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 The SONY NEX Discussion Thread V2, Sony NEX 5N & NEX7 Unveil

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Valentino46
post Aug 14 2011, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Aug 14 2011, 12:52 AM)
IS that a valid complaint?  Basically Nex only decides the ISO at the moment it starts to capture the image, so logically it can't tell you exactly, until itself has decided what ISO value to use. maybe at that moment, if the subject is suddenly moves then probably it will instantly turn up the iso value.
It's simple, if you don't want autofocus, then just select MF Manualfocus on the AF/MF Select option. I recommend turning on the peaking color as it helps me alot.

Of course once you select AF Autofocus the camera will always try to autofocus on the subjects.  The difference on the Autofocus mode is this:
- With Single shot AF (AF-S), it will lock focus once you 1/2 press the shutter button. The focus will remain in that area as long as you keep your fingers still 1/2 pressing the shutter button; even if you move the object around.

- With Continuous AF (AF-C), it will assume you are trying to focus on a moving object. So With the 1/2 press of the shutter button, it will always try to keep the moving object in focus. Like if you try to wave a pencil infront of the camera, then you can see how NEX is able to move the focus to follow your pencil.

It would be more confusing if you select autofocus and it doesn't.. autofocus.
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i believe when u half press the button the exposure is lock no matter the scene changes in brightness,thats why in DSLR we can assign a dedicated AEL button to lock the exposure setting,and DSLR typically does shows all the locked exposure setting parameters like ISO,aperture and shutter speed.i think its a valid complaint though,i wish my xz-1 shows the iso value it uses too during exposure lock

for the af setting i think idoblu confuse between single af and single continuous af though,i think he meant after the supposedly af lock the camera still hunt for focus indefinitely,maybe idoblu terswitch to continuous single spot af

should i voice first that i'm not a user of nex though,but a potential nex-7 user in the future

This post has been edited by Valentino46: Aug 14 2011, 04:11 AM
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post Aug 14 2011, 03:01 AM

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Thanks for the replies. I understand what a half press means, and the differences between AF-S and AF-C. As I said, I myself have been using dSLRs for the past 7 years.

My thing is, the AF still focus eventhough I didnt half press. Well, like Sniper said, its because of the Contrast Detection AutoFocus thingy in the NEX and PnS cameras. So I'll take it this way and I learnt something new this way too.
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post Aug 14 2011, 06:44 AM

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I am about to get the RM30 GGS 2nd generation stick on type from one of the seller in LYN.
How is this compare to the GGS 2nd generation which is the Stick on type?
will the dust go in between the clip on type? But the stick on type seems will collect dust at the edge like the normal film type protector.

I think this is must for any of this 2 type. much better than the Sony one.
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so far i dun really c any dust in between.... i still prefer the clip on type altho i hv most of my dslr sticked with the ggs stick on protector biggrin.gif

but something for sure this is better than the sony one biggrin.gif

but the down side is only 2 colors available.... black n silver
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(cjlai @ Aug 14 2011, 06:44 AM)
so far i dun really c any dust in between....  i still prefer the clip on type altho i hv most of my dslr sticked with the ggs stick on protector biggrin.gif

but something for sure this is better than the sony one biggrin.gif

but the down side is only 2 colors available....  black n silver
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You got a pink Nex? tongue.gif

Btw how do you get the clip-on GGS to align with the light sensor hole? It seems the whole thing can slide left and right


Added on August 14, 2011, 10:52 am
QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 13 2011, 03:50 PM)
Any answer to my 2 other questions? Thanks.

1. C3’s ISO is one stop (200, 400, 800 etc) but when I shoot in Av mode, the ISO sometimes is 500, 1000 etc. How can this be? And can I set it to 1/3 stop?
2. How can I set the ISO range in Auto ISO? Meaning that maybe I’d want the ISO to go up until 800.
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Looks like you can't set ISO limit as well which is a shame. Even LX3 can set.

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post Aug 14 2011, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 14 2011, 03:01 AM)
Thanks for the replies. I understand what a half press means, and the differences between AF-S and AF-C. As I said, I myself have been using dSLRs for the past 7 years.

My thing is, the AF still focus eventhough I didnt half press. Well, like Sniper said, its because of the Contrast Detection AutoFocus thingy in the NEX and PnS cameras. So I'll take it this way and I learnt something new this way too.
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Yea.. i probably get what you mean, it's like noo... don't go autofocusing when i don't want it to, the extra movements may wear out the internal parts faster. Go autofocus only when i press the shutter. Some will be irked and others are indifferent depending on the individual expectations. Maybe Sony can put in a 2 more option in the next Firmware AF-M and an AF-A? haha .. start autofocus only when 1/2 press.

Once in a while this seems to be helpful because it cuts down the waiting time for the cam to focus. Perhaps by the time I lift up the cam and 1/2 press the shutter, something in the scene already changed and the shot was lost. Compared to let's say.. by the time i lift up the cam, it has already somewhat intelligently focused and I get the shot especially for some candid moment which i experienced before. As for the Battery, I usually carry a spare.

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post Aug 14 2011, 12:17 PM

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how much could it be for nex 7? hermm.
patiently waiting for this nex

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post Aug 14 2011, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzer @ Aug 14 2011, 12:17 PM)
how much could it be for nex 7? hermm.
patiently waiting for this nex
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Surely more than the current Nex5 price, estimated around above 2.5k at least..

With Zeiss 24mm f1,7, it might be wayyyy more expensive anyways lol.

Just wait for the official pricing, which is coming soon, I guess.
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post Aug 14 2011, 09:06 PM

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dammit.......looks like I might end up selling off my canon gear
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inb4 sniper saying all no Zen. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 14 2011, 10:02 PM)
inb4 sniper saying all no Zen. tongue.gif
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I already got a 50mm and a 25mm but manual focus with lots of zen. Now I'm thinking should I also get these E mount 50mm and 24mm with no zen but got autofocus sweat.gif
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 14 2011, 10:09 PM)
I already got a 50mm and a 25mm but manual focus with lots of zen. Now I'm thinking should I also get these E mount 50mm and 24mm with no zen but got autofocus sweat.gif
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Bleh these autofocus mumbo jumbo.... you can always... just watch the clip




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post Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM

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Sorry. N00b here. What's Zen?
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM)
Sorry. N00b here. What's Zen?
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Zen is nothing and yet everything.

Zen is both empty and full.

Zen encompasses all and is encompassed by all.

Zen is the beginning and the end.

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM)
Sorry. N00b here. What's Zen?
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It's some japanese term used to describe a state of tranquility or sumthing like that. In real world though, it's just bunch of bullsh*t. Like what feng shui is. (hey I'm chinese, just that i dont believe in superstitious stuff)
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wen is feng shui superstitious?
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since the day it existed.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 15 2011, 08:57 AM)
Zen is nothing and yet everything.

Zen is both empty and full.

Zen encompasses all and is encompassed by all.

Zen is the beginning and the end.
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QUOTE(borneosailor @ Aug 15 2011, 10:11 AM)
It's some japanese term used to describe a state of tranquility or sumthing like that. In real world though, it's just bunch of bullsh*t. Like what  feng shui is. (hey I'm chinese, just that i dont believe in superstitious stuff)
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:49 AM)
wen is feng shui superstitious?
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QUOTE(borneosailor @ Aug 15 2011, 12:13 PM)
since the day it existed.
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Ini sudah nearing off topic liao laugh.gif

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i always tot feng shui is base on common sense


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ok off topic liao

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