I'm considering ARReit, since it fall the 0.85, which I think is a very good entry price, lets see if it falls further in the coming few days/week.
if sampai 0.80, i'll masuk kao kao..
REIT V3, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Sep 26 2011, 03:16 PM
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Panamy darn expensive to masuk
I'm considering ARReit, since it fall the 0.85, which I think is a very good entry price, lets see if it falls further in the coming few days/week. if sampai 0.80, i'll masuk kao kao.. |
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Sep 26 2011, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Sep 26 2011, 03:16 PM) Panamy darn expensive to masuk Expensive is subjective...it gave a div of rm1.3 p share this yearI'm considering ARReit, since it fall the 0.85, which I think is a very good entry price, lets see if it falls further in the coming few days/week. if sampai 0.80, i'll masuk kao kao.. has been giving me >RM1 p share since 2009........expensive? Think again.......... |
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Sep 26 2011, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 26 2011, 03:25 PM) Expensive is subjective...it gave a div of rm1.3 p share this year Most folks think expensive and cheap, not "over valued" and "great value" mar bro Prophetjul has been giving me >RM1 p share since 2009........expensive? Think again.......... Not "into" old school thinking like U & i Even my good ol' mum still thinks like such (looking at Price only vs % of returns) Psst.. we need such people leh, else it'll be too competitive This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 26 2011, 03:32 PM |
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Sep 26 2011, 08:44 PM
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Am looking at BSDREIT and ALAQAR as well, but my concern about ALAQAR is their high DE. If not mistaken, 40+% debt, against the allowable limit of 50% for REIT. If the interest rate turns high, ALAQAR might be in deep shit, even though i'm not how much is the portion of flexi rate against the portion for fixed rate interests.
One disadvantage for BSDREIT is they are rather illiquid. Quite hard to get the price you want or price movement up. QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 26 2011, 02:03 PM) Golden bro! Made yr killing in metals & filtering for REITs to buy later ar? Just my 2cents REITs filter: 1. TWRREIT (office REIT) Discounting fears of office glut, this counter has been consistent in it's ROTA, ROE & low enough D/E for future expansion via loan debts. In addition, i think the GOUCO group is behind it. 2. BSDREIT (plantation REIT) Weird creature this. It gets $ from rental & mgt + profit sharing of palm oil sold. Personal view - looking at how food and oil are being "fought" by more & more humans + ROTA, ROE & low enough D/E for future expansion via loan debts, this is in my filtered list. 3. ALAQAR KPJ (healthcare REIT) Similar to the above financial KPIs. BTW, it NEVER (after end 2009) came down enough for its DY% to be worthwhile for me. Filtered but havent had the opportunity to buy. Those are the top 3s for me, IMHO. I'd sure love to do SUNREIT based on the concept and properties held but so far, numbers dont look great & DY wasnt attractive enough after launch - i no $ allocated to REITs mar after jumping into TWRREIT in Q1 2009 You're mileage may vary Note: I am holding TWRREIT, BSDREIT & ARREIT (small opportunity buy - D/E and consistency doesnt look too good, just based on DY% and its properties held) Held HEKTAR & UOAREIT before based on opportunity buys in end 2008 / Q1 2009. |
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Sep 26 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 26 2011, 08:44 PM) Am looking at BSDREIT and ALAQAR as well, but my concern about ALAQAR is their high DE. If not mistaken, 40+% debt, against the allowable limit of 50% for REIT. If the interest rate turns high, ALAQAR might be in deep shit, even though i'm not how much is the portion of flexi rate against the portion for fixed rate interests. Eh? There's an "allowable limit of 50% for REIT"? Where can I get more details on this bro? Thanks in advanceOne disadvantage for BSDREIT is they are rather illiquid. Quite hard to get the price you want or price movement up. BSDREIT illiquid? Hehe so far liquid enough for me to buy and ppl to sell at quite a range based on 2008 dive till 2011. Maybe different definition for me gua This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 26 2011, 09:12 PM |
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Sep 27 2011, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 26 2011, 09:11 PM) Eh? There's an "allowable limit of 50% for REIT"? Where can I get more details on this bro? Thanks in advance There is guideline set that reit cannot borrow more than 50% of its NAV, which is to prevent excessive leveraging, which can easily send the reit into problematic situation if market/economy or specifically property is not favourable time. BSDREIT illiquid? Hehe so far liquid enough for me to buy and ppl to sell at quite a range based on 2008 dive till 2011. Maybe different definition for me gua Check the earlier thread discussion. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1362442/+100 |
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Sep 27 2011, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 26 2011, 09:11 PM) Eh? There's an "allowable limit of 50% for REIT"? Where can I get more details on this bro? Thanks in advance We learn sumthin new each day.BSDREIT illiquid? Hehe so far liquid enough for me to buy and ppl to sell at quite a range based on 2008 dive till 2011. Maybe different definition for me gua Thanks to jutamind |
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Sep 27 2011, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 27 2011, 12:03 AM) There is guideline set that reit cannot borrow more than 50% of its NAV, which is to prevent excessive leveraging, which can easily send the reit into problematic situation if market/economy or specifically property is not favourable time. Mucho Gracias Senior CherroyCheck the earlier thread discussion. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1362442/+100 Added on September 27, 2011, 7:49 am QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 27 2011, 07:40 AM) Yup yup - stop learning = dead duckThis post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 27 2011, 07:49 AM |
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Sep 27 2011, 08:20 PM
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Sep 28 2011, 01:37 PM
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Sep 28 2011, 02:42 PM
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Where to check Historical Dividend Yield % ?
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Sep 28 2011, 08:46 PM
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bursa website
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Sep 28 2011, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 28 2011, 02:42 PM) this may help !!http://icapital.biz/english/aftexdate_2.asp?sort=d |
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Sep 29 2011, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 12 2011, 03:22 PM) Just bought 6,000 share in Tower Reit. My portfolio is currently underweight in Real Estate. Need to rebalance it. Tower Reit, IMO is better than others. Today, bought 6,000 AMFIRST @ RM 1.12 with a DY of 8.6%. Trying to make 60:20:20 [equity:bond:REIT] in my portfolio. Xuzen Added on September 12, 2011, 3:23 pmMy plan is to accumulate REITs until it is ard 20% of my portfolio. Xuzen Xuzen |
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Sep 30 2011, 12:11 AM
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Sep 30 2011, 10:37 AM
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Normally people will put high risk lower % while lower risk higher %. Eq.
60% FD 30% Equity 10% HYI. Equity/Bond/REIT risk are quite close. |
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Sep 30 2011, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Sep 30 2011, 10:37 AM) Normally people will put high risk lower % while lower risk higher %. Eq. I disagree. People should put a higher proportion in higher risk investments when they are young and then progressively move into lower risk ones as they get near to retirement.60% FD 30% Equity 10% HYI. Equity/Bond/REIT risk are quite close. |
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Sep 30 2011, 11:10 AM
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one system does'nt suit all, trade/invest in personal suited risks appetite ...
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Sep 30 2011, 11:11 AM
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Sep 30 2011, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 30 2011, 10:56 AM) I disagree. People should put a higher proportion in higher risk investments when they are young and then progressively move into lower risk ones as they get near to retirement. People have different risk appetites therefore different investment philosophies which pays off in different periods. Having a high risk investment mindset just couple of months back would have set someone back currently, while having a low risk mindset now would see one perhaps not gaining as much in the coming few months as stocks is looking to cautiously rise again. |
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