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TSky_khor
post Nov 8 2006, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 8 2006, 11:16 AM)
Bank make a hell lot more money when interest rate goes up.
since bank is a business, base lending rate will always > interest rate. means if FD interest goes up, the loan interest will goes up as well (i guess). further more ppl who dun do med-high risk investment will pour their money to the bank FD.

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post Nov 8 2006, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 8 2006, 11:23 AM)
since bank is a business, base lending rate will always > interest rate. means if FD interest goes up, the loan interest will goes up as well (i guess). further more ppl who dun do med-high risk investment will pour their money to the bank FD.
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Ky_khor,

You are wrong in your sequence of how things usually happens. Bank always raise BLR and credit card interest rate first. Then, wait for a few months before they raise FD and saving rate. So, bank always makes a lot of money first for a few months when interest rate goes up.

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post Nov 8 2006, 12:39 PM

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Normally, what methodology u guys practise when looking for individual stocks to buy??
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post Nov 8 2006, 02:20 PM

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omg is the market really that good ?
i just called my broker wanted to place an order for the new call warrant on MPLANT which is only open for sale today, and heck, it was over-subscribed by lunch time sweat.gif
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post Nov 8 2006, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 8 2006, 02:20 PM)
omg is the market really that good ?
i just called my broker wanted to place an order for the new call warrant on MPLANT which is only open for sale today, and heck, it was over-subscribed by lunch time sweat.gif
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post Nov 8 2006, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 8 2006, 02:20 PM)
omg is the market really that good ?
i just called my broker wanted to place an order for the new call warrant on MPLANT which is only open for sale today, and heck, it was over-subscribed by lunch time sweat.gif
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hey i thought you cannot trade ?
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post Nov 8 2006, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Nov 8 2006, 05:42 PM)
hey i thought you cannot trade ?
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We can but have to disclose every transaction to internal audit sweat.gif
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post Nov 10 2006, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(pjstreet@com @ Nov 8 2006, 12:39 PM)
Normally, what methodology u guys practise when looking for individual stocks to buy??
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I never buy share before, but I think is like this:
The share must be active.
Study the financial statements, know about their profit, liabilities, liquidity, EPS and PE.
Look for the dividen distribution history.
Look for the future plan of the company.
Get know well about their current activities and news.
Study the share price to determine its over valued or under valued.
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post Nov 10 2006, 12:58 PM

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Several criteria are the key in analyst a company for share trading purposes, generalise only.

1. Its management
2. Earning aka PE ratio (forward PE)
3. Asset or NTA of the company, some company did hold a lot of assets which is undervalued in paper (like KLK)
4. Prospect of the company especially its core business
5. Dividen yield
6. Liquidity of the share
7. Healthy cash flow, a company may earn/profit a lot but huge and pro0longed negative cashflow will bring down the company also, the better exmple is TNB, profit a lot but facing serious cashflow problem.

A share is active or not is less important since if you are talking of investment rather than speculative, the trading volume won't be so important unless you buy a lot. Some quality counters only trade a few each day but bare in mind if the liquidity is poor, it is easy to be manipulated, also can't attract fund to buy it.

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post Nov 10 2006, 10:36 PM

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1) "Trust but verify". Remember Enron.

Please noted that even in USA, you have accounting scandal. And, sometimes the numbers reported in quarterly and annual reports are lies. So, do not be so confident that the numbers you see in those reports are REAL.

2) Remember UEM.

Before anyone buy stock in Malaysia, they need to remember and study the whole affair about UEM reverse takeover of Renong. They need to ask themselves whether this can happen again. Please noted that 50+% of KLSE is owned by GLC and GLIC. Government is the majority share holders of most companies.

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Above mentioned are quite good company also but one need to mention is Bjtoto although giving out high dividen yield, its management previously has previous bad track of record using bjtoto's huge cash flow to financial its parent company debt through inter-company loan while Bj-toto get none from interest from it. (if not mistaken in the range of RM800mil). Although it is not against law but is totally unfair to the minority shareholders.

Bj-toto now basically is a 'empty' company after 2 round of capital repayment but fortunately its business nature generate huge pile of cash every year which support its high dividen.
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post Nov 13 2006, 05:03 PM

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@mod,

I would like to suggest this thread be split to:
1. Investment -General (Comparison between instruments & Strategy)
2. Investment - Unit Trust
3. Investment - Stock

There are lots of good discussion here, but at the later post its too much on focus stock.

Just my 2 cents...
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post Nov 13 2006, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(vergas @ Nov 13 2006, 05:03 PM)
@mod,

I would like to suggest this thread be split to:
1. Investment -General (Comparison between instruments & Strategy)
2. Investment - Unit Trust
3. Investment - Stock

There are lots of good discussion here, but at the later post its too much on focus stock.

Just my 2 cents...
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I STRONGLY agree...if this thread can be separated to more specific categories, it's easier for LYN forumers to follow the discussions. Hope the admin or moderators can do something on this...
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post Nov 14 2006, 05:21 PM

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How bout property investment?? blink.gif Suggest to move the Property Investment Tread at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=346639 to here also. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 14 2006, 07:27 PM

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leekk8
post Nov 15 2006, 10:17 AM

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I support the suggestion that Admin can open a specific forum to discuss about finance and investment. I think maybe Dreamer or Cherroy can be good advisers in investment topics...
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post Nov 15 2006, 10:59 AM

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open new subforum better la cos all discuss here very hard
TSky_khor
post Nov 15 2006, 12:13 PM

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i suggest http://invest.lowyat.net lol
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post Nov 15 2006, 03:29 PM

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OK...i just buy up this domain. If lowyat interested can buy from me. laugh.gif

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