Haha you'll have to wait as I'm not at home right now, wait till I come back from house first....
HP Pavillion DV6-6XXX series Owners Lounge V2, - 91 owners!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!
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Haha you'll have to wait as I'm not at home right now, wait till I come back from house first....
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Jul 1 2011, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Momojii @ Jun 30 2011, 10:38 PM) i think urs will get next week.coz in my status date delivered stated 05/7/2011. unfortunately they call me today and said wanna courier the laptop tomorrow.horayyy but already pending 1 days. |
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Jul 1 2011, 01:47 AM
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Sry to let you guys down, I've received a report from my friend that is using the 6114tx, the manual switching did not functioned after the rebooting and OpenGL still are NOT using 6770m....
currently he's testing the modified 11.2 drivers http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=339823 - read here for more info... I have to wait more reports from him...since he bought not long ago, I'll ask him to pressure HP by asking him to warranty his unit for the so-called "defective 6770M", then it might pushes HP to release a driver update for 61xx users... |
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Jul 1 2011, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(warlove3 @ Jul 1 2011, 01:47 AM) Sry to let you guys down, I've received a report from my friend that is using the 6114tx, the manual switching did not functioned after the rebooting and OpenGL still are NOT using 6770m.... OMG... so the problem still persists.... currently he's testing the modified 11.2 drivers http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=339823 - read here for more info... I have to wait more reports from him...since he bought not long ago, I'll ask him to pressure HP by asking him to warranty his unit for the so-called "defective 6770M", then it might pushes HP to release a driver update for 61xx users... |
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Jul 1 2011, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE(warlove3 @ Jul 1 2011, 01:47 AM) Sry to let you guys down, I've received a report from my friend that is using the 6114tx, the manual switching did not functioned after the rebooting and OpenGL still are NOT using 6770m.... currently he's testing the modified 11.2 drivers http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=339823 - read here for more info... I have to wait more reports from him...since he bought not long ago, I'll ask him to pressure HP by asking him to warranty his unit for the so-called "defective 6770M", then it might pushes HP to release a driver update for 61xx users... QUOTE(rurushu @ Jul 1 2011, 02:17 AM) What OpenGL game u guys playing? Minecraft? |
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Jul 1 2011, 02:33 AM
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I have another problem here
When ever I watch a flash video player, like youtube, kuguo etc... there is a white/black bar on the right side of my screen, it is the same using different browsers like chrome and firefox EXCEPT Opera. I have no idea how to fix it, sifus please help me... Here is the SS: ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm a noob here, someone please help! Thanks a lot! This post has been edited by T0mmytky: Jul 1 2011, 03:17 AM |
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Jul 1 2011, 03:26 AM
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Which one is Opera/Ffox/Chrome/IE?
All look same to me. |
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Jul 1 2011, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2011, 03:26 AM) no image for opera because it's normalthose pictures are from Firefox and Chrome, both same thing Just tested with IE, it is also normal... not sure why only Firefox and chrome have this problem, quite irritating |
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Jul 1 2011, 03:49 AM
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Long post is long.. read carefully
Source: FAQ: Consolidated thread w/FAQ on 61xx switchable graphics + advice to potential 61xx buyers UPDATED 6/30/2011 I thought I might centralise the discussion for those who ask as whether they should buy the DV6/7 61xx or refund their order as I think the switchable graphics thread has become a little confusing for newcomers. Status of switching on 6770m: As it stands (as of AMD catalyst driver release 11.6) graphical switching for programs that use OpenGL as their SOLE graphic engine will not run on the 6770m discrete graphics card (dGPU). Instead, those programs will only run on the Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics card (IGP) and therefore will not run optimally. As you have probably gathered MANUAL SWITCHING DOES NOT WORK ON DV6/7 61xx AT ALL so we can't override the dynamic switching in place. OpenGL programs that will use Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics
Currently, the 6770m will not register clock and memory speeds properly on monitoring software such as GPU-Z. Benchmarking/stress testing software such as Furmark will not run well at all (OpenGL) and if you bench with any 3DMark software the results screen will show that it's just tested your Intel HD 3000 (which it hasn't, it'll have benched your 6770m, but because under the muxless design, your Intel IGP is always on, it recognises the IGP first, and not your 6770m - more on mux and muxless designs below). Also, you cannot overclock the 6770m in the 61xx whereas you can in the 6xxx range. Does the switching problem only affect 1080 resolution models? No, 768 models are affected too. Should you buy/return? If you:
This is the hard part and it's anybody's guess at the moment as HP and AMD have not made public they are aware of this issue. Through the complaints that all of us have fed back to HP and AMD I'm sure they're aware of it. Some hope that by the release of the 11.7 catalyst drivers due out in July this may be fixed but it's all speculation at this point. But this disclaimer on AMD's switchable graphics web page does not give hope to a resolution anytime soon: "With AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics technology, full enablement of all discrete graphics video and display features may not be supported on all systems (e.g. OpenGL applications will run on the integrated GPU or the APU as the case may be). Always check with your system manufacturer for specific mode capabilities and supported technologies." AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics Technology Are other laptops from other manufacturers affected in the same way? Yes. Any new laptop with the AMD muxless graphics switching design will have this problem, regardless of brand. Here are a few examples: ATI GPU doesn't work on E520 - Lenovo Community IdeaStorm | Update Vostro 3550 AMD 6630/Intel HD 3000 Switchable Drivers What is mux (manual) and muxless (dynamic) graphics switching? Is it a matter of it being a driver or hardware based issue? bsoft explains it better than I can here - edited for brevity and accuracy: QUOTE(Originally Posted by bsoft ) No, this is a driver issue plain and simple. The 6000 series uses the old mux-based switchable graphics. That means that both GPUs (the Radeon and the Intel) are connected to a mux, and the mux connects to the display. When you switch graphics you are changing which GPU connects to the display. The 6100 series uses a muxless design. This is the same basic design as NVIDIA Optimus. What that means is that the Radeon GPU renders into memory, but the Intel GPU is used for outputting the final image. This is the key here - the Intel GPU is always active, it's just that the Radeon does the rendering work when it's selected. Clearly the problem is that AMD hasn't gotten working OpenGL support with the muxless design. That's probably because they didn't have the software engineering resources it with Optimus, so it's not even an issue with Windows. It's just a matter of AMD getting the driver support right to get it done right away. Since most games on Windows are Direct3D (not OpenGL), it makes sense to focus on that first. But rest assured that there is nothing intrinsic to the muxless design that makes OpenGL impossible. NVIDIA doe You are never going to be able to switch purely to the Radeon graphics like you can on the 6000 series. The muxless technology doesn't work that way. You may at some point be able to force-select the Radeon GPU, but the Intel GPU will still be active. The downsides of the muxless design are driver issues (Optimus users went through this), slightly lower performance (a couple of percent - not really noticeable), and basically no support for the dedicated GPU under non-Windows operating systems (there are significant issues in Linux that make doing muxless designs harder, and the engineering resources are not there). The upsides of the muxless design are much quicker and more transparent switching, better driver support in the long term (the mux-based design is laptop specific and rely on hacks that Microsoft doesn't really support), and lower cost. If you use OpenGL programs or games (other than those which run fine on the Intel GPU), don't buy a dv6-6100 or any muxless Radeon graphics laptop. I need a laptop that can run OpenGL now...what are my other options? Most laptops with discrete graphics (integrated graphics can run too but performance will take a hit) can run OpenGL with the exception of the new AMD muxless 6xxx series cards, which should be fixed shortly. Some comparably spec-ed laptops (prices will vary)
I want to upgrade my 6770m to the latest Catalyst Mobility Drivers Official released: 11.6 (5/24/11) AMD Catalyst 11.6 WHQL (8.861 May 24) - Download & Discussion - Guru3D.com Forums Beta leaked drivers: Either a 11.6 hotfix RC or a 11.7 RC (6/8/2011) Catalyst 8.862 RC (08 June) - Guru3D.com Forums Note: DO NOT install these drivers without having installed the HP supplied drivers first. The HP supplied drivers include the Intel IGP drivers, which the official driver packs from AMD don't include If anyone else would like to add to this FAQ of sorts please let me know and I can add. Added on July 1, 2011, 4:29 am QUOTE(T0mmytky @ Jul 1 2011, 03:44 AM) no image for opera because it's normal Any link to the video? i want to try with my Chrome.those pictures are from Firefox and Chrome, both same thing Just tested with IE, it is also normal... not sure why only Firefox and chrome have this problem, quite irritating This post has been edited by Acid_RuleZz: Jul 1 2011, 04:29 AM |
