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TSxandras
post Aug 19 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 19 2011, 07:23 PM)
what is the range fall under malaysia?
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Malaysian wan Edge & Edge Sport fully synthetic, Magnatec semi synthetic only available in 10W-40 & 10W-30.. Overseas Magnatec got 5w-40 fully synthetic.

QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 19 2011, 07:50 PM)
ZenGTMM
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"Exhaust Setup"

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I like u reply.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 19 2011, 08:48 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQRq1HKLEQ...player_embedded

waja cps vs waja campro vs inspira 4b10 vs neo cps

dunno inspira is manual or auto lo..if is our PE,sure kena tarik at least 4 tiang lampu lo doh.gif
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U see any point in this race? What they trying to prove? Waja CPS (125 BHP), Campro (110 BHP), 4B10 (140 BHP), Neo CPS (125 BHP).

Btw there are news that there will be a Inspira 'Evo' coming out soon.. Using Lancer Ralliart's engine, which is a detuned 4B11T Evo X engine. I think it'll probably be placed at around RM 180-200k. Not good for Malaysian roads tho, and definitely not good for Mitsubishi's reputation.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 09:26 PM)
Malaysian wan Edge & Edge Sport fully synthetic, Magnatec semi synthetic only available in 10W-40 & 10W-30.. Overseas Magnatec got 5w-40 fully synthetic.
I like u reply.. hmm.gif
U see any point in this race? What they trying to prove? Waja CPS (125 BHP), Campro (110 BHP), 4B10 (140 BHP), Neo CPS (125 BHP).

Btw there are news that there will be a Inspira 'Evo' coming out soon.. Using Lancer Ralliart's engine, which is a detuned 4B11T Evo X engine. I think it'll probably be placed at around RM 180-200k. Not good for Malaysian roads tho, and definitely not good for Mitsubishi's reputation.
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i think mitsubishi wont so stupid to let proton use their evolution engine gua doh.gif if like tat,sure many loyal fans of mitsubishi will fxxx the mitsubishi vmad.gif
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post Aug 19 2011, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 19 2011, 09:30 PM)
i think mitsubishi wont so stupid to let proton use their evolution engine gua doh.gif if like tat,sure many loyal fans of mitsubishi will fxxx the mitsubishi vmad.gif
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They said they allowed Proton to use their 4B11 engine, never say Proton cannot modify or tune the car & engine in whatsoever way. Proton already meddled with the suspension, so what are the odds of them turbocharging the car once their R&D with CPS Turbo is done with? wink.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 9:38 pmBtw many Mitsubishi fans already farked Mitsubishi for letting Proton rebadge the Lancer.

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 19 2011, 09:38 PM
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post Aug 19 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 09:26 PM)
Malaysian wan Edge & Edge Sport fully synthetic, Magnatec semi synthetic only available in 10W-40 & 10W-30.. Overseas Magnatec got 5w-40 fully synthetic.
I like u reply.. hmm.gif
U see any point in this race? What they trying to prove? Waja CPS (125 BHP), Campro (110 BHP), 4B10 (140 BHP), Neo CPS (125 BHP).

Btw there are news that there will be a Inspira 'Evo' coming out soon.. Using Lancer Ralliart's engine, which is a detuned 4B11T Evo X engine. I think it'll probably be placed at around RM 180-200k. Not good for Malaysian roads tho, and definitely not good for Mitsubishi's reputation.
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planning to get fully synthetic 10-30, which one provide such? edge or magnatec?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 08:49 AM)
That's my trusted accessory shop & the owner is my friend. U say leh? The R3 bumper u saw with foglamp is the Neo type. Currently there are 2 types, the Gen2 R3 type and the Neo R3 type. I suppose u never specified exactly which type u wanted to them?
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owh...i thought R3 = the neo type
i've ordered d neo r3 type + R3 = RM350
thanks for introducing me d shop! rclxms.gif
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Oh yeah, and I never shared my story of test driving the Honda Insight yet..

My verdict:

As a true petrolhead (would love to declare myself as one, but I haven't own an Alfa yet. Shame.), I often cringe at the sight of hybrids on the road. Especially Malaysian roads. I couldn't help but to notice that they all share the same dull, not-so-fast-back styling. Take the Toyota Prius & Honda Insight for an instance. The 'hybrid shape' usually explains how boring hybrids are; and Lexus joined the market with their quintessentially designed, rather pleasant looking CT200h. Doesn't matter to me, still a hybrid anyway. It's just another Prius in Lexus' clothing. Although it does make me squirm whenever one drives past me. Yes, I'm a sucker for Lexus (Lexuses? Lexi? Lexera?). The CT200h shares the similar engine, similar electric motor with its' cousin, and that gives a similar combined output. Also not to mention that I was once marinated, dusted, grilled & smoked in my stock Persona by a Prius, driven by a lady. At 180 KM/h. On the ever bumpy Duke Highway.

