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 Skmm request ISP to block warez sites.

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post Jun 11 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(whiteshirt @ Jun 11 2011, 02:55 PM)
What next to ban, FB.... why dont they ban youtube, lot of pirate there too.
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Then, SKMM need to block google too. They lead people to "pirate" tongue.gif If they dare to do it, prepare to face demostration like hosni mubarak, gomen
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post Jun 11 2011, 03:46 PM

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http://www.isup.me/thepiratebay.org

Is up!!!

VPN accessible !!!

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post Jun 11 2011, 03:51 PM

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It's futile. Where there's a will, there's a way. Plus, they are using DNS filtering which is easily bypassed. The use of DNS filtering is also an issue to take note of. Parcticularly, it's the same method that hackers used to poison DNS cache but in a legal and controlled way. This raises the question on how ISPs in Malaysia are going to implement DNSSEC in the future. If wanna block, do it properly. *facepalm*. Don' take me wrongly. I do not condone the filtering. There are other methods to solve the issue as was done previously like flagging for file removal instead of blocking the whole site.
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post Jun 11 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(sohlican @ Jun 11 2011, 01:23 PM)
Bring prices of Originals DVDs, BluRays, CDs, Softwares, Games & ETC down!
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There's still the matter of variety.
Ever try buying a non blockbuster film locally?
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post Jun 11 2011, 03:55 PM

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DNSSEC jeopardize the control of DNS poisoning from ISP... smile.gif, it couldn't be complied.
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post Jun 11 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(eddie_lim @ Jun 11 2011, 03:55 PM)
DNSSEC jeopardize the control of DNS poisoning from ISP... smile.gif, it couldn't be complied.
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Yea. That's exactly what I was trying to convey. Heh. For those interested: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...copyrights.ars/
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post Jun 11 2011, 04:27 PM

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Oh great, Tmnut raping us in the anus, AGAIN. I bet they conspired with SKMM to block these sites so they could use cheaper and crappier infrastructure to support their current amount of users.

More blocked download sites = cheaper maintenance and more accounts to be sold by Tmnut.

Wanna guess how much these cronies idiots are profiting from this?

But can they implement it? Is there a way to bypass it? When is the deadline?

I can still access the sites listed on their stupid letter though.

Final word, are we doomed or is there still a shimmer of hope left?

Guys?
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post Jun 11 2011, 04:27 PM

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Is forbidden access means blocked? Anyone pls clarify.
TOR is a software created by the CIA to track fools like us. IRAN killed many dissidents a few yrs ago by tracking through TOR. Now IRAN is teaching Syria how to track down AND killed dissidents using TOR. TOR leaves behind onions that can be easily traced in your ISP and IP trails. Read it at http://cryptome.org.

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post Jun 11 2011, 04:37 PM

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Banning file hosting sites is like accusing post offices and banks of involving in illegal activities with PO Box/safe deposit box services.

Put it this simple way let's say Pos Malaysia offers a postbox service for the public.
Then some users illegally used it for distributing illegal items and sharing the location of box with others.

So who would you go after if you were the authorities?

1) Close down Pos Malaysia operation and cancel their operating licenses?

2) Go after the PO box subscriber and the parcel sender.

3) Go after the recipient. The ones who open the box (Might be framed or tricked into doing so to get into trouble)

If SKMM can directly put the blame on the file hosting company by banning access to them, then by all means our internet days looks gloomy in years to come.

They can one day even ban webmail accounts, cloud drives, cloud OS, whatever websites which they "believe" is a threat to them.

Many says we are adopting a firewall model similar to China's green dam.
To come to think of it, China did it for national security sake and they couldn't risk their big population going on strike.
It wasn't fueled by any religion, politics or interests and fear of getting influenced.

Our internet firewall model is modeled more towards those of Iran, Saudi Arabia and those Middle East nations.
Though their internet filtering mechanism is similar to China's it's not a surprise because China/US companies sold them the technology for the money.

Among examples of what those Middle countries do to their internet censorship policies are:

1)Hiring cybertroopers to seek out threats on blogs and public discussion forums.

2)Blocking access to western sites which they deemed or feel not in accordance to their ideologies

3)DPI- Deep packet inspection to monitor,jam and throttle services such as VoIP, file sharing, torrents, etc.

