phoenix69, i think you need to compile a final photos for us to have a look!
Renovation Extreme Work In Progress, Sharing my house renovation journey.
Renovation Extreme Work In Progress, Sharing my house renovation journey.
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Apr 13 2012, 02:23 PM
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phoenix69, i think you need to compile a final photos for us to have a look!
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Apr 14 2012, 11:58 AM
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Apr 16 2012, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 5 2012, 03:05 PM) i bought a 40 inch door for rm 680. Expensive i know, but no choice. Paint, carpenter said use nippon timber shellac is the best for long term. Hi, can u tell me where u bought your door? The price is Grade A door?if you want modern, can opt for plywood door as you can put formica designs and metal strips to look good. |
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Apr 16 2012, 03:56 PM
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I bought at TYM Door Specialist (Poh Yep distributor).
Grade B lah. Not willing to pay for Grade A. |
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Apr 16 2012, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Mar 9 2012, 12:42 PM) Renovation Updates :- Hi Bro, looks like you have installed the Grundfos Pump with a pressure tank. Let me tell you my horror story about this pump.Water - the quest for clean residential household water After washing clean my water tank, I asked the plumber to optimize my existing water piping system. There were 2 things that I wanted done. 1. To maximise the water flow with the right pipe in and out from my Groundfos pump. - The existing pipes was not optimized so, re-do the pipes. 2. To add in a main water by pass as illustrated by zheilwane below so that when there is electricity cut, water pressure will still be sufficient to flow up my solar water heater, and thus assure that I will still get hot water when there is no electricity. This also ensures that water pressure is sufficient to power my shower when electricity's out. zheilwane illustration main water by pass piping system ![]() Water - Part 3:- POP (Point of Piping - My own term Drilling a hole at the bottom of my water tank for a new pipe attachment. ![]() Pipes attached ![]() Add valve ![]() Connect to pump (booster pump) ![]() Pump connect to the whole house piping system ![]() Install a main water by pass with a non return valve (the yellow colour part) from the main incoming water pipe direct to the pump outgoing pipe direct to the whole house piping system. ![]() My POP water piping system , kaw thim I have installed the same pump about 5 years ago at my house based on the advice from my solarmate water heater supplier to increase the pressure of the shower and etc. It was so good until I started to face pipe burst (after 2 years) inside the wall. So, called the original plumber to check and he said that it is due to poor quality of pipe installed by developer. Within a weeks time, the same pipe burst again but at different place!! I was not happy with my old plumber, so I called another plumber and he told me the same thing (quality of the pipe not good). Since then, it became a routine to replace burst pipes every now and then in my whole house. I have used almost 6 different plumber but all of them blamed the original pipe installed by the developer was very low in quality (thin its seems). I realised that I could hear funny sound from the celling everytime I on and off the water tap. So I suspected it could be the pump that I installed. So I called Grundfos @ Glenmarie and to my suprise, they told me that any Grundfos pump with a tank need to be service every 6 months once!!!! The Grundfos technician who visited my house told me that due to inconsistent of pressure at pump could lead to burst pipe. He advice to service the pump every 6 months once to avoid such problem!!!! So do remember to service your pump every six months once. Good luck! |
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Apr 16 2012, 05:14 PM
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so Maplin,
wat pipe that u using? got the model or the name? |
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Apr 16 2012, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Maplin @ Apr 16 2012, 05:08 PM) Hi Bro, looks like you have installed the Grundfos Pump with a pressure tank. Let me tell you my horror story about this pump. Thanks for the reminder to service my pump. I have installed the same pump about 5 years ago at my house based on the advice from my solarmate water heater supplier to increase the pressure of the shower and etc. It was so good until I started to face pipe burst (after 2 years) inside the wall. So, called the original plumber to check and he said that it is due to poor quality of pipe installed by developer. Within a weeks time, the same pipe burst again but at different place!! I was not happy with my old plumber, so I called another plumber and he told me the same thing (quality of the pipe not good). Since then, it became a