Let's get back to the main point, shall we? I wasn't too keen to test drive the Insight at first, because I'm still against the whole hybrid idea. But because it was a sincere offer made by my friend who recently acquired her new Insight, and me being the worst critic among my peers when it comes to cars, I reluctantly accepted the offer. Yes, I was still very skeptical at this point, but not until I was greeted with a warm welcome by a nice 'beep' when the door was opened. Could've been worse.

I must say I was rather pleased by the arrangement of buttons & dials on the dashboard in the car. A nice-to-the-touch CD player with grey brushed metal finishings; can't help but to perpetually run my fingertips on the headunit & caress it. Am I the only one with a fetish for brushed finishings here?

Digital speedo display. Hmm. Nice touch, but it wouldn't give as much thrill as watching the needle rise on a conventional analogue. It's a 1,339 CC 4-banger with an ELECTRIC MOTOR. Wouldn't do that quick, anyway.
It weighs around the same as a Persona, mind you.

I hate it when car manufacturers, especially the big ones like Honda decide to use cheap plastics for the door trims in their cars. The door trim feels REALLY cheap, very close in quality to that of the first generation Myvi. As if they were made out of recycled plastic bags. It doesn't feel like a sub RM 100k car to the receptors on my fingertips. Come to think of it, the Myvi's door panel were less flimsy compared to the Insight's. Even the interior of the slightly cheaper, new Honda City is a notch above. Sound insulation was O.K., but Honda could've done better.

And so, what's the drive like?
The stepless CVT gearbox provided the car with a rather smooth acceleration. 0-100 in about 11.4 seconds as recorded by the car owner who was sitting beside me at that time, a far cry from the manufacturer's claim of 10-ish seconds. Still faster than many cars today. Lesson learnt; do not EVER mess with hybrids as they have enough torque from the electric motors to smoke you from standstill. Comfort was acceptable on paved surface, although on certain rough road patches you could feel the details on the road; stones, tiny cracks, holes. At one point I actually thought I felt the car went over an engraving on the road that reads: 'MRR2, 1992'.

Honda should've painted the ECO button in red instead of green with fine printings on it, in bolded capital that says: 'Do not press.'. With the ECO mode activated, it was a pain to sit in the car through the traffic under the ever blazing, scorching sun on our way to Pavilion as it reduces the climate control (the mighty invention that we Malaysians worship and recognize as 'air-cond') fan speed and recirculates the air in the car more. Might be a rather nice implementation to other parts of the world, but not here in Malaysia. And as smooth as the engine is (a plus point for the Insight), it is rather irritating when it constantly stops and restarts in a jam when your foot is on the brakes. The ECO mode also limits the power and torque, which is a rather brilliant way to reduce fuel consumption, but there isn't enough power to get the car up to a cruising speed once the traffic cleared.

Overall, the Insight is a rather decent car, but what you get doesn't actually justify what you paid for. Probably paying extra for that electric motor and battery, but the interior should've been better, and comfort can still be improved. Haven't actually tried to thrash the car around corners to test the handling, but from city maneuvers, it's easy to tell that the car wouldn't slip through corners like a snake. Steering was extremely light, so light that I had to constantly remind myself that I'm holding a steering wheel that is ACTUALLY connected to the front wheels, as opposed to my cousin's 1994 Proton Saga Iswara. Trying to park that Saga in a parallel parking box is equivalent to working out at the gym for 30 minutes with no membership fees; I can skip gym altogether! Point being, if you have RM 100k to splurge on a car, go for the new City or the Jazz instead.

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 19 2011, 11:35 PM
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post Aug 20 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 09:37 PM)
They said they allowed Proton to use their 4B11 engine, never say Proton cannot modify or tune the car & engine in whatsoever way. Proton already meddled with the suspension, so what are the odds of them turbocharging the car once their R&D with CPS Turbo is done with? wink.gif


Added on August 19, 2011, 9:38 pmBtw many Mitsubishi fans already farked Mitsubishi for letting Proton rebadge the Lancer.
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I think mitsubishi dont allow proton to touch the powertrain for inspira. Read some where that proton engineers intend to tune the engine performance slightly higher (as somehow the 4B11 mivec gives less power then what it is giving in lancer). But mitsubshi doesnt allow it. And read in inspira club .... seems like earlier batches of inspira if got problem related to the engine, proton will have mitsubshi technician look at it rather themselves...

