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 The SONY NEX Discussion Thread V2, Sony NEX 5N & NEX7 Unveil

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post Sep 14 2011, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:13 PM)
axii, point taken, im just curious
was tat the reason u bought the nex in the 1st place? so u have a lighter body? does the ergonomic works with small body n huge lens?

e mount lens size, still much smaller than std slr lens


Added on September 14, 2011, 4:14 pmjust so u know, im not a fan of m43 biggrin.gif
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Reason I bought the NEX: all my points above smile.gif Light, small, stylo, and price was great. I had a GH1 before, but the IQ and ISO performance of the NEX was too good to pass off. Ergonomics wise, it works well enough for the size of my hands. My left hand cradles between the lens and the body, with right obviously on the trigger. I have a body jacket and body strap installed, so that helps with the body grip quite a bit. Size increases by a bit (a little smaller than an M9), but still much lighter than a full sized DSLR.

E Mount lenses aren't that much smaller than their DSLR counterparts. Diameter wise, yes, but length and width, no.

Just wanted to throw the m4/3 point in there, because there are quite a few m4/3 trolls (the bad apples of the good bunch) around the net. Not here in this forum, but everywhere else. They don't understand that even though m4/3 and NEX are classed as MILCs, the focus is different, as evident by Sony's roadmap and lens designs.

Ah hao: The biggest difference would be the sharpness of the primes as compared to the kit 1855. A while ago, I think it was also DC Watch that posted the MTF results of the 50/1.8 E, and it was freaking great! For the Macro, I'm not too sure. Personally I'm running the 50/1.8 DT SAM with a 3rd party adapter, and it's working out well. The only problem would be the size. AF can be attained with the use of the original LA-EA1 / 2 adapter.
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post Sep 15 2011, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 15 2011, 08:57 AM)
we nex user often get discriminate by newbie dslr users who knows nothing whistling.gif
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That's not true in my experience. Every other DSLR user I've come across was really interested in the NEX, and commended me for having one. Might just be me, but all the strangers I've met were looking to adopt a NEX or mirrorless family as a secondary, some even as a primary.

It's kind of like how some Canikon users look at Sony DSLRs: "Canikon is better / is pro", but in this case, "DSLR is better (than mirrorless) / NEX is P&S". I smile nicely, and continue shooting whatever I was shooting.
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post Sep 15 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 15 2011, 04:02 PM)
should have bokeh
unless u want creamier

anyway both 30 and 50mm is huge sad.gif
prefer pan cake
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Don't hope on those pancake primes. Not physically possible for now.
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post Sep 15 2011, 05:46 PM

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Holy shit... what happened to your 1855? You tried to use the new D-mount??

"Dog"-mount
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post Sep 16 2011, 12:41 AM

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There is no heating issue as far as I am concerned. It'll overheat when you shoot video for over 20 mins. What kind of super amazing single take scene that you are making? I would love to see that clip. Unless it's a... "private" clip... hahahahaha.

Currently the two "issues" affects only video recording. No issue for me, bad for a lot of people. wiNd! Faster test the video clicking issue and let us know.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:28 PM

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Asked about the availability of the viewfinder on Sony's FB page, here's the reply:

"The FDA-EVS1 will be available sometime next week. Do check with our authorised Sony outlets for more information!"


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post Sep 21 2011, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2011, 10:49 PM)
rm1000 got change ba?  biggrin.gif
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Don't think so, last news US price is USD450! RM1300++...


Added on September 21, 2011, 12:35 am
QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 21 2011, 12:14 AM)
I'm planning to buy 1 unit of GGS 3rd Generation Screen Protector - Sony NEX-3/5. If buy 2 units or more, can get free shipping.
It's RM50 per unit.

Just want to check anyone wants to buy the GGS 3rd Generation Screen Protector - Sony NEX3/5 and skip the shipping fees, please PM me directly.

http://mauinsons.com/store/generation-scre...lack-p-342.html
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Dude, is this for your 5N? Last I checked, 5N no longer has the tabs for clip on protectors. I don't think the glass protector will hold on good enough with just the tape. I could be wrong about this though! Can any new users of 5N confirm that the tabs on the LCD are no longer there?

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post Sep 21 2011, 10:46 PM

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Nikon 1 crop - 2.7
10-100, equiv~ 27-270

NEX crop - 1.5
18-200, equiv~ 27-300


Added on September 21, 2011, 10:47 pmPosting 5 minutes after the discussion ended: priceless

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post Sep 22 2011, 05:32 PM

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The clicking noise will only be apparent in a calm and quiet area, amplified by the processors dynamic boost. In noisy areas (everywhere else), you won't be able to hear it, even if you do, very low.

Wind, you think you can go to a noisy area and give the cam a vigorous shake while recording?
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post Sep 22 2011, 06:09 PM

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That's great, thank you for your contributions. Hope other people interested in 5N learn and study alot from your experiments! I'll be picking mine up next week.
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post Sep 23 2011, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(wiNd @ Sep 23 2011, 04:23 PM)
was at Sony Style Curve, they have the EVF for display d...RM999 (retail price)  rolleyes.gif

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Display only, no stock yet? Got check with them when they can get it?
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post Sep 25 2011, 09:42 PM

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Hey guys!

Good news, I was at Sungei Wang today, hunting for the NEX-5N + the EVF! I went to Boeing Photo, and they're selling it for a pretty good price. In the package:

1) NEX-5ND (got white!!) RM2599 + Bag (LCS-EMC) + Sony 8GB SDHC Class 4 OR Sony 8GB Mem Stick Pro-HG Duo

2)FDA-EVS1 RM899!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY!!!!!!!!!

