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Bodybuilding Thread V9, Discussion and disputes
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razorboy
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Aug 29 2011, 07:20 AM
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Guys, I've got something to ask about. Let's say we're training HIT. We'd work up to a max bench or say 225. And a one set all out to failure.
But if we're training HVT, how do we proceed with it? If we're going to do 3 sets of it. 225 x 3 sets.
If we were already to fail at the 8th rep by the first set. Logically speaking by the 2nd set and the 3rd set we'll be able to squeeze out maybe 6 and 4 respectively.
How do we go along the lines of HVT?
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razorboy
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Aug 29 2011, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Aug 29 2011, 07:52 AM) Good question man. I've been wondering about this as well. My opinion is you're using too much weight though.. 225 is just an example. I bench light weight stuff QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 29 2011, 08:20 AM) lower the weights to maximise number of reps? Lowering the weights to achieve the same amount of reps? QUOTE(theCrab @ Aug 29 2011, 01:11 PM) i actually lower the weight 
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razorboy
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Aug 29 2011, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 29 2011, 03:25 PM) I'd say use a weight which you can get out 10-15 reps with for 4/5 good sets. Every set would most likely be of different number of reps ain't it? QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 29 2011, 03:26 PM) HIT is crap unless for deloading. I wouldn't say it is complete crap. I still get a good workout whenever I dont feel like having a volume workout
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razorboy
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Aug 30 2011, 12:32 AM
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Selamat Hari Raya to all our Muslim iron brothers .
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razorboy
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Aug 30 2011, 10:14 AM
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Anybody training today? It's shoulders and calves today for me.
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razorboy
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Aug 30 2011, 01:10 PM
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I'm gonna go DTP for legs, the day after tomorrow, then Chest/Back, rest then Arms, and then shoulders. Just for a week or 2. Haven done them in almost 2 months now
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razorboy
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Aug 30 2011, 02:44 PM
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10 sets. 50 reps 40 reps 30 reps 20 reps 10 reps Reverse the pyramid back up to 50 reps. Increase weights with each set and when you pyramid back, decrease the weight back down. Dramatic Transformation Principle
This post has been edited by razorboy: Aug 30 2011, 07:07 PM
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razorboy
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Aug 30 2011, 07:16 PM
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Link» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
About DTP
DTP is the training system that has transformed the physiques of many people and can do the same for you as well. DTP targets both the fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fibers in order to both enhance and define your muscle. It provides an overflow of nutrient rich blood to the muscle group you are training to provide a fuller appearance and more separation to the physique, at the same time increasing the heart rate and the intensity to burn fat and build muscle as well. You complete a total of ten sets with a rep range of 50, 40, 30, 20, and 10 for the first five. Once you complete the set of 10, you complete a second set of 10 and then do 20, 30, 40, and then 50 again at the end. You rest about forty five seconds in between each set.
DTP is an intense training system so you can implement it one of two ways. You can either use it on the entire body for three consecutive weeks followed by taking two weeks off or you can use it on one or two muscle groups per week for as long as you choose to.
  Click To Enlarge. DTP Targets Both The Fast Twitch And Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers In Order To Both Enhance And Define Your Muscle. There are many benefits to using DTP for yourself:
You can count the warm up set as a work set also due to the high rep range. Since the program is so intense, you also can burn fat while you are training. The workout doesn't take long so you can train even on a limited schedule. The fact that you use the high range reps before the low range reps lowers stress on your joints and tendons. Therefore the chance of injury is much lower than a regular heavy training program.
Various Forms Of DTP
DTP also will never be boring. You can accomplish the workout in a variety of ways. Doing this keeps the body from adapting to one program so your body can keep benefitting from it. They include the following:
TERMS YOU'LL NEED TO KNOW Superset - Two exercises are performed consecutively without any rest. Drop Set - Also known as strip sets, drop sets involve the immediate reduction of weight between sets with no rest. This will thoroughly burn out a muscle. Partials - Performing an exercise without going through a complete range of motion either at the beginning or end of a rep. Rest-Pause - Do a set to failure. Rest for 5 to 10 seconds then do a few more reps with the same weight. Do this once or a few times depending on your energy levels and how far you wish to push. With this technique you can take a weight you can only do for a certain number of reps and increase that amount. Failure - That point in an exercise at which you have so fully fatigued your working muscles that they can no longer complete an additional repetition of a movement with strict biomechanics. You should always take your post-warm-up sets at least to the point of momentary muscular failure, and frequently past that point. [ Learn More About Reading Workout Logs ] DTP Supersets:
You can do opposing muscle groups in the same day to either really kick up the intensity or if you can't get in the gym one day this is a great way to make up for it. Let's take biceps and triceps for an example. You can do barbell curls and superset skull crushers with them.