So i doubt think proton will be turbocharging the 4B11 themselves (without mitsubishi participation).
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post Aug 20 2011, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(khtee @ Aug 20 2011, 12:28 AM)
I think mitsubishi dont allow proton to touch the powertrain for inspira. Read some where that proton engineers intend to tune the engine performance slightly higher (as somehow the 4B11 mivec gives less power then what it is giving in lancer). But mitsubshi doesnt allow it. And read in inspira club .... seems like earlier batches of inspira if got problem related to the engine, proton will have mitsubshi technician look at it rather themselves...

So i doubt think proton will be turbocharging the 4B11 themselves (without mitsubishi participation).
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Well, who knows what would be into Mitsubishi's otak now, rite? They sold the rights to Proton for so little money, this move by them actually made me change the way I view Mitsubishi.


Added on August 20, 2011, 12:33 am
QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 19 2011, 10:55 PM)
owh...i thought R3 = the neo type
i've ordered d neo r3 type + R3 = RM350
thanks for introducing me d shop! rclxms.gif
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I thought u smsed me telling it's only RM 250? Didnt told him that 6796 intro u to the shop? Might get cheaper wink.gif

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post Aug 20 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 12:31 AM)
I thought u smsed me telling it's only RM 250? Didnt told him that 6796 intro u to the shop? Might get cheaper wink.gif
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paiseh...add d fog lamps...he say stock fog lamps of persona is too big to fit into the neo r3 bumper
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 20 2011, 01:14 AM)
paiseh...add d fog lamps...he say stock fog lamps of persona is too big to fit into the neo r3 bumper
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Why never ask them get it painted before they deliver it to u? Can straight away cabut ur OEM bumper & install on the spot.
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@xan, Works Filter and K&N Filter?? which is better?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 01:18 AM)
Why never ask them get it painted before they deliver it to u? Can straight away cabut ur OEM bumper & install on the spot.
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my car is in d workshop...repair for cosmetic damage due accident...
tats y i jz buy from them then take to workshop to install
now im worried bout d stock front grill...most probably will keep it or sell it off
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 20 2011, 01:32 AM)
@xan, Works Filter and K&N Filter?? which is better?
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K&N too high flow. May cause debris buildup in ur engine's internals later on. Performance wise K&N better.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 20 2011, 01:32 AM)
my car is in d workshop...repair for cosmetic damage due accident...
tats y i jz buy from them then take to workshop to install
now im worried bout d stock front grill...most probably will keep it or sell it off
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I see. Which one u went? How much they charge u?
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Anyone here have 4pcs rim besi from your persona rusting @ home?

Kindly offer me...willing to buy all 4 pcs for RM30...

Just let me know ya...going to need it before raya if possible..tq
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how much the light for persona the BMW version that rounded light?? whats the name.. ahahhaha noob sad.gif
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 01:37 AM)
I see. Which one u went? How much they charge u?
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somewhere at tmn melawati...
around 1k... dmg is driver's side 2 doors...rear and front bumper
need to knock back all the driver's side doors n spray for front n rear bumper...all around 1k+


Added on August 20, 2011, 10:24 am
QUOTE(Notoriez @ Aug 20 2011, 03:36 AM)
Anyone here have 4pcs rim besi from your persona rusting @ home?

Kindly offer me...willing to buy all 4 pcs for RM30...

Just let me know ya...going to need it before raya if possible..tq
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rim besi?means pasu bunga stock rims?

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 11:28 PM)
Oh yeah, and I never shared my story of test driving the Honda Insight yet..

My verdict:

As a true petrolhead (would love to declare myself as one, but I haven't own an Alfa yet. Shame.), I often cringe at the sight of hybrids on the road. Especially Malaysian roads. I couldn't help but to notice that they all share the same dull, not-so-fast-back styling. Take the Toyota Prius & Honda Insight for an instance. The 'hybrid shape' usually explains how boring hybrids are; and Lexus joined the market with their quintessentially designed, rather pleasant looking CT200h. Doesn't matter to me, still a hybrid anyway. It's just another Prius in Lexus' clothing. Although it does make me squirm whenever one drives past me. Yes, I'm a sucker for Lexus (Lexuses? Lexi? Lexera?). The CT200h shares the similar engine, similar electric motor with its' cousin, and that gives a similar combined output. Also not to mention that I was once marinated, dusted, grilled & smoked in my stock Persona by a Prius, driven by a lady. At 180 KM/h. On the ever bumpy Duke Highway.

