poor people out there that are GENEROUS too.

Generosity has nothing to do with how rich a person is.

Dreamer

Benjamin911,

WHY do you have to get caught up in DUALITY??

If a person doing a jobs that they LOVE, they will be HAPPY. A happy person will be more productive and lead to higher income and more wealth. Conversely, a person that is WEALTHY has the FREEDOM to decide if and when how much that they want to work. Average person does not have the choice.

Once, I told my employer that I want to work from home for a few years. If they do not accept that, I will quit. They let me worked at home and spent more time with my family. I slowed down my career path because of that. But, I had the FREEDOM to do stuff like that.

Ditto, I took a lower paying job because I prefer the work that I am doing now. I do not need the money. I can afford the pay cut. This is FREEDOM..

Money is a good servant but a lousy master. Money is just a TOOL to get what you want. YOU decide what to do with your money.

Dreamer

Folks,

If you believe that a person can live a simple average ENOUGH life, I am sorry to tell you that this is NOT happening. In fact, with globalization and increased competition, the MIDDLE is getting crushed. In the middle, the salary increase cannot keep up with inflation. Hence, they are sliding down to be poor.

There are very little stability too. In your generation, on the average, you will change jobs and / or career at least 10 times before you retired. Then, you will most likely have long period of unemployment and under-employment.

Read and look around in job and career forum. You see excessive amount of whining.. How many of those so called AVERAGE THINKING people is HAPPY?? They are NOT HAPPY with their current situation. But, instead of changing their ATTITUDE and MENTALITY to seek improvement, they WHINE instead. They blame it on everything else. Instead of asking a SIMPLE QUESTION, "what can I do??".

I been through many rounds of layoff. And, every time, I heard people complain about their loans and mortgages. My question to them was SIMPLE. If you REALLY do not like your loan and mortgages, why don't you do something about that?? Skip your Starbuck's at least once per week. Save that money to pay off the loan quicker. Then, they start BS about how many years that will take and so on. More whining.. My answer to them is if you do NOTHING, it will not get better.

ATTITUDE and MENTALITY. Start to THINK differently. Then, your life will change.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 30 2011, 07:18 PM

kelvin_tan,

Thank you for your appreciation..

That provide an easier and simpler explanation to what I am trying to say.

Dreamer

Folks,

MOI

M = Motivation

O = Organization

I = Innovation

To be DIFFERENT and ABOVE AVERAGE, you need a "Leap of Faith". You do not know whether your additional effort will matter or not. But, you are willing to try on FAITH. So, you change your MENTALITY and ATTITUDE.

When you face a problem and / or challenge, instead of looking at what you CANNOT DO, you ask what you "Can Do". Even if you cannot do anything now, you ask what you can do in future.

Every time, you SUCCEEDED in achieving a small success on this new ATTITUDE, you write it down. This motivates you further. Eventually, this becomes part of you. This is M = Motivation

O = Organization. This applies to environment / habit. You creates a set of environment / habit / procedure to keep you going. For example, you want to have better English, you read a few pages of a book everyday. Ditto, you want more money, you save RM1 per day. Make it into a habit. Hence, it is fully automatic.

Ditto, stay away from WHINERS!!

I = Innovation. How to find a better way to improve?? Can you think better?? How to learn faster?? Beside solving problem, how to solve problem faster?? Why some people can see and think better?? How can I learn from them??

Besides learning, learn how to learn. Learn how to think.

Try doing thing differently, find a different way.

http://www.betterworldbooks.com/

Some people talked about poor and hungry people in Africa. I buy books from this web site. They donate their earning to help literacy in Africa. I save money. They help people. It is a win-win situation.

Dreamer

Folks,

Question:


Can I learn to be SMARTER??

A) No, you are BORN to be either to be SMART Or DUMB. You cannot be smarter.

B) Since you are not Einstein, Bill Gate, and whatever, why bother to try since you can NEVER be the SMARTEST??

C) Yes, I can learn to be SMARTER and BETTER than what I am now. I just want IMPROVEMENT and I want to be BETTER. I may or may not be the SMARTEST in the world but that is IRRELEVANT. As long as I improve everyday, I will get BETTER and I will be much BETTER in the future.

