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samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 16 2011, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 16 2011, 10:37 AM)
alamak... doh.gif  sad case. i thought can do bot on then happy dy. haih
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can..alot of campro engine BOT at xenonsport ady..quite reliable..can get around 170whp for stage 1 without change piston and block..stage 2 not suit for auto,bcoz too high horsepower..around can get 220-240whp for stage 2..
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 16 2011, 10:23 AM)
I think you're getting confuse that 0W and 5W cold viscosity means both will start cold at their respective sub-zero temperature. What the number indicates is 0W can go over -35C while 5W can go up to 30C pour point. Both will remain fluid for easier engine start at subzero temperature.

However our temperature practically never go below 20C, so 0W to 20W have practically same cold start performance at the temperature.

What you have to watch out is extending the mileage. The bigger the difference in hot and cold viscosity, the more addictives and viscosity improver (VI) are used. Ie 0W40 had way more addictives and VI vs 15W40. Addictives and VI breaks down way faster than the oil itself. So when addictives wears out, the oil will not remain in grade meaning, if the base stock is actually a 30 weighted oil and VI is used to increase / decrease viscosity, losing addictives will mean the oil are unable to lower it viscosity to needed cold start or thicken them to 40 weight. It will start to stay at weight 30 only and thats not good for the engine.

True FS base VI without addictives is very high already. So even when losing some addictives, it will still remain in grade near its natural wide VI range rather than the artificial VI addictives. FS natural VI does not break down fast vs addictive VI that breaks down very easily. Our group 3+ VS has higher natural VI than mineral and semi thus its VII breaks down slower than mineral and semi. Thats why some try to extend the mileage. Unfortunately its still not true FS thus the addictives and VI will still breaks down as same rate as mineral/semi. Just that these FS will lessen damage to engine vs mineral/semi at same mileage. Still damage will be done if extend too long thus recommended change at 5K before any chances of VI truly wearing off.
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Bro your are really good in lub explanation. Really appreciate having you here. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 10:41 AM)
rclxms.gif You really the Oil Man here, every time any one mention about oil sure you apear to reply,,,,,,salut bro notworthy.gif  ....just like stanby here 24/7 to answer anyting about oil...are you working or buisness at oil related company ? laugh.gif
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Oil Man. sweat.gif Should call lub man. laugh.gif

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 16 2011, 11:19 AM)
how mcuh it cost and when launching oh?dunno proton will launch the package to BOT for our PE or not hmm.gif

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You think to much that proton will launch the package. whistling.gif

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 11:24 AM)
Try CC5  smile.gif

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CC5 thumbup.gif . Using it now.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 16 2011, 12:20 PM)
can..alot of campro engine BOT at xenonsport ady..quite reliable..can get around 170whp for stage 1 without change piston and block..stage 2 not suit for auto,bcoz too high horsepower..around can get 220-240whp for stage 2..
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After BOT makan minyak or not?
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 10:24 AM)
Try CC5  smile.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 10:26 am

I asked this to the technician as well..
He said our car not suit to install turbo because something in engine using alloy..
Alloy can't stand the pressure..
While new engine are using metal..
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CC5 good? And how much per piece for our stock tyre size?
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 16 2011, 11:47 AM)
Bro your are really good in lub explanation. Really appreciate having you here.  notworthy.gif
Oil Man.  sweat.gif  Should call lub man.  laugh.gif
You think to much that proton will launch the package.  whistling.gif
CC5  thumbup.gif . Using it now.
After BOT makan minyak or not?
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How long you been using CC5?

QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Aug 16 2011, 11:50 AM)
CC5 good? And how much per piece for our stock tyre size?
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Many shop recommend me to use CC5..
Currently got promotion RM 240 per pcs
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 01:04 PM)
How long you been using CC5?
Many shop recommend me to use CC5..
Currently got promotion RM 240 per pcs
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this year only change used about 1.5 months. RM 240 per piece is ok. New price. Last rime i changed mine or Rm230. LOL

I use CC5 quite good la. Comfortable than stock. Last time mine is Goodyear.



This post has been edited by vccy: Aug 16 2011, 12:23 PM
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:36 PM

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Sigh... Just got a new pe and have a check on cold start already have the iafm problem....... Damn disappointed, anyone have experience on sc at ss14 subang jaya??