Let's get back to the main point, shall we? I wasn't too keen to test drive the Insight at first, because I'm still against the whole hybrid idea. But because it was a sincere offer made by my friend who recently acquired her new Insight, and me being the worst critic among my peers when it comes to cars, I reluctantly accepted the offer. Yes, I was still very skeptical at this point, but not until I was greeted with a warm welcome by a nice 'beep' when the door was opened. Could've been worse.

I must say I was rather pleased by the arrangement of buttons & dials on the dashboard in the car. A nice-to-the-touch CD player with grey brushed metal finishings; can't help but to perpetually run my fingertips on the headunit & caress it. Am I the only one with a fetish for brushed finishings here?

Digital speedo display. Hmm. Nice touch, but it wouldn't give as much thrill as watching the needle rise on a conventional analogue. It's a 1,339 CC 4-banger with an ELECTRIC MOTOR. Wouldn't do that quick, anyway.
It weighs around the same as a Persona, mind you.

I hate it when car manufacturers, especially the big ones like Honda decide to use cheap plastics for the door trims in their cars. The door trim feels REALLY cheap, very close in quality to that of the first generation Myvi. As if they were made out of recycled plastic bags. It doesn't feel like a sub RM 100k car to the receptors on my fingertips. Come to think of it, the Myvi's door panel were less flimsy compared to the Insight's. Even the interior of the slightly cheaper, new Honda City is a notch above. Sound insulation was O.K., but Honda could've done better.

And so, what's the drive like?
The stepless CVT gearbox provided the car with a rather smooth acceleration. 0-100 in about 11.4 seconds as recorded by the car owner who was sitting beside me at that time, a far cry from the manufacturer's claim of 10-ish seconds. Still faster than many cars today. Lesson learnt; do not EVER mess with hybrids as they have enough torque from the electric motors to smoke you from standstill. Comfort was acceptable on paved surface, although on certain rough road patches you could feel the details on the road; stones, tiny cracks, holes. At one point I actually thought I felt the car went over an engraving on the road that reads: 'MRR2, 1992'.

Honda should've painted the ECO button in red instead of green with fine printings on it, in bolded capital that says: 'Do not press.'. With the ECO mode activated, it was a pain to sit in the car through the traffic under the ever blazing, scorching sun on our way to Pavilion as it reduces the climate control (the mighty invention that we Malaysians worship and recognize as 'air-cond') fan speed and recirculates the air in the car more. Might be a rather nice implementation to other parts of the world, but not here in Malaysia. And as smooth as the engine is (a plus point for the Insight), it is rather irritating when it constantly stops and restarts in a jam when your foot is on the brakes. The ECO mode also limits the power and torque, which is a rather brilliant way to reduce fuel consumption, but there isn't enough power to get the car up to a cruising speed once the traffic cleared.

Overall, the Insight is a rather decent car, but what you get doesn't actually justify what you paid for. Probably paying extra for that electric motor and battery, but the interior should've been better, and comfort can still be improved. Haven't actually tried to thrash the car around corners to test the handling, but from city maneuvers, it's easy to tell that the car wouldn't slip through corners like a snake. Steering was extremely light, so light that I had to constantly remind myself that I'm holding a steering wheel that is ACTUALLY connected to the front wheels, as opposed to my cousin's 1994 Proton Saga Iswara. Trying to park that Saga in a parallel parking box is equivalent to working out at the gym for 30 minutes with no membership fees; I can skip gym altogether! Point being, if you have RM 100k to splurge on a car, go for the new City or the Jazz instead.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 19 2011, 11:28 PM)
Oh yeah, and I never shared my story of test driving the Honda Insight yet..

My verdict:

As a true petrolhead (would love to declare myself as one, but I haven't own an Alfa yet. Shame.), I often cringe at the sight of hybrids on the road. Especially Malaysian roads. I couldn't help but to notice that they all share the same dull, not-so-fast-back styling. Take the Toyota Prius & Honda Insight for an instance. The 'hybrid shape' usually explains how boring hybrids are; and Lexus joined the market with their quintessentially designed, rather pleasant looking CT200h. Doesn't matter to me, still a hybrid anyway. It's just another Prius in Lexus' clothing. Although it does make me squirm whenever one drives past me. Yes, I'm a sucker for Lexus (Lexuses? Lexi? Lexera?). The CT200h shares the similar engine, similar electric motor with its' cousin, and that gives a similar combined output. Also not to mention that I was once marinated, dusted, grilled & smoked in my stock Persona by a Prius, driven by a lady. At 180 KM/h. On the ever bumpy Duke Highway.

