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post Dec 13 2005, 07:37 PM

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ok i have a few q...
1. which is better, sempron 64 or athlon 64?
2. which can oc more?

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post Dec 13 2005, 08:10 PM

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Palermo E0/E3/E6 overclocking ability are comparable to Venice because they're basically the same core, different L2 cache size. So cannot really say which can o.c more.

And it is obviously Athlon64 is better because it's dual channel and had larger L2 cache.
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post Dec 14 2005, 12:48 AM

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erm..2500+ also very powerfull.i just can hit 36 super Pi at 325Htt 2800+.erm....loser here!
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post Dec 14 2005, 02:39 PM

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i see that u guys oc sempron until 2.6 ghz...can athlon oc that much?
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post Dec 14 2005, 03:56 PM

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no problem, higher also can.... but most athlon64 can oc higher than the common semprons
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post Dec 14 2005, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(matt_rix @ Dec 14 2005, 02:39 PM)
i see that u guys oc sempron until 2.6 ghz...can athlon oc that much?
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read siggy. smile.gif my sempron didn't reach 2.6ghz but my athlon reached. however i decided to run at 2.5 instead. at least i don't have to up vcore. smile.gif
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goldfries, at same speed can u feel ur a64 run faster? brows.gif
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 14 2005, 04:06 PM)
read siggy. smile.gif my sempron didn't reach 2.6ghz but my athlon reached. however i decided to run at 2.5 instead. at least i don't have to up vcore. smile.gif
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wow, you're pretty good...can play with sempron only..hehe...no money to continue to fund my Athlon 64 rig...hehe...let me know if it feels fast... tongue.gif

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Jan 3 2006, 08:15 AM)
goldfries, at same speed can u feel ur a64 run faster? brows.gif
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haha....i think S64 will beat A64... whistling.gif

thread getting pretty boring now...do you think its wise to run my Vcore at 1.7v for burn in?? like wat Soufly did? wanna breach 2.7ghz la
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I didn't really burn-in my processor. I just run at whatever voltage that is stable for my processor. That's why I'm running it at 1.7V. I think it's the max for me until I can get better configuration or setting with lower voltage.

Anyway... for now I'm only running everything at default speed for low power consumption and quiet computering experience. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Jan 3 2006, 08:15 AM)
goldfries, at same speed can u feel ur a64 run faster? brows.gif
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didn't try. i doubt you'll see any difference if both running same speed / FSB.

the A64 will have advantage of cache intensive applications but other than that.

i'm running A64 on NV8 and S64 on DFI INF N4X. biggrin.gif the NV8 seems to be less picky on RAM, able to run dual-stick (double-sided) at 220++ mhz while the DFI board just refuses to run dual-stick properly.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 3 2006, 03:16 PM)
I didn't really burn-in my processor. I just run at whatever voltage that is stable for my processor. That's why I'm running it at 1.7V. I think it's the max for me until I can get better configuration or setting with lower voltage.

Anyway... for now I'm only running everything at default speed for low power consumption and quiet computering experience. biggrin.gif
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oh...but issit safe ar..Vcore at 1.7v? hmm...how bout 1.75v for burn in?? hehe..issit too much?? tongue.gif wanna run 2.7Ghz at 1.6v if its possible la... sad.gif
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If you want to burn-in, try this method... dunno whether it's effective for K8 or not, but seems like it works well on Barton K7

1. Set the speed you want to achieve (ie: 2.7ghz) and make sure your RAM does not holding you back.
2. Set the lowest vcore that is able to run the cpu in windows. At least it can run light applications such as browsing or SuperPi 1M.
3. Use CPU Burn-in or SiSandra burn in (set to highest priority, use only arithmetic and multimedia) to burn-in your cpu.
4. Monitor your temp, make sure it stays around 10-15'C below TCaseMax value (use Central Brain Identifier to check TCaseMax).
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 3 2006, 05:33 PM)
If you want to burn-in, try this method... dunno whether it's effective for K8 or not, but seems like it works well on Barton K7