routine to replace burst pipes every now and then in my whole house. I have used almost 6 different plumber but all of them blamed the original pipe installed by the developer was very low in quality (thin its seems). I realised that I could hear funny sound from the celling everytime I on and off the water tap. So I suspected it could be the pump that I installed. So I called Grundfos @ Glenmarie and to my suprise, they told me that any Grundfos pump with a tank need to be service every 6 months once!!!! The Grundfos technician who visited my house told me that due to inconsistent of pressure at pump could lead to burst pipe. He advice to service the pump every 6 months once to avoid such problem!!!! So do remember to service your pump every six months once. Good luck! My supplier advised to service the pump pressure tank every 9-12 months. From your description, it seems that your woes are more from your pipes than from your pump. As far as I understand, all pump with pressure tank are "gentle" on the house piping system compared to pump without pressure tank. This pump model that I use is "gentler" compared to most pump with pressure tank, as it has an additional adjustable pressure setting with built-in dry-running protection for automatic start/stop. I use PVC7 for my water pipes as I understand from this forum that this pipe model is strong. My contractor and another plumber confirmed this. |
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Apr 16 2012, 06:55 PM
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Your pipe burst has nothing to do with the pump. If you do not service the tank, your pump would not start immediately when u turn on ur tap and the pressure is inconsistent but it will not cause a sudden increase to burst your pipes. Your pump's pressure will not increase like 150% or 200% stronger than the usual and burst ur pipes.
Pipe burst is usually from the joints and not directly burst out from the pipes. |
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Apr 16 2012, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Maplin @ Apr 16 2012, 05:08 PM) Hi Bro, looks like you have installed the Grundfos Pump with a pressure tank. Let me tell you my horror story about this pump. What you need to service on the pump? I have installed the same pump about 5 years ago at my house based on the advice from my solarmate water heater supplier to increase the pressure of the shower and etc. It was so good until I started to face pipe burst (after 2 years) inside the wall. So, called the original plumber to check and he said that it is due to poor quality of pipe installed by developer. Within a weeks time, the same pipe burst again but at different place!! I was not happy with my old plumber, so I called another plumber and he told me the same thing (quality of the pipe not good). Since then, it became a routine to replace burst pipes every now and then in my whole house. I have used almost 6 different plumber but all of them blamed the original pipe installed by the developer was very low in quality (thin its seems). I realised that I could hear funny sound from the celling everytime I on and off the water tap. So I suspected it could be the pump that I installed. So I called Grundfos @ Glenmarie and to my suprise, they told me that any Grundfos pump with a tank need to be service every 6 months once!!!! The Grundfos technician who visited my house told me that due to inconsistent of pressure at pump could lead to burst pipe. He advice to service the pump every 6 months once to avoid such problem!!!! So do remember to service your pump every six months once. Good luck! Look like high cost to own a pump which require service every 6mth. |
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Apr 17 2012, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Apr 16 2012, 05:14 PM) You mean the original pipe from developer or the new pipe that I installed?The developer's pipe was ABS (the blue color) but now I changed to PPR (I use KE-Kelit brand from Austria) with 50 years warranty. Added on April 17, 2012, 12:36 pm QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 16 2012, 06:50 PM) Thanks for the reminder to service my pump. My supplier advised to service the pump pressure tank every 9-12 months. From your description, it seems that your woes are more from your pipes than from your pump. As far as I understand, all pump with pressure tank are "gentle" on the house piping system compared to pump without pressure tank. This pump model that I use is "gentler" compared to most pump with pressure tank, as it has an additional adjustable pressure setting with built-in dry-running protection for automatic start/stop. Yes, agreed with you, but the problem here is not due to high pressure but due to inconsistents in the pressure. According to the technician, the reason to do the servicing/ maintenance of the tank is because of the lost of air inside the pump's storage tank and also to replace damaged seal and etc. Nothing got to do with dry run. I use PVC7 for my water pipes as I understand from this forum that this pipe model is strong. My contractor and another plumber confirmed this. I hopes so. Good