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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13

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yngchung
post Jun 26 2011, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 25 2011, 11:45 AM)
Wow, so many new owners coming in. Congratulations!!!
I hope you enjoy your new ride.

For those who want to put their names on the owner's list at the front page, please PM the Thread Starter, xshiro, with your model, auto/manual and color. If you just post here, he might miss it, since he might be busy with his life.

As for those 1.6 owners, if you don't mind following the procedures below for measuring FC, it would be much appreciated, as I would love to see what the real FC of the 1.6 is like. biggrin.gif
bro, I juz fill in Rm55 n 5/6 level for petrol are shown(why not full tank? because I tot it's full tank when I fill in it.. the pump keep stop itself... zzz), n I drove 35km n yet it's still 5/6 level shown... by the way, it's hard for me to know yet since today is the first day I get the car... may be I've to try full tank by tmr or tuesday n try to get the real n accurate measurement... =X

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 25 2011, 12:55 PM)
As far as I know, the R3 bodykit is currently only for the BLM, and not FL

If you really want, need to custom make one.

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thx... but I finding PU material(worker say PU is better, I also dunno)... customize shud b fiber material??? O.O

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 25 2011, 03:30 PM)
ericmaxman
it will not be in market for sure. r3 kits original from r3 are those rides which really came into the world in competitions. let it be gen2 r3 or satria neo r3. they really put it into matches and races, so kits came into market. for this saga fl r3, it wont become a kit till the ride is putted into a race. mah 2 sens.

if anyone want an r3 kit for FL, my current price is rm2500, but requires 1 month time of production and as well i need a front and rear FL bumper for benchmark purposes.
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1month? need a front n rear bumper? :S who are willing sacrify and "naked" their btm for a month? LOLx... =X


Added on June 26, 2011, 3:31 amand actually I've change my rims since the I get my car today... n I dunno whether it'll affect FC or not la... btw, it's juz 15inch babe...
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This post has been edited by yngchung: Jun 26 2011, 03:31 AM
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post Jun 26 2011, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 25 2011, 10:04 PM)
bro, our cars got no spark plug cables.

its all coil-on-plug
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I've read abt that...wink.gif But hv yet 2C wat it really looks like...NO CABLES at all??
Feel shld hv 2supply 12V 2plugs, rt? Then cld it b those "coils" on the plugs giving prob??

ps. Will try remove engine cover 1 of these days 2C wat's under it!! Haha! Me like "old school" & out-of-date liao... sad.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 7:04 am@rajivshm : BLMs/FLs dun hv all those hi-tech stuff like ABS, EBD, etc... Only got "Lotus Handling"!! thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Jun 26 2011, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 12:57 AM)
it's too hot???
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nah.. i dun think so its bcoz its hot.. i think its the ecu adapting to the current way of driving therefore will produce the torque needed.. the constant gear dropping and pickup needed.. smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 10:04 PM)
IAFM sound is a sound like an airplane taking off
it's not road noise...it's your tyre noisy
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Any1 got recording of or any YouTube video of IAFM in operation "airplane taking off" sound? Really dunno wat is meant...dumbo here... sad.gif
Hv seen & heard IAFM problem sounds but not proper & good-working IAFM sounds la... nod.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 7:15 amAnd yup, feel that BLMs/FLs are very silent (on GY Ducaro GAs) if road is newly laid & good quality surface! XM1s kinda noisy...

Any1 oledi shod their wheels with XM2s? Share Share lo...TQ! wink.gif

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post Jun 26 2011, 08:20 AM

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How IAFM control fuel intake? So that mean, below RPM 4500 1.3 liter engine meanwhile Upper RPM 4500 became 1.5 liter engine? Same others VVti and Vtec. Its about Fuel flow to combustion chamber.
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post Jun 26 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 26 2011, 12:57 AM)
bro.. how come ur car so sick..? how many years old..?
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2 years oni

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 26 2011, 09:39 AM)
2 years oni

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oo.. u must have been banging her hard.. laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 26 2011, 10:07 AM)
oo.. u must have been banging her hard..  laugh.gif
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Reign @ Jun 26 2011, 08:20 AM)
How IAFM control fuel intake? So that mean, below RPM 4500 1.3 liter engine meanwhile Upper RPM 4500 became 1.5 liter engine? Same others VVti and Vtec. Its about Fuel flow to combustion chamber.
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IAFM controls the air intake..not fuel
once hit 80KM/H...it opens and suck cool air into the engine thus cooling the engine
cool engine = smoother pickup, better FC
if u notice once u hit 80KM/H...everything becomes so smooth even when aircon kicks in
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:49 PM

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Re Coil On Plug systems, it appears that there are 2 types, namely DI (Direct Ignition) and "Wasted Spark" (1 coil for 2 spark plugs).

