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soulfly
post Aug 27 2005, 09:35 AM

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dude... what's your 2500+ stepping?

anyway... let's make a sempron K8 database
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post Aug 28 2005, 10:00 PM

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Cyclone,

I only set my LDT to auto for a 300MHz HTT, but on some mobo, 3x LDT may be required.

BTW... I believe your stepping should be 0528UPMW... not 0328UPMW

2003 they dun have palermo yet tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2005, 12:09 PM

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very very true indeed. what most important is the clockspeed, because the FSB is running at full clockspeed
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wah wah... so easily can do 2.7ghz!

palermo rocks!
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post Aug 29 2005, 05:33 PM

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this palermo E6 is the lil bro of venice
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post Aug 29 2005, 08:49 PM

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look for any sempron 64 ... it should be the E6 stepping

non64 sempron should be either D0, E0 or E3
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Aug 29 2005, 09:40 PM)
all socket 754 dont if im not mistaken
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exactly

s-754 = single channel
s-939 = dual channel

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QUOTE(CHICANOS @ Aug 30 2005, 10:44 PM)
xbitlabs stated that this 3100+ does not support AMD64 technology...betul ke?...
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if it's a Sempron64 ... it sure does support AMD64 technology, regardless any speed it's rated at....

the xbitlabs that you read must've been covering the 32-bit version

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BA = D0, E0
BO = E3
BX = E6
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 31 2005, 12:12 AM)
If im not mistaken only Palermo E6 BX stepping support X86-64bit .

correct me if im wrong . biggrin.gif
exactly

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Aug 31 2005, 12:22 AM)
btw when will s939 sempron come out? will it better than s754 a lot?
not so soon.... but currently there are s939 sempron, but only to catter OEM pc market only

QUOTE(HairlessLamer @ Aug 31 2005, 09:50 AM)
If sempron clock around 2.5ghz, would it overtake a S939 A64 3200+ which is operate at 2.0ghz i guess?
yup... and a few 3GHz P4s also

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 1 2005, 12:19 AM)
A note here, Even the overclocked s64 in theory is able to beat a p4 3.8ghz at certain benchies, imo, the p4 with its HT will still whack the s64 good enough. Being a user from p.4 3.8ghz to s64, i can feel the 'lagginess' especially multi tasking in the s64. anyways, nothing to complain though,bang for the buck, s64 wins hands down
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in multitasking, P4 is the king... no doubt about that, even P4 had a big advantage in multitasking over Athlon64
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post Sep 2 2005, 09:30 PM

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for above 300mhz htt set...

LDT bus : Auto
LDT multiplier : x3 (on some nF3 mobo just set Auto)
AGP : 66mhz (67mhz for extra stability in gaming)

try play with different chipset voltage combination
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 3 2005, 01:47 PM)
Hey guys, I'm not fimiliar with S754 and I am building a Semprom64 for my little sister. I would like a mobo with build in VGA and sound because she is just 6 yrs old and will be using for some educational softwares. Any idea which mobo is good? Thanks.
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Sep 3 2005, 05:25 PM)
hey...tested my Sempron 2800+
now stable at 287x8.0
the bios update for my mobo sux la...now still using older bios..
dumb msi vmad.gif
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download the new bios manually and use the dos utility to flash
works fine with me
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post Sep 4 2005, 03:27 PM

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Malaysian, Asus K8N is using what chipset?

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Sep 4 2005, 08:28 PM)
hmm..the problem is that i cant set the timings to 2T..if i can set that, i'll jump right into it...
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why would u need 2T? blink.gif

2T is 'cheap' lar laugh.gif
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post Sep 7 2005, 06:12 PM

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First of all... DO NOT RUN AT 2T.
2T mode sucks big time. There are many other ways to push the RAM to run at higher speed besides running at 2T. Just leave it at 1T instead.

redleaf,

Firstly, have you updated the BIOS? E6 runs best with the latest official BIOS.

Since you got an E6 and the best S754 mobo around, we skip 250MHz, and go for 300MHz instead.

First, we need to make sure whether your CH-5 can do 200mhz 2-2-2-5. I think you should know how do do this part, and enable the memtest option. Run memtest85 at Test #5. If you can pass 50 loops, it's okay already. If you cannot pass, just run your ram at 200mhz 2-3-2-6, it's fine enough.

Okay, let's get to the 300MHz FSB thingy.... try out this setting:
Genie BIOS Settings:

FSB Bus Frequency - 300
AGP Bus Frequency - 66mhz
Clock Spread Spectrum - Disabled
LDT Downstream Width - Auto
LDT Upstream Width - Auto
LDT/FSB Frequency - Auto
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 8x


CPU VID Control - 1.4V
CPU VID Special Control - AUTO
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.60v
AGP Voltage Control - 1.50v
DRAM Voltage Control - 3.10v

DRAM Configuration Settings:

DRAM Frequency Set - 133 (DRAM/FSB:2/03)

Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 02 Bus Clocks (03 for better stability)
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 5 Bus Clocks (set 6 if Trcd=3)
Row precharge time (Trp) - 02 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - Auto
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - Auto
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - Auto
Write recovery time (Twr) - Auto
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - Auto
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - Auto
Refresh Period (Tref) - Auto
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

(everything else just leave it at auto)

Then try run SuperPi 32M or Prime95.
1. If there is error, you might need to increase the CPU voltage.
2. If you have trouble getting into windows (blue screen etc) try increase the chipset voltage.
3. If you have trouble running 3d applications, set AGP speed to 67MHz and AGP voltage to 1.6v
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 7 2005, 06:40 PM)
The double sided has some issues with NF3 . ( dates back to NF2 again?  rolleyes.gif  )
none at all

i'm running 300mhz htt without divider with my double sided 512MB TCCD at 1T

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post Sep 8 2005, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(redleaf @ Sep 8 2005, 07:54 PM)
soulfly, i tried with the settings but still cant boot winxp successfully....it always stop at the "winxp" screen, no error msg, no blue screen. is there any relation with my sata hdd (seagate baracuda 160gb)
tried to push vcore to 1.55v and chipset voltage to 1.9 already...
any idea?
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since you're using sata... make sure you're using nvidia sata controller (no 3 & 4)

don't use the marvell
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post Sep 9 2005, 10:09 AM

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the reason not to use marvell sata is because the sata port is not 'locked' properly during overclocking.

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