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post Jan 5 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(kurudo @ Jan 5 2012, 08:17 PM)
Yeah a lot can do optically..at night/indoors... but that's not off camera right? that's just a slave flash. Plus it wont work in broad day... GN6 from nex flash too weak. Learned tat the hard way.

Have u tried the YN-460s? not all versions work bro... some versions just misses on all modes. You better test at the shop. But most YN will work only when dial is at half power or lower. It actually sort of fires twice... bit waste battery. Sonia flash trigger kinda expensive. Learning mode tend to miss fire easily in slightly bright places.

Best realiable solution would be a optical trigger with delay mount directly on the camera flash plus simple diffuser to block/soften nex flash... then either radio transmitter or wire to your flash.
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Yes, that s right. But with your original way, you will be limited in distance due to cable length. Pros & cons for both anyways. Tried the 460 and 460II; fired consistently indoors. Didn't try outdoor, but thats pretty obvious.

Radio trigger mounted on the HVL-F7S is certainly the best way to go about it.

Recently though, the people at dpreview have been using IR acrylic plates to change the light from the HVL-F7S to IR, and using an IR receiver / transmitter. Very interesting stuff.

Fun to mess around, but I'll leave it all behind when I have the NEX-7 in my hands.
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post Jan 6 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 6 2012, 12:26 PM)
R U Sure?? to recommend this course  for the general NEX population??  Ori photoshop CS5 is more than Rm2000 per license, probably this course applies to people or companies who has income from their photography or digital imaging works. Myself using GIMP.
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I would think the general NEX population would have *ahem ahem* CS5.

Actually, I guess the general population of Malaysia uses *ahem* CS5.
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post Jan 6 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Jan 6 2012, 05:55 PM)
Off topic slightly. CS5 support only 64bit CPU only right? So those who does not have 64bit have to use CS4?
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Nope... there is also 32bit support.
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post Jan 9 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Jan 9 2012, 12:16 AM)
the glass is ND filter ? i thought ND filter is like other filter, is round shape and "fix" on the lens  ohmy.gif

how much it cost ?
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Those are slot-in square filters. Normally used with an adapted holder that screws onto the front of the lens. You can use up to 3 filters at one time. The cheap knock-off brand would be Tian-Ya. Sells for about RM100~180, for the Filter Holder, Screw adapter, and 3pcs of filters. Depending on which filters you pick up, the price will be different. Better one would be Cokin, but they're quite hard to find nowadays, and way more expensive. About RM50~100 per filter.

The ND filters for the Tian-Ya is not a pure grey, and will have a purplish / magenta color cast.


Added on January 9, 2012, 7:19 pm
QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 9 2012, 06:52 PM)
Thanks for your reply. I been reading quite abit about nex-5n and everyone seems to praise on it. I'm asking my parents to get one for their vacation rather than lugging on heavy dslr. Mind to share how much you got them and where?

Worth to wait for nex-7?
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Main advantage of the NEX series are the interchangeable lenses, and the quality and low-light ability that comes from the APS-C large sensor.

However, since your parents will be using it, do you think they will swap lenses around often? If not, they will only be limited to either the SEL1855 zoom, or the SEL16F28 pancake. Since size is an issue, I will not talk about the SEL18200. If they are not swapping lenses, they will only ever use one lens, and if so, please consider a super zoom instead.

With a prosumer super zoom, you can easily get 28~600mm+ depending on which model you go for, which will be really convenient. Super zooms nowadays are not that large, and heavy, as compared to DSLRs. If you were to pack the SEL18200 with the NEX, it would be much larger length wise.

In short:

NEX
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+ Quality
+ Low Light
+ Interchangeable Lenses
- Lens /Sensor Maintenance Required
- Learning Curve, ease of use
- Lack of pancake / collapsible zoom
- Longest telephoto zoom is only 300mm (35mm equiv.)

Super Zoom
+ Long zoom (up to 720mm [35mm equiv.])
+ Compact size with telephoto zoom
+ Easy to use
- Fixed Lens



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post Jan 9 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(y_owez @ Jan 9 2012, 08:28 PM)
yeap im a beginner.but i do wanna get the lens back in malaysia since im here on holiday because if i get them overseas.way to pricey.
so sorta wanna invest. because im eyeing  nex 7 which is out is australia .and getting the adapter in malaysia would save me lots
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A good beginner A-Mount lens would be the nifty 50, as usual. Cheap as hell (RM300 used, RM500 new) and good introduction for a portrait prime. The other "Easy Choice" primes, as Sony calls it, are great as well: 35/1.8, 85/2.8. 35mm goes for RM690~RM850, while the 85mm is RM800~RM999.

