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post Aug 11 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(eeqan @ Aug 11 2011, 02:06 PM)
Matrix: owh okay.. thanks for the info.. seems duit raya kena potong this year hahahah

xandras: my car is 2 years already
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Owh.. then TBSS ur steering assembly not covered anymore lah..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 05:41 PM)
who sat in the putra b4 tis?my fren putra was totally dun have additional soundproof for whole car..but he stated when raining,the car still very quiet even roof oso dun have "tak tak"sound lo..he stated is totally different wit his previous wira..the windnoise oso a bit onli..after hear wat he mentioned,seems like our persona more noisy lo doh.gif
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U tell him.. PPLYN TS said that his Putra is the best.. The fastest, the most luxurious, the nicest, looks the best & can beat Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mercedes SLS/SLR/Bentley Supersport.. Even Bugatti Veyron also loose.. Rolls Royce soundproof like 1st generation Datsun 120Y compared to his car..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 11 2011, 08:50 PM)
Oh ok.
Thanks bro.
Thanks for the link.
btw xan and guys, I wondering if one or two plug spoil will cause jerking when moving during the engine in cold condition?
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Yeah it can cause ur car to jerk. But on all conditions, not only during cold. Faulty ignition coil can cause heavy jerking too. If ur car is using spark plug cables (just for general knowledge as all Persona/PEs uses ignition coil), check if the spark plug cable is melted or came in contact with some metal parts in the car as this may cause short circuit & as the appropriate voltage is not sent to the spark plugs, it may cause ignition retardation, thus causing the jerkings.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:15 PM)
Owh.. then TBSS ur steering assembly not covered anymore lah..
U tell him.. PPLYN TS said that his Putra is the best.. The fastest, the most luxurious, the nicest, looks the best & can beat Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mercedes SLS/SLR/Bentley Supersport.. Even Bugatti Veyron also loose.. Rolls Royce soundproof like 1st generation Datsun 120Y compared to his car..
Yeah it can cause ur car to jerk. But on all conditions, not only during cold. Faulty ignition coil can cause heavy jerking too. If ur car is using spark plug cables (just for general knowledge as all Persona/PEs uses ignition coil), check if the spark plug cable is melted or came in contact with some metal parts in the car as this may cause short circuit & as the appropriate voltage is not sent to the spark plugs, it may cause ignition retardation, thus causing the jerkings.
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If use ignition coil don't have spark plug cable right?
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 11 2011, 11:20 PM)
If use ignition coil don't have spark plug cable right?
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Dun have. But if ur ignition coil kaput it can give the same effect also.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 11 2011, 04:37 PM)
Technically speaking.. Whenever the police want to conduct a roadblock, A top ranking police officer must be there to supervise. Top ranking as in the rank of the police is at least 3 stars or 1 crown and above ( the pangkat on the shoulder strap there). Then only its legal.. All those 3 man ones are technically illegal. So if they were to insist on issuing me a saman or asking for more bribe. I would surely shoot them on the spot ady..
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For sepcial OPS, 3 paku (cheif inspector) must there usually this dude sit inside black tint pajero do nothing or sleep those ma chai still got change to cari makan ........But for those on duty to patrol 1or2 paku (junior inspector) can set road block already, most of the time they aim on lorry and motoris .......ps:this is applicable for traffic police only, but for normal police (blue uniform) road block i donno. tongue.gif


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 05:41 PM)
who sat in the putra b4 tis?my fren putra was totally dun have additional soundproof for whole car..but he stated when raining,the car still very quiet even roof oso dun have "tak tak"sound lo..he stated is totally different wit his previous wira..the windnoise oso a bit onli..after hear wat he mentioned,seems like our persona more noisy lo doh.gif
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theoritically putra of cause will have better NVH, because .
1. putra is small and slimer than PE and it abit rounded than PE.
2. the most importent is Putra only got 2 door and 2 window so the gap for noise and wind sound more lesser than PE lah..... doh.gif
3. Putra internal roof using pvc lather warp and have thin spongy filet inside now all car are using fabric card board type for inner roof it is just like the egg tray wrap with fabric. shakehead.gif

