just try ya best bro... these stuffs wont cost a big whole in ya wallet while able to provide decent amount of fun... ur into ram tweakin rite? haswell is nice but d budget can be doubled or trippled. ddr3 3k+ is really temptin but budget wise...

good news is pokde will be joinin d fm2 bandwagon soon... i'm waitin for him to release his awesomeness once he get his hands on a fm2+ mobo...

i'd say yes if d upgrade wont caused u an arm & leg. better oc headroom, lower volt needed, improved power consumption, slightly improved imc... however, u need some luck in gettin a better vishera. avoid earlier batch (might not be applicable to all) coz my 1st 8350 was lemon, 2nd one worked alot better.

dont use fraps to record game play, iirc d video will be records is @ fixed fps. if i'm not mistaken fraps eat up lotsa cpu power hence d lagginess during game play + fraps running.

for gfx issue could it be gfx driver related?

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 1 2013, 10:44 AM

990x evo r2.0... below RM500.

y not, thou in general richland is more overclockable than trinity. if luck is with u u can see 4.4~4.5GHz for 24/7, or slightly higher.

stock vid differs from chip to chip i think, d lower d better but usually bios (with auto) will overvolt it to lower 1.4V region. there are lotsa room for u to undervolt if u dont oc, or some oc headroom if u stick with so called stock volt. it's has always been like this for AMD chips for few generations from what i observed.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 23 2013, 01:43 PM

agreed with u sir, psu is d bigger possible culprit instead of mobo. i forget d last time i heard an ASUS mobo does a coil whining.

fellow ROG'er to d rescue...

oh if that's d case it's obvious already, get a seasonic instead. even a bronze one in m12 650/750w will do. usin a "weakened" psu might kill ya over stuffs slowly in longer term...

head over to johnny guru & check those reviews on d locally available units.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Cat&recatnum=13

good choice & u should stick to that imo. when it comes to AMD, asus boards would always be 1st in d list to consider. Great ocibility & supports & not to forget their awesome apps like AI Suite & etc.

Ram wise i'd say get micron based (if 2 x4GB) to play play with tight timing (9-9-9) @ 2133 or below. Samsung/Hynix can do 2400 or higher but lax timing (10-12-12/11-13-13) is a must & d ceiling (for prime stable) seems to halt around 24xx (could be user problem thou). if 2GB modules u'll have more options like Elpida BBSE, micron D9KPT, PSC just like d good old am3 oc days.

d master has spoken...

nice to have u back bro...

never really do head to head comparison but i'd like to think tight timing better performance but high frequency is fun too. can't really advised on which to get, it's all down to ya preference, here's some input which i hope can help a 'lil:

crucial ballistix tactical (non led)/elite 1866 cl9 > Micron D9PFJ (credits to Lengchai) - 9-9-9 @ 2133MHz w/ 1.65v OK for 24/7

Gskill ARES 2133 CL9 (Hynix ?FR) - 9-11-10 @ 2133MHz / 10-12-12 @ 2400MHz


samsung lv lp 1600MHz CL11 is pretty much same like ARES but slightly "lax"er timing & @ 2400MHz, 2T is a must.

I believe all cost lower than RM300, not so sure bout their availability locally but i think u'll have higher chance in gettin gskill & crucial in MY.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Nov 26 2013, 09:35 AM

crucial is definitely usin micron chippies bro coz it's d subsidiary company of d latter. yup, 16gb is more future proof. if u use ps or playin with vm, 16gb is d way to go.

can u define good? if in term of IPC (instruction per cycle), power efficiency, multitasking etc, intel are generally better. FX still got alot to catch up but not really that bad for 24/7 machine.

well said sir...

imo u should wait n see bro, nowadays AMD is learning fast (from intel), new chips most likely require new socket (d trend now is white socket for older gen while black socket for new, eventhou they are quite similar). kinda disappointed with d news that Kaveri APU confirmed (from what i read) need a new socket (fm2+, black socket) mobo in order for it to run, older fm2 mobo can't accommodate d new chips. pretty sure non APU streamroller will be on newer socket (than AM3+)...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Dec 9 2013, 12:28 PM

possible with right kind of ram + skill bro, it was pretty hard for me to tame it (p95 stable) with the components + skill i had at that moment.

not really bro, one just need to read up more on ram tweakin part & do more trial & error, of course it must be accomplished by right kinda hardware (chip, IMC in particular as well as ram). i wasn't well equipped (read up, h.ware) during that time

yup, miss those days. it takes lotsa time/efforts/resources to organize one. old unker like me got family & work commitment (excuse ) while new gen AMD clockers (wait, is there any???) are all in hibernate mode.

bios oc is a must if u were to make it permanent. AOD/AI suite (or whatever comes from manufacturers) are best for gauging d oc potential of ya setup WITHOUT d need to restart ya pc. there are things that can't be altered in windows based oc tools like mem timings, nb multiplier etc. usually i only use windows based oc to tweak voltages, apart from that, all set in bios.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Feb 3 2014, 09:36 AM

major concern is hdd, not really bothered with d rest. but to think that there's a need to reformat + installation of drivers, there's no harm to try oc gradually instead of directly pump d clock to x.xGHz. not like if u run it @ x.xGHz for sometimes (even it's not stable) it will become stable later on. dont think ppl do "Burn In" nemore like last time...

yes bro, AMD thread is like a home to me in OCU...

i wouldn't torture my ssd that way, best if u got an old platter hdd, & prepare d image after u completed drivers & software installation. then u oc usin that hdd (it can be tortured to death w/o gettin much sympathy ) to find out d max clock for cpu/ram/nb.

keepin d vrm cooled becomes more & more important nowadays (beside having decent load temp @ chip) in AMD oc (at least). u dont wanna pop any mosfet which will directly void manufacturer warranty.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Mar 28 2014, 11:41 AM

PD (pliedriver) is fun to play with. u can expect 4.5~4.7/8GHz prime stable, anything higher really depends on:

1. chip itself
2. mobo (especially how beefy is d vrm)
3. cooling @ cpu
4. possibly psu

TCP 812 is an above average cooler, d only complaint is @ AMD, it's of north-south (top bottom) orientation instead of d preferred east-west orientation.

as for cpu/ram/nb oc, d mileage u can expect is around ~4.8GHz cpu, 2400MHz ram, & ~2600MHz nb. keep vcore below 1.5v, vcpu-nb (vimc) below 1.4v, ram wise depends on d sticks u use. for 2400MHz, u wont really need > 1.7v in general. these however were all my findings usin my previous setup (HERE) , they might be diff for yas.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Mar 28 2014, 04:36 PM

second that sir, usually only hynix/samsung are capable of such frequency, timing will determine d volt needed imo.

had lotsa fun with thuban & pd, personally i prefer thuban more due to d ipc as well as imc mileage.

pd is d architecture i think, vishera should be d codename. like d x6 series code name is thuban, but they are of phenom ii architecture. i could be wrong thou...