3)HVL-F20S RM399!

Went to Sony Style in Times Square, they didn't even know what the hell the EVF was. They have the 5N for demo though.

I'll be grabbing my stuff tomorrow or the day after happy.gif

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post Sep 26 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 25 2011, 11:52 PM)
I thought SRP for HVL-F20S = RM399 only ?
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Yes, you are right. Sorry, got overly excited with the pricing, posted the wrong one instead. They list it as RM399, so can get further discount.


Added on September 26, 2011, 12:12 am
QUOTE(lencent @ Sep 26 2011, 12:00 AM)
any review for HVL-F20S? thinking whether to get a flash or the 50mm 1.8 biggrin.gif
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It's a great unit to have for that price. Once you have it, you can chuck the F7S aside.

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post Sep 26 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(readix @ Sep 26 2011, 12:30 AM)
nex-5d rm2599 is nego-ed price tongue.gif or their list price?
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It's the nego-ed price.
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post Sep 26 2011, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(readix @ Sep 26 2011, 01:13 AM)
thx bro... hopefully their branches also can offer same price... haha

wondering if we go buy tgt ... 2 units can get more discount or not... haha
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Might be possible, but don't put your hopes on it.

I've tried out the EVF, and yes, it looks and feels great. Attaches quite securely on the camera. The tilt is a smooth tilt. All those reports of people being "amazed" by the quality of the EVF is really exaggerated. As soon as I put my eye on the finder, I could tell that it was an electronic, not optical. BUT, it worked, very bright view. The LCD stays off as long as my eye is on the finder.

The touch-focus / magnification is really fun to use, especially with manual lenses.
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Sep 27 2011, 04:26 PM)
izzit 5N having click sound problem?
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The Click problem occurs only during Video Recording with sound enabled. It will only happen when you pan the camera in any direction quickly. If you hold the NEX-5N closely to your ear and move it about slightly, you will also hear a clicking sound. This is what is causing it. The stereo mic is picking up this sound from the internals. People on the net speculate that is the orientation sensor (ball bearing contacts). Strange that no one has done a teardown on the camera yet to find out exactly what is it.

But do note, if you are recording in an area where the ambient sound is noisy (roadside, markets, lots of ambient noise) you will not be able to hear the clicks, or it would be barely audible.

However, if you have already bought a NEX-5N, there will be a fix soon in Malaysia. Right now in the US, Sony is asking people to send in their cameras for a free fix. Eventually, this "fix" will be available here. If you really want a NEX-5N, pick it up, then send it back to Sony later for 7-10 days. If you're not going to do video, well, just get it! It's a great cam.

Supposedly the Click will not be found on later batches of the cameras. This is based on the news of the UK shipments; the NEX-5N shipments to UK is currently being withheld. Of course, in the end this is just a rumor.



I don't work for Sony. I just love this small little thing. rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Sep 27 2011, 11:42 PM)
bro,u pay by cash or cards?or installment plans?
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They told me Cash can, card also can. If card you want to do installment, nowadays almost any card can do self-installment right? Just call and ask them to convert. Applies a lot to CIMB.
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:09 AM

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Wow, it's really bad that Sony Malaysia isn't acknowledging the problem when the rest of the world has... Just lost hell a lot of points there. I'll send them a big email with links and whatnot to Sony US' response to the issue.

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post Sep 28 2011, 10:33 AM

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Just shot an email over to Sony.


Hello, In reference to the ongoing camera "Click" issue for the NEX-5n:

I would like to know if any action will be taken to fix or improve the current "Click" issue during video recording with the NEX-5n. This is quite a large problem for users wanting to record videos with the NEX-5n, with it's highly touted Full-HD abilities. At it's current state, all audio captured by the camera is rendered useless. Even with the optional external microphone (ECM-SST1) attached, the click sound is still audible, especially in areas with low ambient sound.

Sony US has acknowledged the problem and is offering this fix:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/news-item...dl=NEX5Nmething

Here are a few links to several forums discussing the problem:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=39426646

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-us-ann...issue/#comments

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-confir...ex-5n/#comments

Also, at our local Lowyat.net forums. Many users and potential buyers are concerned about this issue.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1932071/+1080

Do let me know the good news.

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post Oct 1 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(mickychunnie @ Oct 1 2011, 01:18 AM)
hi i've been using nex3 for almost a year...i own the 16mm lens and i getting bored with it..anyone can recommend any better lens? 50mm? with adapter? and also is 50mm consider as zoom lens? i wan some lens that is great for fashion photography shooting..
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A fast 50 is a good choice. Since the SEL50F18 is not released yet (december), you will definitely need a different mount 50. They're considered portrait lenses. Easy choice would be the Sony A-mount DT 50/1.8 SAM, along with the LA-EA1 adapter (but AF is very slow). But I'd hold up on the adapter, and wait for the LA-EA2, which has PDAF (very, very fast AF). If you use a third party adapter, do note that you won't get AF, and have to go manual. Some third party adapters do not have aperture control, so becareful with what you buy.

Some might argue that 50mm for APS-C sized sensors (the NEX) is a little too tight as a portrait lens, so you might even consider getting the Sony A-mount DT 35/1.8, and excellent lens. With that focal length, it works kinda nice for everything else, not just portraits and fashion

The DT50/1.8 SAM can be bought for new at around RM500, and used at RM300-350.

DT 35/1.8 can be bought for new at around RM700-800, and used at RM500.

LA-EA1 adapter is RM450, LA-EA2 is USD400, about RM1000.

SEL50F18 is estimated to be around RM900.


Not gonna go into legacy lens as thats a whole other ball game.

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