What are YOUR ANSWER to this question??

Dreamer

Folks,

Is answer C = the MAJORITY??

Look back at this thread, how many people shown up and based on their post, you can see that they are (A) and (B). They are just TOO EMBARRASSED to post on this thread anymore.

If your answer is C, DO NOT WHINE!!!

Dreamer

Folks,

Common sense is HIGHLY uncommon. We are blinded by our own ego. We PREFER the world to change for us so that it is EASIER for us to live. But, that is NOT how the world is. We could ONLY change and control ourselves.

Let's take some SIMPLE example.

If you are an EXPERT in Bah Ku Teh and you happened to live in a place that all the people are Muslims. Do you

A) Complained that they are LOUSY customers and why don't they change??

B) Adapt your cooking to use Chicken instead.

C) If you CANNOT adapt your cooking, you move to somewhere else??

IMHO, a salary worker and a business is THE SAME. You are selling service and product and get money in return. Customer is NEVER wrong!! Most people will do (A). They will WHINE that the world in unfair and people are STUPID and so on.. But, in the end, nobody buy anything from you and your business is still going to hell.

So, if you have a skill and / or product that your current environment do not buy and / or appreciate, you either change or move away. Complaining about how the environment is UNFAIR will not make a different.

Now, let's take an EXTREME example, if you SPENT 10 years of your life to create a product and technology, then, in the end, you find out that NOBODY want to buy your product. Do you do (A), (B), or ©??

On the other hand, what is there to stop a person to TEST MARKET their product / skill / service before they FULLY COMMIT their life to something?? The answer is NOTHING.

The WORLD is unforgiven and brutal. YOU have to learn and sense the TREND. YOU have to adapt and go with the FLOW. It does not care if you mess up and focus on UNMARKETABLE skill and product. YOU have to find out what sells.

Ditto, in the IT world, people are changing for Oracle database to XYZ database and you are Oracle expert. YOU have to find out before it is too late. Nobody else will do it for you.

I had survived multiple recessions. I had 10+ jobs across 20+ years. My jobs range from help desk, software engineer, sales and marketing to network engineer. I transition from technical to sales / marketing and back. I had to sense the incoming recession and trend and adapt myself to survive.

Complaining about how the world is UNFAIR may make you feel good. But, it does not bring food to my dinner table for my family.

Dreamer

Tigerr,

You MEANT you have not seen this kind of STUPID behavior over and over again in this forum??

THINK and READ carefully!!!

<<my key point is he does not have to close his shop and move to other places or stop.>>

You MEANT if a person is in a MUSLIM area that NOBODY buy bakuteh, he should not close his shop and move. The person should continue to STARVE his own family and die instead.

30+ years ago, NEP started. Because of that, certain GLC stop promoting their non-BUMI IT folks. In this case, those people worked in Airline Reservation. And, this GLC is the ONLY one in this country that use their expertize.

So, those people had 3 options.

A) Move to other country that can use their expertize. Those people became VERY SUCCESSFUL and RICH.

B) Start over in other IT area / industry. They paid a high price because all their KNOWLEDGE and EXPERTIZE in Airline Reservation meant NOTHING in other industry.

C) Stay back and passed over for promotion, pay raise, bonuses and so on for 30+ years until they retired.

Would you choose ©?? Beside sacrificing your own FUTURE, your family will suffer along with you.

Ditto on (B). Or, (A) would seen to be a more logical choice.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 2 2011, 10:18 AM

Folks,

The PROBLEM with an ABOVE AVERAGE person is after spending MANY MANY years perfecting your skill and capability, you NEED an environment where YOUR TALENT and CAPABILITY can be PAID.

The DIFFERENCE between a NORMAL environment versus OPTIMAL environment is MANY times over in pays and return. YOU can no longer play in a SMALL market and EXPECT a HUGE return.

So, if you CHOOSE to be ABOVE AVERAGE and NOT SETTLING to be normal, YOU need to find an environment where you can be rewarded.

Dreamer