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 Balance Transfer, What is it actually???

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post Apr 11 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(eboy7855 @ Apr 11 2011, 08:51 AM)
I thought that if the CL is exceed then we still can do the BT..

Then my preception is wrong..
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No such thing. BT is dependent on your CL. Not enough CL/no CL then BT doesn't work. It is the same concept as you were to use the card for normal purchases, no/not enough CL and your card will be declined.

BT takes out the entire lump amount that you BT and not the monthly installment value.
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post Apr 12 2011, 12:00 PM

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for newly cardholders, is it possible to do BT even we not yet swipe/use the card yet? do they require a least transaction/purchase made on card before apply for BT??

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QUOTE(cagar11th @ Apr 12 2011, 12:00 PM)
for newly cardholders, is it possible to do BT even we not yet swipe/use the card yet? do they require a least transaction/purchase made on card before apply for BT??
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you can BT from exisiting card to the new card
but not BT from the new card to existing card, unless the bank does not require card statement
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post Apr 13 2011, 09:10 AM

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lets say I have outstanding from cc A 3k, n apply BT from cimb and Maybank at the same time with same cc A outstanding 3k,...
is there any possibility that both my application for BT from cimb and mbb will be approved with same amount? cimb 3k and mbb 3k?...
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post Apr 13 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(cagar11th @ Apr 13 2011, 09:10 AM)
lets say I have outstanding from cc A 3k, n apply BT from cimb and Maybank at the same time with same cc A outstanding 3k,...
is there any possibility that both my application for BT from cimb and mbb will be approved with same amount? cimb 3k and mbb 3k?...
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Then you will be owing RM6000 .... that's crazy !!!
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post Apr 13 2011, 09:59 AM

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how long will PB bank approve and do the BT?
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post Apr 13 2011, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 13 2011, 10:42 AM)
Then you will be owing RM6000 .... that's crazy !!!
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wrong, take the balance 3k out and invest on FD, after 1 years u earn 3% then only return b. u profit 3000 x 0.03 = RM90. why not?
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
wrong, take the balance 3k out and invest on FD, after 1 years u earn 3% then only return b. u profit 3000 x 0.03 = RM90. why not?
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How would you take the balance out of CC ? Cash Advance ?
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post Apr 13 2011, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
wrong, take the balance 3k out and invest on FD, after 1 years u earn 3% then only return b. u profit 3000 x 0.03 = RM90. why not?
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but is it worth??....withdrawal fee already 2.5%: 3k x 2.5%=75???

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post Apr 13 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 13 2011, 12:10 PM)
How would you take the balance out of CC ? Cash Advance ?
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there're method to take out cash without charges bro. HLB can do it. And u could have purchaser stuff on the behalf of others. plenty of way to do it bro. but for me i won't go for such low money earning la, as long as i no lose at interest i felt ok already.

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post Apr 13 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Apr 8 2011, 09:03 PM)
That was exactly what I thought, as the Maybankard 2 Visa Platinum is useless to me and I won't use it for retail purchases. Also, the BT balance won't be messed up with cc account.

I would say CIMB 0% BT programme is the BEST, as we need to settle only monthly minimum payment with no interest charged. Prior to the expiry of 6 months, we can then transfer the BT outstanding balance to another 0% BT programme from other bank like MBB which offers 0% interest for 12 months. This will allow part of our money be stayed in the bank and earn a little bit of interest. However, for MBB BT programme, the installment will be split equally giving us no chance to do another BT to other banks again. Therefore, for those who spend big and would like to benefit from the 0% BT, it is better to first do BT from CIMB.

I don't actually promote BT here. It is only beneficial to those who are discipline. Before we decide to swipe the card, we should have already had enough reserve fund to pay.
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Tks for sharing.
just wanna ask, did maybank created a new 16 digit account for BT in your visa CC account?
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
wrong, take the balance 3k out and invest on FD, after 1 years u earn 3% then only return b. u profit 3000 x 0.03 = RM90. why not?
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Wrong, you won't get full 3% or RM90 as you need to pay back monthly and most of the 0% is paid to CC account.

QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 13 2011, 12:53 PM)
there're method to take out cash without charges bro. HLB can do it. And u could have purchaser stuff on the behalf of others. plenty of way to do it bro. but for me i won't go for such low money earning la, as long as i no lose at interest i felt ok already.
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Please do not mislead others. HLB Balance Transfer is not 0%, lowest is 0.4% for 3 months and annualized it, it is 4.8% which is much higher than FD.
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post Apr 13 2011, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 13 2011, 04:57 PM)
Wrong, you won't get full 3% or RM90 as you need to pay back monthly and most of the 0% is paid to CC account.
Please do not mislead others. HLB Balance Transfer is not 0%, lowest is 0.4% for 3 months and annualized it, it is 4.8% which is much higher than FD.
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HLB is 0.5% monthly for 6 months. Eg. upon withdraw 3000, u may use mbb/cimb to BT 2800 to there with 200 remain ONLY will be interest incurred over 6 months. 200 x 3% = less than 6 bucks over the months. how much u earn from FD?

so u see what i mean? be wise la bro. i not meant to offend, and i'm so sorry if i offended u..

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post Apr 13 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 13 2011, 04:02 PM)
HLB is 0.5% monthly for 6 months. Eg. upon withdraw 3000, u may use mbb/cimb to BT 2800 to there with 200 remain ONLY will be interest incurred over 6 months. 200 x 3% = less than 6 bucks over the months. how much u earn from FD?

so u see what i mean? be wise la bro. i not meant to offend, and i'm so sorry if i offended u..
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif you too wise for your own good, hahaha

Idea is there but I would say tricky because you need to wait for HLB statement and then apply and get it approve at CIMB side, if the entire process takes a month to be paid to HLB from the day HLB deposit your money, you would have incurred interest charges of equivalent to 6%, but still would be making a little bit money.

However there is a flaw in your assumption, you forgot about the repayment to CIMB.

So effectively, the interest you earn with a mere RM2800 is peanuts considering the fact you have to monitor two balance transfer accounts.

But if you talking about RM100,000, maybe can make some pocket money but I too lazy go figure out. you want to do the math for me? tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(pisang @ Apr 13 2011, 03:16 PM)
Tks for sharing.
just wanna ask, did maybank created a new 16 digit account  for BT in your visa CC account?
For my case, no. And it should be the same with all other Maybankard holders who have done BT to Maybank.

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post Apr 13 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 13 2011, 04:23 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif you too wise for your own good, hahaha

Idea is there but I would say tricky because you need to wait for HLB statement and then apply and get it approve at CIMB side, if the entire process takes a month to be paid to HLB from the day HLB deposit your money, you would have incurred interest charges of equivalent to 6%, but still would be making a little bit money.

However there is a flaw in your assumption, you forgot about the repayment to CIMB.

So effectively, the interest you earn with a mere RM2800 is peanuts considering the fact you have to monitor two balance transfer accounts.

But if you talking about RM100,000, maybe can make some pocket money but I too lazy go figure out. you want to do the math for me?  tongue.gif
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a bit confusing here. i cant find any method to withdraw cash from hlb credit card except for cash advance

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post Apr 13 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Apr 13 2011, 04:46 PM)
a bit confusing here. i cant find any method to withdraw cash from hlb credit card except for cash advance
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you better not learn la, timetraveller is an expert when in comes to BT.

but if you really want to try out, check out link below:
http://www.hlb.com.my/pfs/cc/ccbt.jsp?flag=ccbt

unlike other BT, HLB BT is similar to EON Call For Cash. When you apply BT with HLB, they will transfer the amount of BT you apply into your Savings or Current Account.

Then HLB will create another BT account for you, based on daily rest i.e. faster you pay, the less interest is incurred. However there is a penalty of RM100 for early settlement, that's why timetraveller said to maintain RM200 for few months.
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post Apr 13 2011, 05:09 PM

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why HLB doesnt want to pay to customer's requested bank cc instead of sending cheque to customer ?
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post Apr 13 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Apr 13 2011, 05:09 PM)
why HLB doesnt want to pay to customer's requested bank cc instead of sending cheque to customer ?
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because then they can offer their so called BT plan to more people i.e. no need outstanding balance also can apply as treat this as loan.

The interest rate is not low, 0.4%, 0.5%, 0.75% and 1% when annualized becomes 4.8%, 6%, 9% and 12% respectively. So if people do use this BT program, HLB making money since the rate imposed in > 1 month FD. And believe me, people who apply for this kind of BT plan mostly got no money in the first place, so once they get the cash in their bank account sure will spend the cash away immediately and comes end of BT tenure, HLB can charge 17.5% int.

And they do not suka suka offer to anybody, still subjected to credit check and management discretion.

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post Apr 13 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 13 2011, 04:32 PM)
For my case, no. And it should be the same with all other Maybankard holders who have done BT to Maybank.
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Thks.

Take maybank visa as example, i BT 12k from another bank to maybank. i now take the zero % plan with monthly installment is . What if the GST charge of RM50 comes in the second month (2nd installment)? what's the payment hierarchy then?
thanks in advance for helping.


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