Let's get back to the main point, shall we? I wasn't too keen to test drive the Insight at first, because I'm still against the whole hybrid idea. But because it was a sincere offer made by my friend who recently acquired her new Insight, and me being the worst critic among my peers when it comes to cars, I reluctantly accepted the offer. Yes, I was still very skeptical at this point, but not until I was greeted with a warm welcome by a nice 'beep' when the door was opened. Could've been worse.

I must say I was rather pleased by the arrangement of buttons & dials on the dashboard in the car. A nice-to-the-touch CD player with grey brushed metal finishings; can't help but to perpetually run my fingertips on the headunit & caress it. Am I the only one with a fetish for brushed finishings here?

Digital speedo display. Hmm. Nice touch, but it wouldn't give as much thrill as watching the needle rise on a conventional analogue. It's a 1,339 CC 4-banger with an ELECTRIC MOTOR. Wouldn't do that quick, anyway.
It weighs around the same as a Persona, mind you.

I hate it when car manufacturers, especially the big ones like Honda decide to use cheap plastics for the door trims in their cars. The door trim feels REALLY cheap, very close in quality to that of the first generation Myvi. As if they were made out of recycled plastic bags. It doesn't feel like a sub RM 100k car to the receptors on my fingertips. Come to think of it, the Myvi's door panel were less flimsy compared to the Insight's. Even the interior of the slightly cheaper, new Honda City is a notch above. Sound insulation was O.K., but Honda could've done better.

And so, what's the drive like?
The stepless CVT gearbox provided the car with a rather smooth acceleration. 0-100 in about 11.4 seconds as recorded by the car owner who was sitting beside me at that time, a far cry from the manufacturer's claim of 10-ish seconds. Still faster than many cars today. Lesson learnt; do not EVER mess with hybrids as they have enough torque from the electric motors to smoke you from standstill. Comfort was acceptable on paved surface, although on certain rough road patches you could feel the details on the road; stones, tiny cracks, holes. At one point I actually thought I felt the car went over an engraving on the road that reads: 'MRR2, 1992'.

Honda should've painted the ECO button in red instead of green with fine printings on it, in bolded capital that says: 'Do not press.'. With the ECO mode activated, it was a pain to sit in the car through the traffic under the ever blazing, scorching sun on our way to Pavilion as it reduces the climate control (the mighty invention that we Malaysians worship and recognize as 'air-cond') fan speed and recirculates the air in the car more. Might be a rather nice implementation to other parts of the world, but not here in Malaysia. And as smooth as the engine is (a plus point for the Insight), it is rather irritating when it constantly stops and restarts in a jam when your foot is on the brakes. The ECO mode also limits the power and torque, which is a rather brilliant way to reduce fuel consumption, but there isn't enough power to get the car up to a cruising speed once the traffic cleared.

Overall, the Insight is a rather decent car, but what you get doesn't actually justify what you paid for. Probably paying extra for that electric motor and battery, but the interior should've been better, and comfort can still be improved. Haven't actually tried to thrash the car around corners to test the handling, but from city maneuvers, it's easy to tell that the car wouldn't slip through corners like a snake. Steering was extremely light, so light that I had to constantly remind myself that I'm holding a steering wheel that is ACTUALLY connected to the front wheels, as opposed to my cousin's 1994 Proton Saga Iswara. Trying to park that Saga in a parallel parking box is equivalent to working out at the gym for 30 minutes with no membership fees; I can skip gym altogether! Point being, if you have RM 100k to splurge on a car, go for the new City or the Jazz instead.
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0-100 juz need 11.4sec..tis is good result..compare wit our persona,its faster than us ady
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tumpang tanya....our pe stock head unit blaupunkt got rca output anot?

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 20 2011, 01:18 AM)
Why never ask them get it painted before they deliver it to u? Can straight away cabut ur OEM bumper & install on the spot.
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if ask them spray d bumper need to add $ also ma...since my car is in workshop now under repair + spray...so just take it to workshop n let them spray one shot for d dmg parts

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