QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 15 2012, 08:43 AM)
Zakaria?REIT V3, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Aug 15 2012, 12:15 PM
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I read that from 2013 onwards all Reits will be Single Tier, is that right?
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Aug 15 2012, 12:22 PM
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Aug 15 2012, 12:25 PM
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Aug 15 2012, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:25 PM) Reits tax is 10%, while ordinary share is 25%. Meaning 'normal' tax rate at 25%?From 2013 onwards, the tax is factored in to our DPU aka we're on Single Tier. Added on August 15, 2012, 12:46 pm QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:39 PM) On top of the mountain Dont ferget the millions of acres of plantation lands..........That is why everyone is interested . Now lorry transporters also want to turn their warehouses into reits. This post has been edited by prophetjul: Aug 15 2012, 12:46 PM |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:47 PM
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Aug 15 2012, 12:47 PM
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Aug 15 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:15 PM) Not applicable for REIT, withholding of 10% tax still applicable.By year 2014, all of the company have to forgo section 108 and apply single tier dividend. Let me explain in summary:- Section 108 - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend declare and paid to shareholders, shareholders able to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. Single tier - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend paid to shareholders is final, shareholders unable to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:15 PM) QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:25 PM) Reits tax is 10%, while ordinary share is 25%. As far as I know, Reit still under witholding tax 10%. From 2013 onwards, the tax is factored in to our DPU aka we're on Single Tier. Single Tier applied across company (even private company) from 2013 financial onwards. Reit if give out more than 90%, they are not subjected to income tax (tax exempted), so single tier issue is not applicable in this situation. All tax credit is not able to carry forwards (or void). So those company with tax credit and not giving out dividend before 2013, those tax credit will cease. Quite a big loss of minority shareholders that not subjected to tax or at lower tax bracket one. |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 15 2012, 12:53 PM) Not applicable for REIT, withholding of 10% tax still applicable. bad for tax payer who tax rate is less than 25%By year 2014, all of the company have to forgo section 108 and apply single tier dividend. Let me explain in summary:- Section 108 - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend declare and paid to shareholders, shareholders able to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. Single tier - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend paid to shareholders is final, shareholders unable to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 15 2012, 12:53 PM) Not applicable for REIT, withholding of 10% tax still applicable. Thanks mate, thats very clear....looks like tAX man coming soon to yer REITS- malaysian that is.......By year 2014, all of the company have to forgo section 108 and apply single tier dividend. Let me explain in summary:- Section 108 - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend declare and paid to shareholders, shareholders able to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. Single tier - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend paid to shareholders is final, shareholders unable to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. i am safe so far in SREITs......Mr Msian TAXman will never let go............thats how we pay for the rest of the 90% non tax payors.. |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 15 2012, 12:53 PM) Not applicable for REIT, withholding of 10% tax still applicable. Reit Co is " qualified " for tax exempt profits for conditions met , so under single tier distribution should be freed from tax . By year 2014, all of the company have to forgo section 108 and apply single tier dividend. Let me explain in summary:- Section 108 - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend declare and paid to shareholders, shareholders able to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. Single tier - Company paid tax at 25%, dividend paid to shareholders is final, shareholders unable to claim/off-set against tax payable in that year assessment. That is why still got withholding tax at 10% , right. |
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Aug 15 2012, 01:00 PM
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Aug 15 2012, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 15 2012, 12:59 PM) Thanks mate, thats very clear....looks like tAX man coming soon to yer REITS- malaysian that is....... But Spore got lot of indirect taxes such as GST and high premium of land lease renewals.i am safe so far in SREITs......Mr Msian TAXman will never let go............thats how we pay for the rest of the 90% non tax payors.. Cannot compare things just above the surface, many taxes hidden under the carpets. Added on August 15, 2012, 1:05 pm QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 15 2012, 01:00 PM) Withholding is not final, subject to some conditions met.If not normal tax on dividends to be followed. ( single tier basis ) One is above 90% distribution of operating profits. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 15 2012, 01:20 PM |
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Aug 15 2012, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 15 2012, 01:02 PM) But Spore got lot of indirect taxes such as GST and high premium of lease renewals. Thats for the REITs to manage....on personal level...the DPUs are tax free provided the REIT pays out min 90% of Cannot compare things just above the surface, many taxes hidden under the carpets. Added on August 15, 2012, 1:05 pm Withholding is not final, subject to some conditions met. If not normal tax on dividends to be followed. One is above 90% distribution of operating profits. profits. Do they release back the withholding taxes? |
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