Investment (Local and International), Everything About Investment
Investment (Local and International), Everything About Investment
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Sep 28 2006, 11:23 PM
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4,477 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Bandar Utama,PJ,Subang Jaya, TTDI |
guys..if i have rm3k to invest, what should i invest in ? i dont mind low risk low return stuff.. no FD please
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Sep 29 2006, 01:09 AM
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Sep 29 2006, 02:59 AM
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1,175 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Borneo Island |
I only loss around usd100-300 per month compare to what i gain..Rite now,i'm a full time forex trader..I close my trade when my trade is below 25 pips..i trade 5 pair in a day..gain around 100 pips..
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Sep 29 2006, 07:03 AM
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15,855 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(apis @ Sep 29 2006, 02:59 AM) I only loss around usd100-300 per month compare to what i gain..Rite now,i'm a full time forex trader..I close my trade when my trade is below 25 pips..i trade 5 pair in a day..gain around 100 pips.. Apis,Good for you. You have the discipline to limit your loss. This is NOT for everyone. Even just on normal stock trading, I was too greedy and I lost half of my life savings because of that. It was a very expensive lesson. Dreamer |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:10 AM
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1,059 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: KL |
QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Sep 28 2006, 11:23 PM) guys..if i have rm3k to invest, what should i invest in ? i dont mind low risk low return stuff.. no FD please If you have time and interested, you can study a bit about some big firm financial status...choose the best 1 and buy its stock. High dividend yield stocks are high recommended.Mutual fund is another option, but there will be some fee charged, so you must understand the fee mechanism of mutual fund before you invest. |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:13 AM
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1,059 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: KL |
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 29 2006, 07:03 AM) Apis, Yes, discipline is very important is investment. Set a limit for win or loss...don't be greedy, then you can survive in the market and earn money. I think , if you just invest with the money that you have, I believe it's not easy to get bankrupt, just don't borrow money to invest. Save your emergency fund, use all your extra money to invest...Good for you. You have the discipline to limit your loss. This is NOT for everyone. Even just on normal stock trading, I was too greedy and I lost half of my life savings because of that. It was a very expensive lesson. Dreamer |
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Sep 29 2006, 01:23 PM
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297 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Mainland, Penang |
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Sep 29 2006, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 28 2006, 11:22 PM) Stock market is a giant casino. You see people at the casino observing, watching, placing their bets, some win, some lose.I have a couple of questions: 1) What's the inflation rate like? never mind, found it on previous page, it's 3% 2) What's the interest rate for bonds? 3) What's a good savings/investment vehicle for constant top-up with low risk and does not require monitoring? I'm just gonna pump-in a small amount of money (RM100, RM200) each month and let compound interest do the job. I am not looking to pull out anytime soon and would like to 'forget' about the money I put in (meaning I won't touch them). This post has been edited by Dannyl: Sep 29 2006, 03:19 PM |
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Sep 29 2006, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Sep 29 2006, 03:13 PM) Stock market is a giant casino. i guess only ppl who're losing money call it a casino. other ppl dun. |
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Sep 29 2006, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Sep 29 2006, 03:32 PM) In fact, is the stock market is a casino or not, depends on the investors. If you just pick the stock without doing any research or study, then it's gambling, just depends on your luck. If you play contra, meaning buy stock even you don't have so much money, then you're borrowing money from ah long to gamble. If you put effort to study and do research about the companies before you buy the stock, and take this as long term investment, then you will get the returns. |
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Sep 29 2006, 05:35 PM
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25,802 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang |
For speculators
Stock market definitely is the casino, they just buy and sell the 'price' and gain and lose from it. Whether it is A company or B company, who's care, the important is that the syndicate will push the 'price higher' so that I can gain from it. If really want to speculate, better go for the futures market which is more volatile and lesser cost though I won't recommend people to speculate, once awhile is ok but not on long term basic. For investors The stock market is another investment tool and invest into a good managed company that will yield got dividen while capital appreciate together with the company growth. But sadly to say, most of the KLSE retailers are at the speculators side, often you heard some asking got tips or not. For those playing contra and using margin at long term basic, it is just like suicide. This post has been edited by cherroy: Sep 29 2006, 05:38 PM |
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Sep 29 2006, 08:29 PM
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15,855 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 29 2006, 05:35 PM) For speculators Cherroy,Stock market definitely is the casino, they just buy and sell the 'price' and gain and lose from it. Whether it is A company or B company, who's care, the important is that the syndicate will push the 'price higher' so that I can gain from it. If really want to speculate, better go for the futures market which is more volatile and lesser cost though I won't recommend people to speculate, once awhile is ok but not on long term basic. For investors The stock market is another investment tool and invest into a good managed company that will yield got dividen while capital appreciate together with the company growth. But sadly to say, most of the KLSE retailers are at the speculators side, often you heard some asking got tips or not. For those playing contra and using margin at long term basic, it is just like suicide. IMHO, there is only one stock worth buying in the whole KLSE. Everything else is pure speculation. But, then again, I admit I have NO idea how to invest in Malaysia stock market. With 50% of the KLSE owned by GLC and GLIC, government action affects everything. I do not know how to read/forecast government's action since it is not business driven. Dreamer |
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Sep 29 2006, 10:58 PM
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Still,if the stock market is driven by speculators as you claim,the liquidity is still very terrible.The amount of market participants is very poor.