This post has been edited by ngeo88: Aug 11 2011, 11:38 PM
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:15 PM)
Owh.. then TBSS ur steering assembly not covered anymore lah..
U tell him.. PPLYN TS said that his Putra is the best.. The fastest, the most luxurious, the nicest, looks the best & can beat Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mercedes SLS/SLR/Bentley Supersport.. Even Bugatti Veyron also loose.. Rolls Royce soundproof like 1st generation Datsun 120Y compared to his car..
Yeah it can cause ur car to jerk. But on all conditions, not only during cold. Faulty ignition coil can cause heavy jerking too. If ur car is using spark plug cables (just for general knowledge as all Persona/PEs uses ignition coil), check if the spark plug cable is melted or came in contact with some metal parts in the car as this may cause short circuit & as the appropriate voltage is not sent to the spark plugs, it may cause ignition retardation, thus causing the jerkings.
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dun need so angry gua ohmy.gif i juz wanna knw whether is true or not lo..since putra new car price is near to RM80k,so i juz wanna knw whether putra NVH is better than wira or not lo tongue.gif u drive putra b4 tis?
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:37 PM)
dun need so angry gua ohmy.gif i juz wanna knw whether is true or not lo..since putra new car price is near to RM80k,so i juz wanna knw whether putra NVH is better than wira or not lo tongue.gif u drive putra b4 tis?
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eh now still got putra new car for sell....? hmm.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:30 PM)
For sepcial OPS, 3 paku (cheif inspector) must there usually this dude sit inside black tint pajero do nothing or sleep those ma chai still got change to cari makan ........But for those on duty to patrol 1or2 paku (junior inspector) can set road block already, most of the time they aim on lorry and motoris .......ps:this is applicable for traffic police only, but for normal police (blue uniform) road block i donno. tongue.gif


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:36 pm
theoritically putra of cause will have better NVH, because .
1. putra is small and slimer than PE and it abit rounded than PE.
2. the most importent is Putra only got 2 door and 2 window so the gap for noise and wind sound more lesser than PE lah..... doh.gif
3. Putra internal roof using pvc lather warp and have thin spongy filet inside now all car are using fabric card board type for inner roof it is just like the egg tray wrap with fabric. shakehead.gif
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Try a Satria/Satria Neo then come back tell me whether their NVH is better.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:37 PM)
dun need so angry gua ohmy.gif i juz wanna knw whether is true or not lo..since putra new car price is near to RM80k,so i juz wanna knw whether putra NVH is better than wira or not lo tongue.gif u drive putra b4 tis?
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No angry ah. Feel ur fren very lansi oni. As if all other cars in the world are inferior compared to his Putra. Or maybe his ears got insulated from all the rattles & noises from his turbo exhaust d? wink.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:40 PM)
Try a Satria/Satria Neo then come back tell me whether their NVH is better.
No angry ah. Feel ur fren very lansi oni. As if all other cars in the world are inferior compared to his Putra. Or maybe his ears got insulated from all the rattles & noises from his turbo exhaust d? wink.gif
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maybe due tohis exhaust noise lo..but honestly,do u think the wira and putra NVH will be same???since the price of wira and putra was much difference lo..so if consider price range,wira and persona are cheaper than putra lo..so maybe will be better NVH for putra,isnt it?
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:40 PM)
Try a Satria/Satria Neo then come back tell me whether their NVH is better.
No angry ah. Feel ur fren very lansi oni. As if all other cars in the world are inferior compared to his Putra. Or maybe his ears got insulated from all the rattles & noises from his turbo exhaust d? wink.gif
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Satria/Satria Neo different story because the front and back wheel short distance the NVH will accumulate in the room of car and also they don't have boot so it will be bad NVH.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:39 PM)
eh now still got putra new car for sell....? hmm.gif
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i means b4 tis lo..
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:47 PM

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More observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:48 pmMore observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.

