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ngeo88
post Jul 26 2011, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Jul 26 2011, 03:31 PM)
mang at bottle it self already write design for BMW and mercedez, the oil design for perfomance car, use magnatec also enough no need waste money
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magnectech rm 100 change every 5k km: 10k km = rm 200
edge rm 165 change every 10k km : 10k km = rm 165

rm200 - rm 165 = rm35.00 saving .......waste money blink.gif

if i am not wrong it said "design accordance to BMW and mercedez" and not "design for BMW and mercedez"

"design accordance to BMW and mercedez" = means it is suitable to use for BMW and mercedez but not restricted others brand of car to use it.

"design for BMW and mercedez" = means it is only for BMW and mercedez others use at your own risk.

This post has been edited by ngeo88: Jul 26 2011, 03:51 PM
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:22 PM)
i Thnik one of our member post this here last month and it get some of our memeber here fr** that.......
the statement means if oil turn black easlly means the engine oil help to clean the rubbish inside the engine, else if the engine oil not turning black it was useless and cannot clean the engine. so now lets THINK THAT:

1. Engine oil main function is lubricate the engine high speed moving parts instead of CLEANING function. When the engine turn black it measn the original oil molecule has change and it will not able to act as lube to protect the engine parts any more.
Exp: go to see your kitchien wok if the wok not was properly the cooking oil will become black and stick at the bottom.

2. When drain our engine oil if it seen in very black colour it means it the oil it self are seriously in poor quality or the engine is aging, els it must be engine failure and cause it over heat and create carbon.
THINK THAT: If our car are new and nothing wrong to our engine why our drained engine oil should seen in very dark black colour?

3. If the drain engine oil are look very dark black it said to clean rubbish from engine is true.
THEN: when our car has black smoke came out also the engine running self cleaning to exhaust out the rubbish from our engine is it true..... whistling.gif


Added on July 26, 2011, 3:26 pm
yes but it dose have the different at our cold star event our lowest temperature are 28C but if compare to 5W are still thiner, thats why Castro call it Sport edge and they bring in 2 type 0W-40 and 5W-40 in different price.
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Ya, bro. You are right but is the difference very significant? Here are the three oils datasheet.
Please compare the viscosity at 40 degree C for 0W-40, 5W-40 and a more thinner grade 5W-30.
Attached File  castrol_edge_5w_40.pdf ( 118.8k ) Number of downloads: 10
Attached File  EDGESport0W_40.pdf ( 25.27k ) Number of downloads: 9
Attached File  castrol_magnatec_5w_30_engine_oil_ford_a1.pdf ( 56.75k ) Number of downloads: 4



Added on July 26, 2011, 3:47 pm
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:40 PM)
magnectech rm 100 change every 5k km: 10k km = rm 200
edge rm 175 change every 10k km : 10k km = rm 165

rm200 - rm 165 =  rm35.00 saving  .......waste money    blink.gif
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Haha.. Fully where got waste money want. If waste money, sure market don't want this product.

This post has been edited by Fubar20: Jul 26 2011, 03:47 PM
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:44 PM)
Ya, bro. You are right but is the difference very significant? Here are the three oils datasheet.
Please compare the viscosity at 40 degree C for 0W-40, 5W-40 and a more thinner grade 5W-30.
Attached File  castrol_edge_5w_40.pdf ( 118.8k ) Number of downloads: 10
Attached File  EDGESport0W_40.pdf ( 25.27k ) Number of downloads: 9
Attached File  castrol_magnatec_5w_30_engine_oil_ford_a1.pdf ( 56.75k ) Number of downloads: 4



Added on July 26, 2011, 3:47 pm
Haha.. Fully where got waste money want. If waste money, sure market don't want this product.
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to be frank i never try the 0W oil yet doh.gif since Zeng and Xan here also not recomented and our Campro are enough rawh.....when using 5W-40 so not thingking to use it. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:44 PM)
Ya, bro. You are right but is the difference very significant? Here are the three oils datasheet.
Please compare the viscosity at 40 degree C for 0W-40, 5W-40 and a more thinner grade 5W-30.
Attached File  castrol_edge_5w_40.pdf ( 118.8k ) Number of downloads: 10
Attached File  EDGESport0W_40.pdf ( 25.27k ) Number of downloads: 9
Attached File  castrol_magnatec_5w_30_engine_oil_ford_a1.pdf ( 56.75k ) Number of downloads: 4



Added on July 26, 2011, 3:47 pm
Haha.. Fully where got waste money want. If waste money, sure market don't want this product.
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when see this datasheet i rclxub.gif


Added on July 26, 2011, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:50 PM)
to be frank i never try the 0W oil yet   doh.gif  since Zeng and Xan here also not recomented and our Campro are enough rawh.....when using 5W-40 so not thingking to use it. biggrin.gif
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i think zeng gonna use this castro 0-40. if not mistaken...