Do note that you will not have image stabilization (Optical Steady Shot) while using the A-Mount adapter, unless the lens itself has it (Only SIGMA lenses have OS for Sony so far).

But like 0168257061 says, stick with the 1855 until you've fully conquered it. It's a great kit. Only reason to go for other lenses? You need faster glass, or longer glass.
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post Jan 9 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(y_owez @ Jan 9 2012, 11:02 PM)
will the adapter for nex 7 be the same with nex 5 to mount a-mount lenses?

ps: thanks for all the infos!
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Yes, the LA-EA1 and LA-EA2 adapters will fit all E-mount cameras (NEX series, VG series, and FS series)
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 10 2012, 05:00 PM)
Fuji X-Pro1..

look where is NEX.

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Very vague graph. Looking forward to the X-Pro 1, but this is just trolling from Fuji to place it all the way up there (Fuji - "LOL! f*** you guys! Some people will believe this graph means everything!") Style points are also very subjective... some people like the retro look, some like the new-age look.

Wouldn't a retro look be more conservative?


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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 10 2012, 12:24 PM)
Thanks for breaking down the information for me. Does the 16mm f2.8 pancake prime has shallow dof compare with, let say the A mount 50mm? Worth getting it along with the 18-55mm? Main reason I ask is because I dont think they prefer 18-200mm due to small aperture for longer range.

Mind sharing how much you guys got your NEX-5n with 1855 and 16f28? Any freebies?
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No, the SEL16F28 will not produce as much shallow depth of field as the 50/1.8DT, due to lens design constraints.

From what you are saying, it seems like your parents are looking for a large aperture lens that produces shallow depth of field. If that is the case, the SEL50F18 would be a good choice if you can wait for it (estimated March for Malaysia, other Asian countries have it already). Native E-mount, fast 1.8, good bokeh quality. A lot of samples are floating around the net already and it won't take you too long to find them.

If you can't, your choices for fast lenses will be limited to either the A-mount lenses with adapter, or legacy lenses using manual focus. If you want to play it safe, LA-EA2 + A-Mount lenses would be the way to go. Legacy lenses is a hornets nest you're better off not stepping into.

Current prices for NEX-5ND ranges from RM2500~2700. Standard freebies depending on shop: cam bag, cheap tripod, screen protector, class 4 mem card.

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post Jan 11 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(anson_ljh @ Jan 11 2012, 12:12 AM)
Hi all,

Would it be any negative impact to camera or image quality on NEX 5N if enable lens compensation in the setting? By default the setting is off.

Please advise.

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Lens Compensation does fantastic stuff if you are shooting in JPG. It corrects for CA and Distortion. Leave it on, you'll be fine. The settings do not apply if you are shooting in RAW.
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:45 PM

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Out of focus, especially the second one with the bee. Manual focus very critical here...
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post Jan 12 2012, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Jan 11 2012, 11:39 PM)
stock lens 1855, no money buy new lens yet  sweat.gif

i wan UWA  drool.gif  but definitely out of my "wallet" doh.gif


Added on January 11, 2012, 11:40 pm
the bee keep flying here and there, no time MF rclxub.gif
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Pre-focus on a spot, set shutter to speed priority, wait for the target to enter focus area, and shoot away
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post Jan 13 2012, 02:01 PM

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Studio Zaloon just confirmed that the NEX-5 will be in stock from 15th January onwards on their latest meeting with Sony. No NEX-7 until next month.......
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jan 18 2012, 07:32 PM)
I bought mine from Boeing Sg Wang for RM2650 by credit card, comes with 8GB memory stick (the fella says better), bag, cleaning kits and screen protector.
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The Sony Mem stick? If it is, definitely not better. Class 4 sony mem stick will bog down quite a bit when you shoot continously, and playback is very slow. Suggest you get at least a Class 10 and use the mem stick as a secondary backup. You will see a world of difference; the camera will work a lot faster (shooting and playback)


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QUOTE(y_owez @ Jan 17 2012, 03:25 PM)
sweet ! thanks yo!


Added on January 17, 2012, 3:29 pmlooks like no one selling in loywat forum ? =(
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User hey! sells a 3rd party remote that works really well. Normal shutter and 2s shutter.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2058273&hl=

RM18 without postage. I have one of these.

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