wrong room!

looks like the ITB setup on the works neo got rid of the stupid DBW and went with cable instead...


lemme guess.... u talking about the 92p right? notice i mentioned campro...

as for my friend.. yes hes chinese... but what does race has to do with it? seriously... wat?

he did a BOT on his campro and yeah hes getting pretty impressive power... spent about 14k...but boosting about 0.6bar and cant go higher on his setup..

but for roughly the same amount... u get a higher displacement 1.8 93t... no replacement for displacement..and if ur willing... u can prlly get the 63t as well....and u can still increase the boost a lil bit without touching anything save for some a/f tuning.

for the campros to go higher... alot of work need to be done.. especially considering the sleeve on the campros are known to be so thin n fragile...

with a transplant... u already have a good strong base to begin with.

as for 92p... yeah.. u can go over 2xx....but putting that much power into the 92p will come at a high cost and worse of all u wont get the reliability of a stock engine...

and most 92 runners seeking for high horses end up with a 93 anyway.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Aug 5 2011, 02:48 PM

1) If you're saying about the Campro, you have a very valid point there, but less so with the 4g9x series.
2) God knows how reliable is a transplant compared to a rebuilt engine.
3) We're not comparing 92 vs 93, we're comparing transplant vs BOT/rebuild.

another question

if BOT need to rebuild...wat are the parts needed? becos in my understanding...transplant also need to rebuild

*money is not an object but need to consider total cost for both of cos before one to get it done...

1/ agreed...the 4G9x is a decent base to begin with especially considering the fact that there are alot of performance parts out there compared to the compro
2/ agreed but then during transplant all tests etc and warranty usually have so no real issues
3/ true... it was just a mention


but personally for me i wouldnt spend more than 5k for a BOT with USED parts...i just dont think its worth it

to me... the ONLY plus point of a BOT is that theres no need for JPJ. but then again..with a transplant.. usually workshop handles it unless u decide to do it yerself.

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Added on August 5, 2011, 3:12 pmrebuild = taking the engine apart.

BOT or transplants typically no rebuilding involved unless specifically requested.

a good example of rebuild is my current engine which has gone kapow!




goddamit...i miss my car so much...next week only pistons arriving... cant wait to run it in and tune it then feel the powah of a high comp 2L

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Aug 5 2011, 03:12 PM

ok...i understand now...i confused wit BOT need to rebuild...

i got the concept of rebuild now...n in my opinion both need to rebuild to really feels the power without compromise the reliability...

so its actually depends on one pocket...hehehe...

For the turbo, for a nice streetable setup, I would fully utilise the TDO4 turbine
Fast spooling and nicely use for the streets and pair it with a nice set of street camshaft

sleepwalker's old Satria GSR churned out 240whp with only the TD04

1.6 BOT can get that figure without the need for buying halfcut.

But the car itself is difficult to handle the power..
over 200 horse in a FF is kinda waste, it become berserk

It doesn't matter, a GSR 240whp TD04 will still have better drivability on the streets than a 240whp 92 anytime throughout the rev range

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Added on August 5, 2011, 3:51 pmNo worries, still can handle


This post has been edited by shinjite: Aug 5 2011, 03:51 PM

Yeah, it becomes a car that never turn...

just my blind guess then, you guys should know better than me..

This post has been edited by yehlai: Aug 5 2011, 03:53 PM

But a 1.8 block with new ball bearing turbo will give you higher peak and maybe even drivability.

This post has been edited by GEFORCEXTREME: Aug 5 2011, 03:59 PM

don't waste time with a boleh jalan set-up...... do it the proper way...... no regrets!

Lu olang semua monsters discussion.
4G1x tenggelam in this thread liao.

Yeah, found out finally, ntg good comes cheap.

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Added on August 5, 2011, 4:14 pmDiscuss only, my car also still slow and no turbo.

This post has been edited by GEFORCEXTREME: Aug 5 2011, 04:14 PM

ya lor...discuss only...later u can print screen...n keep...later ur money like bukit...u meet me...

FF car can handle over 200 HP provided
- it is properly done up with the proper RnD used
(eg direct from factory)

not some mech bawah pokok.. that plunks in the biggest turbo they can find etc...

keyword here is "properly done up"..

but too much power on a FF car is a b****..
trust me...

Ok, trust in you I have.

I will play this small engine kaw2 until next upgrade.
And next upgrade is not 4G9.
And not FF.
Its going to be chick magnet.
Hahahaha daydreaming wei..cannot brain!