This post has been edited by windboy: Aug 16 2011, 12:37 PM
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:53 PM

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saw carefour selling castrol magnatech 10-40w for RM85, but sold out already

anyone know where i can get it for cheap? used to get it at tesco for RM105... not cheap enough.
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Aug 16 2011, 12:53 PM)
saw carefour selling castrol magnatech 10-40w for RM85, but sold out already

anyone know where i can get it for cheap? used to get it at tesco for RM105... not cheap enough.
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then how about price edge at carefour??
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 16 2011, 12:22 PM)
this year only change used about 1.5 months. RM 240 per piece is ok. New price. Last rime i changed mine or Rm230. LOL

I use CC5 quite good la. Comfortable than stock. Last time mine is Goodyear.
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New price is RM 260.. now got raya promotion ma smile.gif
I planning to change to cc5.. my michelin XM 1 left 50%
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Aug 16 2011, 12:53 PM)
saw carefour selling castrol magnatech 10-40w for RM85, but sold out already

anyone know where i can get it for cheap? used to get it at tesco for RM105... not cheap enough.
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cheap cheap! laugh.gif if not then get from sparepart shop only lor..
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 08:56 AM)
btw what is your new job ?
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Sell backside at Brickfields brows.gif

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 09:52 AM)
is it...then avoid this lu.... tongue.gif
coz i saw a lot ppl go there so just see any member here done their mod at his shop.
Oil Man rclxub.gif  may me think about Oil Man in JAV
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My experience with that shop no good lah. They simply plonk in the extractor, stuffs also cincai install wan. Price reasonable lah, but other than that.. I don't really recommend any PE users to go there.

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 10:24 AM)
Try CC5  smile.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 10:26 am

I asked this to the technician as well..
He said our car not suit to install turbo because something in engine using alloy..
Alloy can't stand the pressure..
While new engine are using metal..
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Alloy-cast engine block lah.. The boost can crack the engine block wan leh.. Scary hor? brows.gif

I still wonder when Proton gonna come out with a diesel engine.. The only diesel there was last time was the Wira diesel.. If Exora come out diesel I'm sure many ppl will buy.. cos the torque is important for MPVs/SUVs..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 16 2011, 11:20 AM)
can..alot of campro engine BOT at xenonsport ady..quite reliable..can get around 170whp for stage 1 without change piston and block..stage 2 not suit for auto,bcoz too high horsepower..around can get 220-240whp for stage 2..
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Yea.. Can memang can.. But u must understand the manufacturer's point of view. They want their engines to last, so when they wanna turbocharge a car they rather rebuild the engine using different, more sturdy materials to withstand the pressure.. For modders like xenonsport etc etc, they can make ur engine reliable also if u want to, but by replacing the pistons etc etc, the cost will go up. Then demand will decrease. Then they cannot make profit.

I think turbo still dont suit stock auto gearbox no matter what stage it is. There is a limit amount of torque that our stock gearbox can take, and by pushing closer to the limit u're actually decreasing ur gearbox's lifespan.

Unless of course, u're rich and money isn't an issue, u could've settled for a better stock turbo-ed car (like the Peugeot 308 Turbo, Golf TSI, Polo) but u rather splurge the money on BoT-ing a PE because u wanna prove to the world that a turbo PE can tapau McLaren MP4-12C. There are actually many ppl like that. I just don't see the point why they do that (drop a 1.8 GSR engine into a Wira when they could've afford an Evo).

QUOTE(windboy @ Aug 16 2011, 12:36 PM)
Sigh... Just got a new pe and have a check on cold start already have the iafm problem....... Damn disappointed, anyone have experience on sc at ss14 subang jaya??
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No idea, but since u're already at Subang Jaya, why don't just go straight to CoSE to claim?
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 10:47 AM)
when this happen? should be cavino la.... hmm.gif
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Aiyo....I never need to rape women wan....so far only women come rape me...so I cover myself with oil to escape them lor, makes me harder to catch hold on....the one in Penang copy cat lar...but he go rape ppl pulak...spoil my local orang minyak reputation...

Honestly tho...I also still learning but now "heng heng" reading up and discuss a lot this subject due to changing to FS abt half year ago.

Some more recently bought Idemitsu FS way cheaper than workshop, so read up to see if can know celup wan or not.