Which type is used in BLMs/FLs? Maybe the "Wasted Spark" system...which is cheaper?

Can some1 pls clarify?

ps. This mayb Ericmazman's prob? 1 faulty coil affects firing of 2 cylinders at one go!! Very rough idling &?engine dies...
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 26 2011, 12:49 PM)
Re Coil On Plug systems, it appears that there are 2 types, namely DI (Direct Ignition) and "Wasted Spark" (1 coil for 2 spark plugs).

Which type is used in BLMs/FLs? Maybe the "Wasted Spark" system...which is cheaper?

Can some1 pls clarify?

ps. This mayb Ericmazman's prob? 1 faulty coil affects firing of 2 cylinders at one go!! Very rough idling &?engine dies...
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each coil has one plug.

DI
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:53 PM

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MyVi might b using the "Coil Pack" system ie all 4 ignition coils in a moulded pack?? Or am I wrong?
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 26 2011, 12:49 PM)
Re Coil On Plug systems, it appears that there are 2 types, namely DI (Direct Ignition) and "Wasted Spark" (1 coil for 2 spark plugs).

Which type is used in BLMs/FLs? Maybe the "Wasted Spark" system...which is cheaper?

Can some1 pls clarify?

ps. This mayb Ericmazman's prob? 1 faulty coil affects firing of 2 cylinders at one go!! Very rough idling &?engine dies...
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i dn't think...cuz he said it sparks well
it's the engine that sound rough and dies....it's something moving inside the engine that caused the problem
it's engine something moving inside the engine or the ECU itself
cuz he said the RPM fluctuate wildly...these are the 2 things that control the RPM
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 26 2011, 12:51 PM)
each coil has one plug.

DI
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OIC. TQ, bro, for info. Me really need 2remove that engine cover & hv good look soon!! Haha!

So hv yu found out cause of yr prob? Or at least narrowed it down to a couple possible ones mayb?
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 26 2011, 12:56 PM)
OIC. TQ, bro, for info. Me really need 2remove that engine cover & hv good look soon!! Haha!

So hv yu found out cause of yr prob? Or at least narrowed it down to a couple possible ones mayb?
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Most likely ignition got prob.

mech not yet come
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post Jun 26 2011, 12:59 PM

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Oh no... Yu r fast, bro! Answers b4 my questions published!! thumbup.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:00 pmMech gone 4lunch, huh? wink.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:02 pmSit tight, ok? Wish yu all the very best!!


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:20 pmLink to YouTube video on how to test for faulty ignition Coil On Plug :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxRx31f6BXQ...be_gdata_player

For knowledge & mayb of help for future? icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 26 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 26 2011, 12:59 PM)
Oh no... Yu r fast, bro! Answers b4 my questions published!! thumbup.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:00 pmMech gone 4lunch, huh? wink.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:02 pmSit tight, ok? Wish yu all the very best!!


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:20 pmLink to YouTube video on how to test for faulty ignition Coil On Plug :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxRx31f6BXQ...be_gdata_player

For knowledge & mayb of help for future? icon_idea.gif
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Hmm, mine can crank..but cant start

mech crank for 10 seconds also still cant start
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post Jun 26 2011, 01:42 PM

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my new fc only 13.7km/L
cant reach 15km/L
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post Jun 26 2011, 01:45 PM

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Did mech pull out (one by one) the COP holders & chk 4sparks?
If all units not hv sparks, then chk 4power supply to units.
If no power supply to all units, then trace backwards...

Elimination...wink.gif icon_idea.gif


Added on June 26, 2011, 1:50 pmps. Above re for @Ericmaxman...

@sg999 : Drive like those taking part in "Economic Runs" then yu'll break all FC records!! thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Jun 26 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 26 2011, 01:45 PM)
Did mech pull out (one by one) the COP holders & chk 4sparks?
If all units not hv sparks, then chk 4power supply to units.
If no power supply to all units, then trace backwards...

Elimination...wink.gif icon_idea.gif

ps. Above re for @Ericmaxman...

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