1. Set the speed you want to achieve (ie: 2.7ghz) and make sure your RAM does not holding you back.
2. Set the lowest vcore that is able to run the cpu in windows. At least it can run light applications such as browsing or SuperPi 1M.
3. Use CPU Burn-in or SiSandra burn in (set to highest priority, use only arithmetic and multimedia) to burn-in your cpu.
4. Monitor your temp, make sure it stays around 10-15'C below TCaseMax value (use Central Brain Identifier to check TCaseMax).
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hmm...lowes possible Vcore? i thought that wont work? since it wont "burn" the processor..i thought burning in is to let the Vcore as high as possible (bout 1.75v or 1.7v) and use sandra wizard to burn? how long should i leave it running?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 3 2006, 05:33 PM)
If you want to burn-in, try this method... dunno whether it's effective for K8 or not, but seems like it works well on Barton K7

1. Set the speed you want to achieve (ie: 2.7ghz) and make sure your RAM does not holding you back.
2. Set the lowest vcore that is able to run the cpu in windows. At least it can run light applications such as browsing or SuperPi 1M.
3. Use CPU Burn-in or SiSandra burn in (set to highest priority, use only arithmetic and multimedia) to burn-in your cpu.
4. Monitor your temp, make sure it stays around 10-15'C below TCaseMax value (use Central Brain Identifier to check TCaseMax).
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That abit opposite from the method i already practise.

1. Set the Max VCore that your motherboard allow (is: 1.85v)
2. Set around 500mhz below stock Speed.
3. Use CPU Burn-in or SiSandra burn in (set to highest priority, use only arithmetic and multimedia) to burn-in your cpu.
4. And make sure your temp always around 63c+ and above for 2days non stop.

Honestly..it work for my old 2800+ .
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post Jan 3 2006, 06:04 PM

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rather than indicating the steps alone, maybe you guys could include the reason for doing steps #1 and #2.

why set to max / lowest vcore?
why set to max speed / -500mhz from default?
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post Jan 3 2006, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:00 PM)
That abit opposite from the method i already practise.

1. Set the Max VCore that your motherboard allow (is: 1.85v)
2. Set around 500mhz below stock Speed.
3. Use CPU Burn-in or SiSandra burn in (set to highest priority, use only arithmetic and multimedia) to burn-in your cpu.
4. And make sure your temp always around 63c+ and above for 2days non stop.

Honestly..it work for my old 2800+ .
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500mhz below stock speed? how do you do that? the multiplier is locked...hmm...but what if i cant leave my comp on for 2 days? can provide more detail?
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 3 2006, 06:09 PM)
500mhz below stock speed? how do you do that? the multiplier is locked...hmm...but what if i cant leave my comp on for 2 days? can provide more detail?
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rather than indicating the steps alone, maybe you guys could include the reason for doing steps #1 and #2.

why set to max / lowest vcore?
why set to max speed / -500mhz from default


haha.that sound weird. Later your proc burn. thumbup.gif

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post Jan 3 2006, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 3 2006, 06:09 PM)
500mhz below stock speed? how do you do that? the multiplier is locked...hmm...but what if i cant leave my comp on for 2 days? can provide more detail?
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That underclocking method only applies to Tbred/barton/Venice939 . For those locked CPU...default is the only choise. Btw..if not hot enuff..run it fanless. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:26 PM)
That underclocking method only applies to Tbred/barton/Venice939 . For those locked CPU...default is the only choise. Btw..if not hot enuff..run it fanless.  thumbup.gif
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omg...your processor wont burn ar?? blink.gif can i run at the selected speed (2.7ghz) and set my Vcore to max? (max is 2.2v ler...think that is too much for any1 to handle...i'll set it to 1.7v and try it out)
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 3 2006, 07:15 PM)
omg...your processor wont burn ar?? blink.gif can i run at the selected speed (2.7ghz) and set my Vcore to max? (max is 2.2v ler...think that is too much for any1 to handle...i'll set it to 1.7v and try it out)
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1.7v too low le...my daily use now for venice is 1.825v. biggrin.gif


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