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Jul 1 2011, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2011, 03:49 AM) Long post is long.. read carefully Thanks for explaining... i was totally worried about games. I guess i don't have to then.Source: FAQ: Consolidated thread w/FAQ on 61xx switchable graphics + advice to potential 61xx buyers UPDATED 6/30/2011 I thought I might centralise the discussion for those who ask as whether they should buy the DV6/7 61xx or refund their order as I think the switchable graphics thread has become a little confusing for newcomers. Status of switching on 6770m: As it stands (as of AMD catalyst driver release 11.6) graphical switching for programs that use OpenGL as their SOLE graphic engine will not run on the 6770m discrete graphics card (dGPU). Instead, those programs will only run on the Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics card (IGP) and therefore will not run optimally. As you have probably gathered MANUAL SWITCHING DOES NOT WORK ON DV6/7 61xx AT ALL so we can't override the dynamic switching in place. OpenGL programs that will use Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics
Currently, the 6770m will not register clock and memory speeds properly on monitoring software such as GPU-Z. Benchmarking/stress testing software such as Furmark will not run well at all (OpenGL) and if you bench with any 3DMark software the results screen will show that it's just tested your Intel HD 3000 (which it hasn't, it'll have benched your 6770m, but because under the muxless design, your Intel IGP is always on, it recognises the IGP first, and not your 6770m - more on mux and muxless designs below). Also, you cannot overclock the 6770m in the 61xx whereas you can in the 6xxx range. Does the switching problem only affect 1080 resolution models? No, 768 models are affected too. Should you buy/return? If you:
This is the hard part and it's anybody's guess at the moment as HP and AMD have not made public they are aware of this issue. Through the complaints that all of us have fed back to HP and AMD I'm sure they're aware of it. Some hope that by the release of the 11.7 catalyst drivers due out in July this may be fixed but it's all speculation at this point. But this disclaimer on AMD's switchable graphics web page does not give hope to a resolution anytime soon: "With AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics technology, full enablement of all discrete graphics video and display features may not be supported on all systems (e.g. OpenGL applications will run on the integrated GPU or the APU as the case may be). Always check with your system manufacturer for specific mode capabilities and supported technologies." AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics Technology Are other laptops from other manufacturers affected in the same way? Yes. Any new laptop with the AMD muxless graphics switching design will have this problem, regardless of brand. Here are a few examples: ATI GPU doesn't work on E520 - Lenovo Community IdeaStorm | Update Vostro 3550 AMD 6630/Intel HD 3000 Switchable Drivers What is mux (manual) and muxless (dynamic) graphics switching? Is it a matter of it being a driver or hardware based issue? bsoft explains it better than I can here - edited for brevity and accuracy: Any link to the video? i want to try with my Chrome. |
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2011, 03:49 AM) Long post is long.. read carefully So, tl;dr: AMD dropped the ball with their muxless design and are trying to fix it now?Source: FAQ: Consolidated thread w/FAQ on 61xx switchable graphics + advice to potential 61xx buyers » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Any link to the video? i want to try with my Chrome. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Is this the reason make me not able to play Counter Strike in full screen mode? |
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QUOTE(RiverDrifte @ Jun 30 2011, 01:51 PM) 1 Hdd bay only bro. finally got u answer me... lol thx bro ur the man. |
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QUOTE(ThisIsBoletaria @ Jul 1 2011, 07:31 AM) Don't even know if AMD/HP trying to fix this. All anticipated a fix in upcoming 11.7 Catalyst or Bios update from HP. QUOTE(reevephon @ Jul 1 2011, 07:32 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Is this the reason make me not able to play Counter Strike in full screen mode? Added on July 1, 2011, 10:09 am QUOTE(RiverDrifte @ Jun 30 2011, 07:40 PM) So.. i become a ratlab again.No problem encountered while installing. Ran few benchmarks@stock clocks. Dirt 3 49 Fps 3Dmark06 11760 3DMarkVantage P7133 3DMark11 P1577 Final Fantasy XIV 2579 Also.. a noticeable gain in Tropico 3 and The Witcher 2. By the way.. Shift 2 DLC ish aweshum. The Legend car pack is beautiful. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Acid_RuleZz: Jul 1 2011, 10:10 AM |
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Morning peep~~ good day for everyone.