Even the FKLI at the moment,is starting become as boring as the stock market. |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:44 PM
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297 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Mainland, Penang |
QUOTE(Dannyl @ Sep 29 2006, 03:13 PM) Stock market is a giant casino. You see people at the casino observing, watching, placing their bets, some win, some lose. 2. Depend on period to maturity. Longer/higher.I have a couple of questions: 1) What's the inflation rate like? never mind, found it on previous page, it's 3% 2) What's the interest rate for bonds? 3) What's a good savings/investment vehicle for constant top-up with low risk and does not require monitoring? I'm just gonna pump-in a small amount of money (RM100, RM200) each month and let compound interest do the job. I am not looking to pull out anytime soon and would like to 'forget' about the money I put in (meaning I won't touch them). 3. You can try investing in fixed income fund. |
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Sep 30 2006, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 29 2006, 08:29 PM) IMHO, there is only one stock worth buying in the whole KLSE. never try or even think about it before, but how can we buy stock/fund of other country?unless i'm wrong, i think i read somewhere that Unit Trust company investment income ranking this year: 1. southern bank 2. OSK-UOB 3. TNT This post has been edited by ky_khor: Sep 30 2006, 07:48 AM |
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Sep 30 2006, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Sep 30 2006, 07:38 AM) never try or even think about it before, but how can we buy stock/fund of other country? Ky_khor,unless i'm wrong, i think i read somewhere that Unit Trust company investment income ranking this year: 1. southern bank 2. OSK-UOB 3. TNT You cannot do it but I can since I am an US PR. This is what I buy: VSMGX No load Annual expense = 0.25% It consists of 4 funds 1 Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund 35.1% -> Cover all US stock market 2 Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund 29.9% -> Cover whole US bonds 3 Vanguard Asset Allocation Fund 24.9% -> Move between total stock or total bond depending on adviser. 4 Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund 10.1% -> MSCI EAFE Index -> Index of the rest of the world excluding USA. Vanguard REIT Index Fund Investor Shares (VGSIX) REIT of whole USA Real Estate No Load Annual expense = 0.21% Compare to the options that I have in USA, only one stock is worth buying in Malaysia. Dreamer |
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Sep 30 2006, 11:18 AM
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1,175 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Borneo Island |
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Sep 30 2006, 11:43 AM
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25,802 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang |
QUOTE(mobiusone @ Sep 29 2006, 10:58 PM) Still,if the stock market is driven by speculators as you claim,the liquidity is still very terrible.The amount of market participants is very poor. quite agree, the FKLI is some how very quiet recent few months mainly due to sluggish performance from the cash market. Not to mention the SSF which has been dead and buried now. Even the FKLI at the moment,is starting become as boring as the stock market. Individual will find little options to invest abroad, but if really interested can invest into the some global fund which act as feeder fund that invest into oversea fund particularly in US. Almost all global fund outperform local equity fund due to sluggish performance of KLSE currently if you look for 1-2 years performance ranking. |
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Sep 30 2006, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Sep 30 2006, 07:38 AM) never try or even think about it before, but how can we buy stock/fund of other country? Just sign up with a US broker and register your self as a Non-Resident Alient. You will need to submit a copy of IC and relevant documents. Fund the account and you are all set to trade(buy /sell> make/ lose money). Oh and I believe profit from trading in US are not taxable when you move them back to Malaysia. For stocks dividend, US gov will tax you 30%.unless i'm wrong, i think i read somewhere that Unit Trust company investment income ranking this year: 1. southern bank 2. OSK-UOB 3. TNT This post has been edited by whtrader: Sep 30 2006, 01:02 PM |
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Sep 30 2006, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(apis @ Sep 30 2006, 11:18 AM) i use try quite a no of TA.But i prefer using meta trader 4.The time frame is not spesific.I trade only when i saw a reversal sign,Go only for long trade.. You must be using TA for reversal sign ,if not how do you know it will reverse? Gaze stars check horoscope |
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