This post has been edited by dorinyeah: Jul 26 2011, 03:54 PM
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 26 2011, 03:52 PM)
when see this datasheet i rclxub.gif


Added on July 26, 2011, 3:53 pm
i think zeng gonna use this castro 0-40. if not mistaken...
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he wanna be lab rat or cannot find a cheap Edge so have to tolerate for 0W-40 finally. laugh.gif

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post Jul 26 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 26 2011, 02:09 AM)
yeah mah first nite in Penang fark.. XD..
Denion case Siham cracked and gone.. Must be geoduck too big.
Normally increase a bit.. Increase by 2-3psi.
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brows.gif His geoduck koyak the whole piston ring + burn & melt the piston inside also..

QUOTE(unemployed @ Jul 26 2011, 08:54 AM)
what tint films u guys using?? i park my car under open parking lot, at afternoon when i get my car then steering wheel is burning my hand...and i feel like toasted!! arhgg
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Mine TintMaster Titanium Black 8mil..

QUOTE(vccy @ Jul 26 2011, 08:57 AM)
Ops  yeah feel very sleepy ma. Gonna sleep already.
I sleep already. 
Wow so your Geoduck enjoyed?

Guys this fellow pm me for OEM rear persona disc brake.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1972492&hl=
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Of course enjoy lar brows.gif.. Siham die die also wan me to stay another nite but I had to work.. + pokai d after staying there so long.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 26 2011, 09:42 AM)
Even if you put VKool, you will also get toasted, just not toasted black. I'm using VKool Elite.

Use a windscreen cover to cover the front dash...works better.
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Agreed.. Just get a windscreen cover.. Cheaper, more reliable & better solution.. Can protect ur dashboard from UV rays also..

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 26 2011, 09:46 AM)
wah...this is 1200 leh... seem like not include installation la...
OEM rear persona disc brake mean original proton brake?
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RM 1200 I can stay penang for another 3 nites d drool.gif

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 10:37 AM)
haiz.....  always missed you guys post pic....btw nice ported and polish job for CKT at G.hotel penang Xan .......


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Port & Polish.. brows.gif I like that..

QUOTE(luenywoon @ Jul 26 2011, 10:44 AM)
Windscreen cover is so inconvenient..
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That's the best solution to keep heat level in ur car low..

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 26 2011, 11:29 AM)
PnP not dig the cylinder wall and change larger piston meh? then wat it should call ah??
my fren told me PnP is make engine displacement bigger like 1.6 dig to 1.8 like tat...
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Ha? dig cylinder wall & change larger piston?? rclxub.gif No such thing la sayang.. P&P is done by relocating the air intake flow path to make the air flow smoother & more optimum. Yes, u need to dig the cylinder wall a bit, but no piston replacement is required. The smoother & smaller degree of the bend before reaching the cylinder head eases the air flow into the engine..

QUOTE(dzie25 @ Jul 26 2011, 11:44 AM)
HI HI All,  I'm New To Persona.. just bought my Car Last Month ago ! At first Greatz to Thread 21yos !

I have a question, i'm having a B-Line, i thinking to change RIM+ Tayer.. so... original is 15inch .. how was the feed back on 16inch.. or no difference at all.......

Thanks !
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Congrats.. Colour? Transmission? =)

16 inch gives a lighter steering feel & better handling & high speed stability compared to 15 inch, but 17 inch rims gives much better handling through corners.

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jul 26 2011, 12:18 PM)
Hmm, always say say only.. now want make it happen d...

Xan this weekend free? Salary out i pass to u then recommend extractor liao..

mau install...
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Weekend ka? Friday boleh?

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 12:38 PM)
PnP got few stage lah, if wanna make bigger piston also can lah...but same as for CKT after so many PnP sure need to insatall bigeer valve due to the angine block HOLE become bigger and LOOSE .....
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sweat.gif Bigger & loose rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 26 2011, 02:45 PM)
Reading me makes me doubt Castrol Magnatec..

"In the additive package used in the manufacturing of lubricants, they have 2 main functions. They are 1. detergent package and 2. dispersant package. The additive in 1 is supposed to clean up all the "rubbish" like acids, carbon, rusts, water vapour generated from the combustion. Dispersant package is to disperse all the "rubbish" in the oil so that they are equally and completely disperse throughout/inside the oil. These "rubbish" if not disperse may clog or stick to the moving parts inside the engine. Also they may not be totally drained out during changing of the engine oil. Many people have a misconception if the engine oil drained out during the oil change is very black or dirty, the oil is not so good. Actually, the reverse is true. A good engine oil with good additive package will clear as much "rubbish" inside the engine during the oil change."

except taken from a supposedly ex-Castrol oil man in autoworld forum.
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That means minyak masak that has been reused over & over again till it's pitch black is actually healthy for us? laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 03:50 PM)
to be frank i never try the 0W oil yet  doh.gif  since Zeng and Xan here also not recomented and our Campro are enough rawh.....when using 5W-40 so not thingking to use it. biggrin.gif
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I also never tried 0W-40 and 5W-40. But from the recommendations from forum, websites and also the data from Castrol made me want to try it for my 10 K service later.
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 26 2011, 03:52 PM)
when see this datasheet i rclxub.gif


Added on July 26, 2011, 3:53 pm
i think zeng gonna use this castro 0-40. if not mistaken...
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So, u are the one who download it! laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 26 2011, 04:06 PM)
I also never tried 0W-40 and 5W-40. But from the recommendations from forum, websites and also the data from Castrol made me want to try it for my 10 K service later.

