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post Sep 30 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 30 2011, 10:56 AM)
I disagree. People should put a higher proportion in higher risk investments when they are young and then progressively move into lower risk ones as they get near to retirement.
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Ouch! Looks like me already an old man. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 30 2011, 10:56 AM)
I disagree. People should put a higher proportion in higher risk investments when they are young and then progressively move into lower risk ones as they get near to retirement.
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People have different risk appetites therefore different investment philosophies which pays off in different periods. Having a high risk investment mindset just couple of months back would have set someone back currently, while having a low risk mindset now would see one perhaps not gaining as much in the coming few months as stocks is looking to cautiously rise again.
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post Sep 30 2011, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 30 2011, 12:11 AM)
When you say equity, is it inclusive of shares and equity unit trusts funds? Or just shares?
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To me UT that invest in share, I clasify as equities since their underlying asset class is the same.

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Normally people will put high risk lower % while lower risk higher %. Eq.
60% FD 30% Equity 10% HYI
. Equity/Bond/REIT risk are quite close.
Your 1st statement is false. The % of asset allocation is based on risk tolerance and is correlated with age grouping. It has no correlation with normal or abnormal.

Your 2nd statement is false. The measurement of risk is Standard Deviation from the mean. The datas that I have on hand indicate that risk of equity > reit > bond, and they are not that close.

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post Sep 30 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 30 2011, 10:56 AM)
I disagree. People should put a higher proportion in higher risk investments when they are young and then progressively move into lower risk ones as they get near to retirement.
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There is no such thing should or shouldn't. smile.gif
It all depended on individual risk appetite, and risk and money management.

Even an old man 60, he can choose to have 90% in equities if the old man has a total 10 million,
as just merely 10%, already mean 1 million, enough to eat for a couple of year or ten plus year. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
There is nothing wrong in this 90:10 allocation for this old man.

It all about money management.
A young people 20's but only have 20k, but it is not advisable to have 20% cash/FD, as 20% means 4k cash/FD, which it may not sufficient for emergence purpose fund.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 30 2011, 12:11 AM)
When you say equity, is it inclusive of shares and equity unit trusts funds? Or just shares?
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Unit trust fund = equities = shares.

They are the same.

I do not why there are perception out there UT /= shares

You put money in UT, UT manager takes your money to buy shares.
UT = shares.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 30 2011, 02:10 PM)
Unit trust fund = equities = shares.

They are the same.

I do not why there are perception out there UT /= shares

You put money in UT, UT manager takes your money to buy shares.
UT = shares.
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assume that people thought they misunderstanding on the Unit Trust true meaning..

Unit trust is just passing your money to some "proffesional" people to invest for you.. buy shares for you...


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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 30 2011, 02:14 PM)
assume that people thought they misunderstanding on the Unit Trust true meaning..

Unit trust is just passing your money to some "proffesional" people to invest for you.. buy shares for you...
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and charges you 5% + 1.5 annual management fee.... tongue.gif


Added on September 30, 2011, 2:16 pmand bare zero risk of losing money.... whistling.gif

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post Sep 30 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 30 2011, 02:15 PM)
and charges you 5% + 1.5 annual management fee....  tongue.gif


Added on September 30, 2011, 2:16 pmand bare zero risk of losing money....  whistling.gif
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haha thinking of if u pay that 5% money for your own trading fees is better than let people earn your money.. laugh.gif

you could decide on your own.... sweat.gif

Panamy nice price... wub.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 12:08 AM

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Stareit drop drastically @@
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post Oct 2 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Oct 2 2011, 12:08 AM)
Stareit drop drastically @@
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The D/Y for STAREIT even after dropping to the level is still not attractive for me.

So far I have in my portfolio: 7700 ARREIT, 6000 AMFIRST, 6000 TWREIT and will be collecting 6700 QCAP at the end of this month.

I am OVERWT on REIT & MYR Denominated BOND at the moment due to the volatility and uncertainty.

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post Oct 2 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 2 2011, 11:15 AM)
The D/Y for STAREIT even after dropping to the level is still not attractive for me.

So far I have in my portfolio: 7700 ARREIT, 6000 AMFIRST, 6000 TWREIT and will be collecting 6700 QCAP at the end of this month.

I am OVERWT on REIT & MYR Denominated BOND at the moment due to the volatility and uncertainty.

Xuzen
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Very true. I don't like stareit. They sold off a very profitable Pavillion KL for a paltry sum and now wants to make it a pure play hospitability reit. I think there is great conflict of interest between management and tenant. Doubt if one can get a fair return on it vis-a-vis other reits.
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QUOTE(Paradise20124 @ Aug 14 2011, 06:57 PM)
@2010 n cherroy :

Thanx for both of u...u guys r too kind...will check for it now smile.gif


Added on August 15, 2011, 3:24 amAfter i check from that SC and MAS really didnt have any listing of APG reit or asia property group or cuffzholdings...

How to do ya???can someone help me by answering my question???
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Be careful of APG Reits.

They offer attractive returns to entice/lure unsuspecting "investors"

Check out - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Beware-of-AP...279551402057020



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post Oct 7 2011, 12:52 AM

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guys, any reits player here!! ? Just want to in ARREIT! the dividend look like drop edi... so erm .. which reits can recommend! Thanks
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post Oct 7 2011, 04:38 PM

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10% REIT tax maintained for another 5years.woohoo more money into my pocket
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post Oct 7 2011, 10:43 PM

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dies anyone get arreit today? supposed to be the payment date today:

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...EF?OpenDocument


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post Oct 8 2011, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Oct 7 2011, 04:38 PM)
10% REIT tax maintained for another 5years.woohoo more money into my pocket
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yup... smile.gif no worries until 2016 now... cheers.gif to all REIT holders..

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Meanwhile, the government also proposed that to extend the concessionary tax rate of 10 per cent on dividends of non-corporate institutional and individual investors in Real Estate Investment Trust (REITs) to December 31 2016.

Read more: Budget 2012: MNCs to get tax exemption http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz1a8VaNyp2

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post Oct 8 2011, 10:49 AM

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unlike individual and institutional investors in Singapore and Hong Kong, they do not pay withholding tax on their REIT investments.
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post Oct 8 2011, 02:50 PM

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I am waiting for the arreit dividend yesterday, still not yet see the money in the account. Payment date suppose to be yesterday.
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post Oct 8 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(BrendaChee @ Oct 8 2011, 02:50 PM)
I am waiting for the arreit dividend yesterday, still not yet see the money in the account. Payment date suppose to be yesterday.
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yah same case here....still no dividend today as well.

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post Oct 8 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Oct 7 2011, 04:38 PM)
10% REIT tax maintained for another 5years.woohoo more money into my pocket
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What do u mean by more money goes into the investor pocket ?
10% tax maintained means no changes right ?

Actually i'm expected the 10% tax to be reduce to 5% sad.gif

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