DTP Drop Sets:
If either you want to go a little heavier or can't accomplish the number of reps you need to do on that set, you can drop the weight once you hit failure and then resume where you left off until you finish the set. This is great when you use machines and you can change the pin on the stack quickly.
DTP Partials:
Partials are awesome for adding extra intensity to a set. Adding 10-15 partials to the end of a set really both increases blood flow to the muscle and keeps a set going so you know you hit it as hard as you can. DTP Priority - If you choose to do only two muscle groups a week, then make your two weakest muscles your priority and implement DTP for those two only.
DTP Rest Pause:
Again, if you can't complete the set with the desired weight, there is a way to help you finish. Once you hit failure, rest for five seconds and then keep going where you left off. Do this until you get the target rep range. If it takes more than a couple of rests, you probably had too much weight and should decrease it.
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razorboy
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Sep 1 2011, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Sep 1 2011, 01:08 PM) push up way? Since I am on study weeks now... I need to get back to my house(means no gym anymore) so what I can do in house is those house exercise lo push up push up push up... Lol. Sure, try sit ups , they work your biceps.
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razorboy
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Sep 1 2011, 07:26 PM
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Foreman grill? Not available in msia
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razorboy
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Sep 2 2011, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Sep 2 2011, 03:51 PM) anyone had tis kind of pain /sore left tricep and whole leg area / both leg i skipping everyday for 1 hour 30reps and 1 minutes rest after 30reps is there any problem for my cardio workout ? also is this also work guys my eating schedule breakfast -Â oatmeal after 3 hrs - egg (boiled ) 2x later 3hrs - fruits like appleso any problem for my eating schedule and cardio workout ? I don't understand what you're trying to say. But your meal plan is horrible. Carbs and protein every meal. This post has been edited by razorboy: Sep 2 2011, 04:09 PM
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razorboy
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Sep 2 2011, 05:24 PM
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If you would just take 5 minutes, JUST 5 minutes, to just look through the stickies. We wouldn't be having such a hard time trying to reach an understanding.
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razorboy
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Sep 2 2011, 06:13 PM
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Damn man, tough luck. Thank god my gym opens 16/7
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razorboy
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Sep 3 2011, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Sep 3 2011, 07:19 PM) need some pointers on dumbell pull over cant feel the lats is working When you hold the db, hold em in a fist, instead of in a palm. Make sure throughout the movement, no bending of the arms. Focus on moving it with your lats, core tight and give it a little stretch at the bottom and pull over with your lats
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 01:40 PM
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lol , all I'm getting are pms about bb.com
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 02:25 PM
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I have a box of promera concrete coming next week. Lol
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Sep 4 2011, 02:31 PM) Ah, u sapu during their sales huh? lol. Any good on those ? Promera concrete, usually at 70uSD , sold at half price + buy 1 free 1 Now Fish oil, 500 tabs, buy 1 free 1 Ast multivitamin 200 tabs, for the price of 50 tabs locally. Optimum creatine 1kg for the price of 200 or 300g here Syntha 6 , buy 1 free 1 no-explode Now l carnitine buy 3 free 1 at super cheap price just to name some that I've bought
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Sep 4 2011, 05:13 PM) you know the best thing? I ordered 2 tubs of syntha-6 which comes with 2 free no-xplode. they pack it together with the 1 10lb carbo gain that i ordered. They mistakenly shipped it 3 times. I got 6 syntha 6 and 6 no-xplode plus 3 10lb carbo gain. LOL
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Sep 4 2011, 05:31 PM) Lol. Happened to me b4 also. They shipped it twice. But tat happens I guess with international shipping. They reroute it elsewhere and things can go missing etc. Have u got taxed for such heavy parcel? unless my parcel contains food (supps), nope. even if they tax, just a meager 5% tax. I have never had any parcels gone missing, I have only experienced, MULTIPLE TIMES, MULTIPLE shippings.
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razorboy
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Sep 4 2011, 11:04 PM
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at my gym, there was this iranian guy. I was doing rack pulls at the smith(the only rack was connected to a smith), and he wanted to use the smith. But he waited all the way to I was done before asking me if he can jump in and use the smith.
And when I was doing incline bi curls at the incline bench, I didnt know anyone was using it, and it was the same iranian guy, and again he waited all the way till I finish before asking he can use it, and after i found out he was using it prior, i immediately apologized and he smiled and said it was all right.
I dont know about the foreigners at your gym but god damn this foreigner at my gym is one heck of a guy
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