luck anyway. Added on April 17, 2012, 12:49 pm QUOTE(zheilwane @ Apr 16 2012, 06:55 PM) Your pipe burst has nothing to do with the pump. If you do not service the tank, your pump would not start immediately when u turn on ur tap and the pressure is inconsistent but it will not cause a sudden increase to burst your pipes. Your pump's pressure will not increase like 150% or 200% stronger than the usual and burst ur pipes. This was the typical anwser I got from all my previous plumber who attended the burst pipe problem. Unfortunately none of them are correct. As I said earlier, The burst pipe was not due to sudden high pressure from the pump/tank. It was due to inconsistent in the pressure within the range. I can see the water pressure from the tap goes high and low every second. Pipe burst is usually from the joints and not directly burst out from the pipes. Yes, the burst pipes usualy happen at the joint, but mine happen at middle of the pipe. Its like a crack on the pipe. The only reason I suspect it can happen is due to vibration caused by the high and low presure from the pump. This post has been edited by Maplin: Apr 17 2012, 12:49 PM |
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Apr 17 2012, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE I use PVC7 for my water pipes as I understand from this forum that this pipe model is strong. flex.gif my old man house, i install Grundfos Water Pump CH-PC 40 if i remember correctly, pressure @40psi all the time & added a PT tank to counter the frequent pump start/stop, cold water piping using paling class E, hot water piping = copper.My contractor and another plumber confirmed this. I hopes so. Good luck anyway. Problem free for 7 years already, except recharge the air inside the PT tank so no worry |
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Apr 19 2012, 11:48 AM
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Renovation Updates :
The Final Frontier... My rooftop Asked the Solar Water Heating System Supplier to take a look at my unit recently When they were here I followed them up the roof. Never been to the top of my house myself and I never seen the actual Solar water heating unit before this. Damm high up, having second thoughts when I saw this. ![]() My Solar Water Heating Unit. ![]() This post has been edited by phoenix69: Apr 19 2012, 11:49 AM |
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Apr 19 2012, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:48 AM) Renovation Updates : Jeng! nice postThe Final Frontier... My rooftop Asked the Solar Water Heating System Supplier to take a look at my unit recently When they were here I followed them up the roof. Never been to the top of my house myself and I never seen the actual Solar water heating unit before this. Damm high up, having second thoughts when I saw this. ![]() My Solar Water Heating Unit. ![]() |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:28 PM
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Hey Guys, I am looking for something like this.
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Apr 19 2012, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:48 AM) Renovation Updates : Phoenix,The Final Frontier... My rooftop Asked the Solar Water Heating System Supplier to take a look at my unit recently When they were here I followed them up the roof. Never been to the top of my house myself and I never seen the actual Solar water heating unit before this. Damm high up, having second thoughts when I saw this. ![]() My Solar Water Heating Unit. ![]() Noticed your grills in the kitchen are different from the front wrought irene..may i ask :- 1) is that Hollow Steel 2) Whats the dimension ? |
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Apr 19 2012, 03:12 PM
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Apr 19 2012, 11:18 PM
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are you looking something like this?
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Apr 20 2012, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Apr 19 2012, 01:28 PM) Hey Guys, I am looking for something like this. like this:--» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Anywhere can I get this made or is there anything similar???? cheap cheap one below rm100 Added on April 20, 2012, 1:14 amBTW, how u going to finish off the roof trusses with the transparent sheets?? This post has been edited by skng03: Apr 20 2012, 01:14 AM |
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Apr 20 2012, 06:01 PM
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Apr 20 2012, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Apr 20 2012, 01:12 AM) like this:-- U can get this from any bath / toilet shops or they do sell at Houz Depot too.cheap cheap one below rm100 Added on April 20, 2012, 1:14 amBTW, how u going to finish off the roof trusses with the transparent sheets?? However, u will need to get those slight higher quality ones. Cheap ones are really flimsy Last time i got mine at this Shop...I think it's called GBH in SS15 Subang...behind Hassan's Restaurant about RM130+ i think... its 6ft Long |
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