I'm sort of completionist and play safe guy, so when I wanted to use something for long term, I do research kaw kaw on the subject before doing the switch. Even buying my City earlier took me half a year before I buy. Only thing I buy fast fast without delay is rubber.....but then when it comes to strawberry flavor, peppermint, florescent...I stood there for minutes before I decide..
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 16 2011, 01:46 PM)
Aiyo....I never need to rape women wan....so far only women come rape me...so I cover myself with oil to escape them lor, makes me harder to catch hold on....the one in Penang copy cat lar...but he go rape ppl pulak...spoil my local orang minyak reputation...

Honestly tho...I also still learning but now "heng heng" reading up and discuss a lot this subject due to changing to FS abt half year ago.

Some more recently bought Idemitsu FS way cheaper than workshop, so read up to see if can know celup wan or not.

I'm sort of completionist and play safe guy, so when I wanted to use something for long term, I do research kaw kaw on the subject before doing the switch. Even buying my City earlier took me half a year before I buy. Only thing I buy fast fast without delay is rubber.....but then when it comes to strawberry flavor, peppermint, florescent...I stood there for minutes before I decide..
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Buy rubber also must think leh. U cincai buy later cincai pop 1 twin babies come out. Then that time I can wish u congratulations, Double Happiness 'kai tai fun hei'!! brows.gif Then u have to headache about spending another million on each of them.. whistling.gif

Flavour apa susah? Pull the 1 that's tasting in to choose lah.. She's the 1 eating it anyway, not u. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 16 2011, 01:46 PM)
Aiyo....I never need to rape women wan....so far only women come rape me...so I cover myself with oil to escape them lor, makes me harder to catch hold on....the one in Penang copy cat lar...but he go rape ppl pulak...spoil my local orang minyak reputation...

Honestly tho...I also still learning but now "heng heng" reading up and discuss a lot this subject due to changing to FS abt half year ago.

Some more recently bought Idemitsu FS way cheaper than workshop, so read up to see if can know celup wan or not.

I'm sort of completionist and play safe guy, so when I wanted to use something for long term, I do research kaw kaw on the subject before doing the switch. Even buying my City earlier took me half a year before I buy. Only thing I buy fast fast without delay is rubber.....but then when it comes to strawberry flavor, peppermint, florescent...I stood there for minutes before I decide..
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go buy black pepper, mushroom, herb, tomyam, kaya, peanut butter sauce la...
pour on the sausage n squeeze on abalone!! sure yummi!! whistling.gif



This post has been edited by dorinyeah: Aug 16 2011, 01:58 PM
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post Aug 16 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 01:55 PM)
go buy black pepper, mushroom, herb, tomyam, kaya, peanut butter sauce la...
pour on the sausage n squeeze on abalone!! sure yummi!!  whistling.gif
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Tomyam & black pepper?? shocking.gif Walao.. damn spicy wan leh..
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 01:57 PM)
Tomyam & black pepper?? shocking.gif Walao.. damn spicy wan leh..
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hot and spicy!!
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 16 2011, 01:46 PM)
Aiyo....I never need to rape women wan....so far only women come rape me...so I cover myself with oil to escape them lor, makes me harder to catch hold on....the one in Penang copy cat lar...but he go rape ppl pulak...spoil my local orang minyak reputation...

Honestly tho...I also still learning but now "heng heng" reading up and discuss a lot this subject due to changing to FS abt half year ago.

Some more recently bought Idemitsu FS way cheaper than workshop, so read up to see if can know celup wan or not.

I'm sort of completionist and play safe guy, so when I wanted to use something for long term, I do research kaw kaw on the subject before doing the switch. Even buying my City earlier took me half a year before I buy. Only thing I buy fast fast without delay is rubber.....but then when it comes to strawberry flavor, peppermint, florescent...I stood there for minutes before I decide..
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yeah rubber got diffrent tread like tyer also mah.....maybe she like the revers screw tread....
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:01 PM)
yeah rubber got diffrent tread like tyer also mah.....maybe she like the revers screw tread....
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doh.gif gone liao la this thread...
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 01:45 PM)
Sell backside at Brickfields brows.gif

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doh.gif brickfield is not for new comer it was the territory of ah gua,..... then end up your customer are mostly ah gua laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
doh.gif gone liao la this thread...
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just spam!!

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:04 PM)
doh.gif  brickfield is not for new comer it was the territory of ah gua,..... then end up your customer are mostly ah gua  laugh.gif
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rclxub.gif he go satisfy ah gua??

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