Leica i9 + N9 like Leica i9 + iPhone4?

Bagero punya Nokia given chance to change UI but don't want to change

Nnoooo...Stephen Elop says everything comes with WP7 is the best.

There was potential with Maemo but it was kept as experiment for far too long because Nokia simply refused to kill Symbian.There was plan to release Maemo 6 which was planned to mass market & that's when sh*tstorm started.Maemo merged as MeeGo,management changed,people resign & someone from Microsoft chosen as CEO.Nokia is in mess now.At least Elop is trying to clear out things although with an unpopular plan.

I agree with your idea of letting people to turn off functions.
Perhaps it's possible to open another homescreen with a hack?But the major trouble is we don't know if it's remotely possible to run any kind of widget in N9.

Indeed.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 11:35 PM

N9 launch : Nokia share went up
Nokia WP7 leaked : Share went down deep again

Draw the conclusion yourself

Cost cutting I suppose

If it's proven to give better reception then why not?
You want all metal phone that need spesial way holding in order to avoid dropping call?

Smartphone is still goddamn phone.It should have good phone function & good reception.
Else it's a fail phone even if it has quadcore processors.

Some of the MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan functions demo - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL399857...feature=mh_lolz

If I'm not mistaken bookmark is supported.Also you can add website like speed dial in Opera.
But yes,we need more hands on video to know more about the browser.

Nerds rejoice! There are still terminal fun in N9.
Root is enabled by enabling developers mode.



@Andy214
Looking at this video Nokia did sort of implement what you said earlier.There are advanced functions in N9 but it's turned off by default.Advanced users can turn it on.
Now if only widgets supported....

Suddenly N9 looks extra attractive to me

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 02:22 AM

Nokia pretty much covered all basics with MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan.Inclusion of WiFi hotspot is a real surprise.
N950 already started shipping to selected developers.
Now if only Myriad Alien Dalvik demo some Android games in N9 it'll be good.

Honestly speaking I think WP7 Mango will have more less same amount of feature as MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan but with worse UI.So far the developers reception on WP7 has been so-so.This won't change anytime soon.Time will tell whether the addition of Nokia as WP7 manufacturer encourage devs to support WP7.
Microsoft definitely gained a lot by having Nokia as WP7 manufacturer but will Nokia have any significant gain with this partnership?With less income from their regular value added services they have to expect sale of high volume of devices for high profit.Can they do it?
By looking @ Sea Ray it's not likely.Since there's little change from other WP7 devices made by other manufacturers,some users might just go for other WP7 familiar device.
But all is not lost.There is still few more months before Nokia World.If Elop just present the similar thing then I'm afraid that even a WP7 with physical keyboard won't save the day for Nokia.

Also Nokia better hope that Microsoft keep updating the OS fast enough.In the past with Symbian or Maemo if there are performance issue or lack of functions users can use custom rom or modify the OS slightly to suit their need.But by going for closed source there won't be any such privileges.Can the regular Nokia users who got used to be in control of their device get used to this?

I just dislike the WP7.Just consist of wall of boxes.Plus the childish fonts

I like webOS a lot even though it's closed source.Even Eiraku loves it.Very polished OS but as you say their device design is really bad.They have decent developers support too.Thank god for that else Maemo5 users would have been stuck with playing Angry Birds forever.Another issue with webOS is the availability of their device.It's hard find webOS device here.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 03:23 AM

Maemo probably has one of the best open source community.They provided updates & apps when Nokia abandoned this phone.Lot's of people still interested with MeeGo but I don't know how long they can can put up with Nokia's shenanigans.Very bad support for Maemo/MeeGo devices.

Among all the videos I watched I think the last video was the most important for me

Leaked flash files might need some tweaking for it to work perfectly.I patched the leaked flash 10 for N900 & it doesn't work that smoothly

If Alien Dalvik really provide complete Android apps integration in MeeGo then I don't think we need preenv.Anyway I don't think MeeGo have same framework as webOS.preenv won't work if it's like that.

Social network integration has always been highlight with Maemo devices.Although some of the manufacturers making lots of huha's regarding how they integrating social betwork on their devices,Nokia did it 1st in 2009 with Maemo5.Skype,IM & facebook were very well integrated in Maemo 5.

There reason why no one bother to integrate Android in Maemo is probably because someone else managed to port the entire Android to work as proper OS in N900

I genuinely believe if Nokia provided any kind of future software support they can sell this device.

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Added on June 24, 2011, 10:53 amReally?
From what I read from bunch of sites no one have complain regarding the OS stability.So far no demo model OS crashed (like the N8 in Engadget preview) & all the features are pretty much included & working.
N8 on the other hand was plagued by bugs even from the early days.

So why the delay if you don't have much issue with this device?
The faster they ship this device the faster Elop can play with his blocky phone.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 10:53 AM

I sure hope Nokia starts shipping their products soon.

Yes,Android is the largest mobile open source community.But from what I've seen majority of the community are just regular end users want to have fun flashing & looking to update their OS.

But for Maemo majority of users always contribute for the OS.
It could be as small as testing beta app to enhancing the kernel.
Another thing about Maemo community is they are very organized.Lets say one function is missing.The project leader will look for other users to develop it.Once the team done with it they'll ask others to beta test it.Then it'll be integrated in CSSU (Community Updates for the OS) or if hardware related in kernel.
I like this organized working part a lot.Eventhough there multiple projects going on but when it comes to integrating it to OS everyone play nice.
With Android device you don't visibly see what was updated by the 3rd party team but in Maemo you can see it.Just take a N900 running stock PR 1.2 another N900 running modified kernel & updated OS.There are lot's of differences.

I'm not saying Android community is anything lesser.They do have good projects going on like Cyanogenmod.

MS will sue your pants off if they know you have their source codes.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 11:44 AM

If they do plan to add few more stuff it's a good news for potential owners

I'll summarize Nokia's suppor for Maemo : EXTREMELY BAD

Wondered when you'll pop up in this thread...

The removal of some Maemo's ability is a let down as shown in the last video I posted there are usual advanced functions available in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan.

My N900 already shows some minor signs of wear & tear.Need to open up for service

And yeah,it's using single core processor.But I have to say Nokia is making TI 3630 look like dual core processor with the fluid UI's.

Experimental flagship.

Even if N9 had high end hardwares it'll still be be tough thing to sell because of DOA OS.

^Actually that's a real surprise.When we started speculate the N9's spec in TMO most of the us guessed it'll come with 512MB RAM only given Nokia's track record which always ship devices with puny amount of RAM.

RViN & one1002 still MIA

PS: RViN moved to SGS2

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 02:35 PM

Sense is a bit over the top...
For example the weather widget with Sense 3.0.The animation is all nice who practically use it?

+1
Painfull memory...

Meh...
If all you want to see is Nokia phone running Android 2.3.4,feel free to use my phone.That is if you're in Melaka.

I'm running my Nokia @ 1GHz.
Kira GHz phone la tu...