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2011, 03:49 AM) Long post is long.. read carefully very nice acid~ thanks for the article. Source: FAQ: Consolidated thread w/FAQ on 61xx switchable graphics + advice to potential 61xx buyers UPDATED 6/30/2011 I thought I might centralise the discussion for those who ask as whether they should buy the DV6/7 61xx or refund their order as I think the switchable graphics thread has become a little confusing for newcomers. Status of switching on 6770m: As it stands (as of AMD catalyst driver release 11.6) graphical switching for programs that use OpenGL as their SOLE graphic engine will not run on the 6770m discrete graphics card (dGPU). Instead, those programs will only run on the Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics card (IGP) and therefore will not run optimally. As you have probably gathered MANUAL SWITCHING DOES NOT WORK ON DV6/7 61xx AT ALL so we can't override the dynamic switching in place. OpenGL programs that will use Intel HD 3000 integrated graphics
Currently, the 6770m will not register clock and memory speeds properly on monitoring software such as GPU-Z. Benchmarking/stress testing software such as Furmark will not run well at all (OpenGL) and if you bench with any 3DMark software the results screen will show that it's just tested your Intel HD 3000 (which it hasn't, it'll have benched your 6770m, but because under the muxless design, your Intel IGP is always on, it recognises the IGP first, and not your 6770m - more on mux and muxless designs below). Also, you cannot overclock the 6770m in the 61xx whereas you can in the 6xxx range. Does the switching problem only affect 1080 resolution models? No, 768 models are affected too. Should you buy/return? If you:
This is the hard part and it's anybody's guess at the moment as HP and AMD have not made public they are aware of this issue. Through the complaints that all of us have fed back to HP and AMD I'm sure they're aware of it. Some hope that by the release of the 11.7 catalyst drivers due out in July this may be fixed but it's all speculation at this point. But this disclaimer on AMD's switchable graphics web page does not give hope to a resolution anytime soon: "With AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics technology, full enablement of all discrete graphics video and display features may not be supported on all systems (e.g. OpenGL applications will run on the integrated GPU or the APU as the case may be). Always check with your system manufacturer for specific mode capabilities and supported technologies." AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics Technology Are other laptops from other manufacturers affected in the same way? Yes. Any new laptop with the AMD muxless graphics switching design will have this problem, regardless of brand. Here are a few examples: ATI GPU doesn't work on E520 - Lenovo Community IdeaStorm | Update Vostro 3550 AMD 6630/Intel HD 3000 Switchable Drivers What is mux (manual) and muxless (dynamic) graphics switching? Is it a matter of it being a driver or hardware based issue? bsoft explains it better than I can here - edited for brevity and accuracy: Any link to the video? i want to try with my Chrome. guys, am very bad luck, last night when my laptop hang, it freeze at "restoring system registry" during doing system restore with my external HD backup disk, at first i try not interrupt my laptop but after 2 hour its still hang there (the round circle waiting icon don't even rounding circle) then i decide to sleep. when i wake up this morning the screen still showing same thing, i am trying force reboot & tada ~~ i cant boot in to window anymore lol then i try to boot with the recovery dvd and my external backup disk both also fail, am now downloading a system repair disk ISO to burn into cd to try again after work, hopefully the system repair cd will work for my laptop. |
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Acid_RuleZz.. did u OC ur card? i bet u use current stock right? u play dirt 3 use what setting?
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u use core/memory? 47 fps is great score.. i also can't get it.. all medium & off AA & AF & vsync get 50 fps nia..
the highest guy OC 6770M >> http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1450218 This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: Jul 1 2011, 10:38 AM |
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acid, cheers for the FAQ post, much appreciated
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