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post Jun 24 2011, 05:04 PM

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If you want MeeGo to be primary platform for Nokia you have to petition to have Anssi Vanjoki as CEO again.He had the plan to make MeeGo as primary platform for Nokia.
You cannot expect a person who was so involved with proprietary software to embrace open source.This is the case with Elop.
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post Jun 24 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 05:03 PM)
forgot to use the word 'stock' onto it... or dual Ghz, haha...

btw i tot most ppl only manage to push it to 900Mhz or so for stability?
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Nope you can go as far as 1.15GHz.
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post Jun 24 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:10 PM)
Some people contradict themselves. For example, always condemn no Office apps, but WP7 comes with Office suite. What you have on Meego  whistling.gif
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No idea on this part but Maemo's Document on The Go should be ported to N9.

But there are a lot of third party party office related product in repository.It won't be as perfect as Office Suite but it'll come close.
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post Jun 24 2011, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:21 PM)
Just example only la. Saw the same thing with some iOS user.

I'm hoping that WP7 will find a way to play along with desktop Windows to a higher level. As for Meego, I don't know what to expect from it.
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For iOS I found a different problem.

For Maemo lets say if I want to view my lecture notes: I connect my phone to computer copy the files & then I can open it from it's location in phone or launch the office application.
It's simple to use.

But for iOS you cannot really copy the office files directly because of the dependencies with iTunes.I think any office/pdf files need to be pushed to the device via cloud method or jailbreak the device.
This is making office application less user friendly & less useful in iOS.
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post Jun 24 2011, 05:58 PM

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Nokia N9 could run Android apps: Alien Dalvik interview

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"Because it goes really deep into the root of the OS, it cannot be a downloadable application. It would have to be ported prior to the phone being shipped. It would have to be a decision of the mobile phone manufacturer or the network."


Just release the codes man..With or without Nokia's support someone will manage to integrate it in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan
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post Jun 24 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 06:09 PM)
do google have the right to stop this?  since market belong to them.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Myriad encourage developers of the apps to repackage .ipk to MeeGo compatible apps.
I don't think anyone can stop the application writer on what they want to do with their application.
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post Jun 24 2011, 11:58 PM

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Rumour is Nokia Board is going to make internal investigation regarding Elop's WP7 & Android device leak.

Can they just fire him & bring Anssi Vanjoki back? Elop may have balls of steel but Vanjoki have balls of platinium.He's got things done better than anyone in Nokia before.
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post Jun 25 2011, 12:23 AM

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OPK is useless oldfag.He stuck his neck for Symbian & partly at fault the Nokia's decline.
Vanjoki was planned to promoted as CEO but after US threatened to remove Jorma Ollila as Nokia Chairman,he p*ssied out & hired Elop.

Lame chairman.He should grow a pair of balls.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 12:27 AM)
US threatened??what???could u tell me the detail?what relationship vf US?
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US investors in Nokia...Missed words there...

This is a old news - http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-ceo-shuffle...paper-26128530/

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 04:29 AM)
US investor putting the pressure on nokia.
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You want good reading material read this - http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/bran...e-stand-up.html

Yes,this blog contains walls of text but usually contains facts & rather accurate predictions.
BTW Tomi T Ahonen was Nokia Executive previously.
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post Jun 25 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 25 2011, 09:59 AM)
It was not Nokia that was headed to trouble in February. It was you, Stephen Elop, and only you, with your delusions and utterly false memo, who created unnecessary panic inside Nokia. You fired the wrong people, you destroyed the wrong platforms, you sold the wrong assets, and you set the whole of Nokia on fire.

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This could be the biggest mistake.
QT went to Digia (Nokia still investing in this)
Symbian went to Accenture
MeeGo DOA

Sure hope Elop's bet pays off..There's already growing unhappiness in Finland with what going on with Nokia.
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post Jun 25 2011, 10:42 AM

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Depending on the price I think this device will be worthy buy.
Decent spec(not great),almost all the functions & apps covered there will be some support from the Maemo/MeeGo community.
Compared to this when N900 was launched it didn't even have the USSD dialing support or root access!

I honestly think that N9 is a good device for both consumer & enthusiast.If only N950 planned to be sold....
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post Jun 25 2011, 10:56 AM

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No need to do that.Europeans are doing that by themselves.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 25 2011, 11:44 AM)
Intel will carry on with Meego. Why keep saying Meego doom?
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It's not doomed but it'll be very hard to recover at least for the handset version.
In order for the OS to become successful financially you need a good manufacturer support & carrier support.Now that the manufacturer support is gone the carriers won't show much enthusiasm on this platform.LG has shown interest in developing MeeGo phone but their brand is not strong enough to convince carriers.
Part of the reason WP7 sale is very bad in US is because of the carriers sort of boycotting WP7.Inconsistent decision by Microsoft and the upcoming Skype integration in WP7 is just pouring fuel fire.
Carriers hate Skype or any other internet voice/message application for simple reason : It'll hit hard their main 2 cashcow which are voice calls & sms.

At least in MeeGo it's perfectly possible to customize the OS according to carriers will.In WP7 Microsoft simply refuse carriers or manufacturers to modify the OS much.

Sometimes I wonder why Elop dead set on adopting WP7 as Nokia's primary platform.Initially Microsoft had to threated some manufacturer with lawsuit in order for them to release WP7 devices because major Windows Mobile manufacturers didn't have much confidence with the platform.Now the devices are released & the deal is done you can see some manufacturers like HTC is moving away to concentrate on Android alone.

Future of the MeeGo might be lying on the v1.3 release.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 02:04 PM)
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i believe intel>nokia
nokia promises,words are all like fart.
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But it's a fact that Intel is still hardware oriented company.

QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM)
Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull.
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You guys remember brick game?

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Everytime I see WP7 homescreen I remember it.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ANOK

Stock market sure loves N9....

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Extra info regarding N9's hardware & software

http://shootspeak.com/2011/06/24/nokia-n9-...idbits-updates/
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 11:56 PM)
look at china site comparing android open source vs meego open source.they claim that android isn't fully open source coz just support java..is it true?meego/maemo5 is real open source.
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Google do have issues with Linux Foundation but not because of the java support.
1st issue is the Android kernel.Google enhanced the linux kernel with some extra features but Linux Foundation is yet to accept it.
2nd issue is the Android 3.0/3.1 source code.As open source software Google should release the entire source code but yet to release it.

In Maemo's case the core OS itself is open source but some application(app manager,media player) & some function(such as power management & telephony stack) is proprietary Nokia stuff.
In MeeGo Intel is trying to make almost everything open source.That's why if you tried initial MeeGo release you won't be able to play much of the videos (due the format licensing).
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Jun 26 2011, 01:00 PM)
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 02:05 PM)
even N9 sales more than 100million,the bast*rd elop still choose wp7 n abandon meego.
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If Nokia managed to sell even 1 million N9 think Elop will be fired.

But whatever it is I think it's late to change Elop's plan.The deal with Microsoft is done & Symbian phone sale already suffered heavy beating after the February 11 announcement.
It'll cost a lot for Nokia to cancel the deal Microsoft & restart the MeeGo project now that a number of people working on their software side been fired or resigned.
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Instead of going with WP7 Elop/Nokia should have attempted to buy Palm/webOS before HP bought them.
It's proven to be excellent OS with good developers support compared to WP7.

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