So, u are the one who download it!  laugh.gif
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5W-40 still ok lah.. 0W-40 a bit too thin.. Our engine in our Malaysian weather mana boleh tahan.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 26 2011, 04:07 PM)
5W-40 still ok lah.. 0W-40 a bit too thin.. Our engine in our Malaysian weather mana boleh tahan.. rclxub.gif
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Up to you lah. tongue.gif The data is in front of your eyes. Like I said, 0W-40 or 5W-40 is still SAE 40 grade oil which
performed nearly same at 40 and 100 degree C.
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 26 2011, 02:13 PM)
when u go service?
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Soon lo smile.gif
Why?

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 26 2011, 02:14 PM)
0W-40 is Edge Sport and 5W-40 is Edge only. Both are fully synthetic.
Why you want to use fully to service at 5K? Isn't suppose to be semi? hmm.gif
Last week I saw 0W-40 and Magnatec 10W-40 Semi only at Shah Alam.
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Suppose I aim to service at 10k..
That day I sleep in the car for 10hours..
So I plan to service my car earlier lo

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jul 26 2011, 02:26 PM)
5W-40 I'm using it RM165 1 month ago. tongue.gif
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Mana beli? drool.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 26 2011, 04:13 PM)
Up to you lah. tongue.gif The data is in front of your eyes. Like I said, 0W-40 or 5W-40 is still SAE 40 grade oil which
performed nearly same at 40 and 100 degree C.
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The performance of the engine oil is not what I'm worried about. It's the cold start protection.
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post Jul 26 2011, 04:32 PM

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Hey guys,

Anyone knows where to get the car opti coated??
And how much will it be roughly??

Pains of owning a white car sad.gif
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QUOTE(luenywoon @ Jul 26 2011, 04:32 PM)
Hey guys,

Anyone knows where to get the car opti coated??
And how much will it be roughly??

Pains of owning a white car  sad.gif
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Sunway ada.. U can contact KC for it also.. He might be able to give u a special price..

The last I checked was RM 600 onwards for a whole car.. But forgot where I got that price from..
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QUOTE(luenywoon @ Jul 26 2011, 04:32 PM)
Hey guys,

Anyone knows where to get the car opti coated??
And how much will it be roughly??

Pains of owning a white car  sad.gif
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You can try Sierra Glow in Subang or somewhere, 5 years warranty, glass-based sealent protection...you just google it for more info. My neighbour just polished there for his new 2.0 Forte.

I'm using Magic Glare, a glass-plexin protection sealent but can last only 2 years before renewal.
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 26 2011, 04:40 PM)
You can try Sierra Glow in Subang or somewhere, 5 years warranty, glass-based sealent protection...you just google it for more info. My neighbour just polished there for his new 2.0 Forte.

I'm using Magic Glare, a glass-plexin protection sealent but can last only 2 years before renewal.
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How much u did urs ah?
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hi guys....

i have a silly question....
in service book only stated servicing for 1K, 5K, 10K, 20K....etc etc....
so...can i do my 15K servicing outside?

will it affect my warranty??
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QUOTE(panda*Pan @ Jul 26 2011, 04:48 PM)
hi guys....

i have a silly question....
in service book only stated servicing for 1K, 5K, 10K, 20K....etc etc....
so...can i do my 15K servicing outside?

will it affect my warranty??
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No.. Make sure you use back Proton Oil Filter..
I service my 15k outside as well smile.gif
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QUOTE(luenywoon @ Jul 26 2011, 04:32 PM)
Hey guys,

Anyone knows where to get the car opti coated??
And how much will it be roughly??

Pains of owning a white car  sad.gif
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go find this guys he sell and very kind to teach how to use the optimum product, he run many demo for car detailing.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1720414
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QUOTE(KKW @ Jul 26 2011, 04:52 PM)
No.. Make sure you use back Proton Oil Filter..
I service my 15k outside as well  smile.gif
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Thanx for answering bro...
CoSE did quote me RM 250 for d 15K service, abit shock shakehead.gif sweat.gif

also CoSE reject to reflash my ECU coz it says already updated version....
d funny thing is when i complain bout gear upshift and downshift not responding, he sez its d ECU doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

now thinking of installing GC and VS....will it help?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif


This is all because of my bad experience going genting last 2 week....dang!! vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(panda*Pan @ Jul 26 2011, 04:57 PM)
Thanx for answering bro...
CoSE did quote me RM 250 for d 15K service, abit shock  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif

also CoSE reject to reflash my ECU coz it says already updated version....
d funny thing is when i complain bout gear upshift and downshift not responding, he sez its d ECU  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

now thinking of installing GC and VS....will it help??  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
This is all because of my bad experience going genting last 2 week....dang!! vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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What happened at Genting? You lose money or meet those 'underworld' fellas? laugh.gif

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