This post has been edited by roy2005: Aug 11 2011, 11:48 PM
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM)
maybe due tohis exhaust noise lo..but honestly,do u think the wira and putra NVH will be same???since the price of wira and putra was much difference lo..so if consider price range,wira and persona are cheaper than putra lo..so maybe will be better NVH for putra,isnt it?
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bro putra 1.8 issit 80k, is the current price or last time, last time can understand lah not much 1.8 car as light as putra and in proton range there are very less 1.6 car so putra with 1.8 can sell a bit expansive lah. Putra came out as performace sport car target, now satria taking it place ady.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM)
Satria/Satria Neo different story because the front and back wheel short distance the NVH will accumulate in the room of car and also they don't have boot so it will be bad NVH.
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laugh.gif Then mind explain why Scirocco's NVH so darn nice? It's all down to the material used & R&D on aerodynamics. Putra is literally a rebadged Lancer CC, so the aerodynamics are fine, no complaints there. But the materials used inside; Have u ever taken off the door panel of a Putra before?

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:46 PM)
i means b4 tis lo..
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RM 80k hmm.gif

QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:47 PM)
More observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
    speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
    is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:48 pmMore observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
    speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
    is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.
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130 KM/h @ 3500 RPM...

Steering shaking is due to improper balancing or overinflated tyre..

Cornering if not stable then there's no buying point for PE d..
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:47 PM)
More observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
    speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
    is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:48 pmMore observations fr PE Auto M-Line:
(1) speed 100km/h @ rev 2600 ;
    speed 110km/h @ rev 2900
    is it normal?
(2) feel a bit shaking at around 110km/h and above.
(2) cornering is stable -- car planted to the ground eventhough my heart is floating inside my body.
(3) PE's white color is Proton White.
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laugh.gif it is normal rpm, shaky felling can ask sc to check wheel banlancing if your car are 1k KM below it is free....but things are really abnormal are the English women in your car laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:29 PM)
Dun have. But if ur ignition coil kaput it can give the same effect also.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation..
Tomorrow will check the spark plug..
Hope is spark plug problem so I no need leave my car overnight at sc

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post Aug 11 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM)
Satria/Satria Neo different story because the front and back wheel short distance the NVH will accumulate in the room of car and also they don't have boot so it will be bad NVH.
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putra front and back wheel distance onli 2440mm,PE is 2600mm lo..
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:45 PM)
maybe due tohis exhaust noise lo..but honestly,do u think the wira and putra NVH will be same???since the price of wira and putra was much difference lo..so if consider price range,wira and persona are cheaper than putra lo..so maybe will be better NVH for putra,isnt it?
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The reason why Proton overcharge Putra & sell it to us is because of it's engine & it's sporty characteristics. It's like buying a Ferrari at RM 1 mil; the NVH is not neccessarily better than a car that costs a tenth of its' price. Price doesn't justify everything, my dear friend.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 11:53 PM)
laugh.gif Then mind explain why Scirocco's NVH so darn nice? It's all down to the material used & R&D on aerodynamics. Putra is literally a rebadged Lancer CC, so the aerodynamics are fine, no complaints there. But the materials used inside; Have u ever taken off the door panel of a Putra before?
RM 80k hmm.gif
130 KM/h @ 3500 RPM...

Steering shaking is due to improper balancing or overinflated tyre..

Cornering if not stable then there's no buying point for PE d..
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our PE aerodynamic is doh.gif lo..tats why NVH not good as putra,rite?my fren car was use adjustable absorber and 17inch rim wit 205/40/17..according from him,the car still feel stable when cruising 200kmh..original putra weight is 1075kg,but his car is 1170kg nw..got 3 amp and 1 12inch woofer in car..somemore engine oso transplant to evo3,i think tat cause his car weight more heavier than stock lo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:55 PM)
laugh.gif it is normal rpm, shaky felling can ask sc to check wheel banlancing if your car are 1k KM below it is free....but things are really abnormal are the English women in your car  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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No more unidentified woman speaking in car. smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 11 2011, 11:56 PM)
putra front and back wheel distance onli 2440mm,PE is 2600mm lo..
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PE got 4 door 4 window more gap more openig lo

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