Read up about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...09068380136.htm

Iran's Internet Censorship Most Sophisticated in The World as reported by OpenNet Initiative.
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090619_ira..._sophisticated/

It's even far worst than any other countries even China which many think is already bad. It's almost totally influenced by politics, anti competition and dictatorship elements.

Given between China and Iran/Saudi Arabia,

Which model would you think Malaysia's internet is shaping to be and is based upon?
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post Jun 11 2011, 04:37 PM

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How sure are you guys that the ISPs will use IP protect or DNS filtering?

Cant they use something more exotic that we dont know about?

Btw, if they use IP protect or DNS filtering, can we still access these sites using IP only? (I know, dumb question, but I'm not an expert in this).


Added on June 11, 2011, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 11 2011, 04:37 PM)
Banning file hosting sites is like accusing post offices and banks of involving in illegal activities with PO Box/safe deposit box services.

Put it this simple way let's say Pos Malaysia offers a postbox service for the public.
Then some users illegally used it for distributing illegal items and sharing the location of box with others.

So who would you go after if you were the authorities?

1) Close down Pos Malaysia operation and cancel their operating licenses?

2) Go after the PO box subscriber and the parcel sender.

3) Go after the recipient. The ones who open the box (Might be framed or tricked into doing so to get into trouble)

If SKMM can directly put the blame on the file hosting company by banning access to them, then by all means our internet days looks gloomy in years to come.

They can one day even ban webmail accounts, cloud drives, cloud OS, whatever websites which they "believe" is a threat to them.

Many says we are adopting a firewall model similar to China's green dam.
To come to think of it, China did it for national security sake and they couldn't risk their big population going on strike.
It wasn't fueled by any religion, politics or interests and fear of getting influenced.

Our internet firewall model is modeled more towards those of Iran, Saudi Arabia and those Middle East nations.
Though their internet filtering mechanism is similar to China's it's not a surprise because China/US companies sold them the technology for the money.

Among examples of what those Middle countries do to their internet censorship policies are:

1)Hiring cybertroopers to seek out threats on blogs and public discussion forums.

2)Blocking access to western sites which they deemed or feel not in accordance to their ideologies

3)DPI- Deep packet inspection to monitor,jam and throttle services such as VoIP, file sharing, torrents, etc.

Read up about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...09068380136.htm

Iran's Internet Censorship Most Sophisticated in The World as reported by OpenNet Initiative.
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090619_ira..._sophisticated/

It's even far worst than any other countries even China which many think is already bad. It's almost totally influenced by politics, anti competition and dictatorship elements.

Given between China and Iran/Saudi Arabia,

Which model would you think Malaysia's internet is shaping to be and is based upon?
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It doesnt matter if its ethical or uncivilized, as long as the ISPs are stupid enough to comply/conspire with SKMM, they WILL DO IT.

This is Malaysia, apa tahi pun boleh, as long as you have the money, power and cronies connection.

Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?

This post has been edited by ChigurhTroll: Jun 11 2011, 04:41 PM
iipohbee
post Jun 11 2011, 04:58 PM

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It doesnt matter if its ethical or uncivilized, as long as the ISPs are stupid enough to comply/conspire with SKMM, they WILL DO IT.

This is Malaysia, apa tahi pun boleh, as long as you have the money, power and cronies connection.

Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?
Among all the isps in Malaysia you should already know which of the few would be directly comply and give direct insights with least efforts. smile.gif

Some already say that they are the same people as SKMM themselves.

Ah, they won't be charging the cheapest and being the most generous if it wasn't for this reason, would they?
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(ChigurhTroll @ Jun 11 2011, 04:37 PM)
Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?
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Not stupid, smart!
Smart to hide their real agendas behind copyright protection.
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:03 PM

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Not very happy about the blockages and FUP also. I torrent shows because Astro refuses to show certain shows (Top Gear, latest animes) or unavailable at all (Borat, Bruno, Zoolander). Local TV is crap and is something I watch while waiting at the KK.

Maybe the anti-cap people can go join the Bersih rally also. Not happy with Dear Leader Najib screwing us out of the one thing that makes living in Malaysia bearable.
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:23 PM

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Dear Comrade Najib,
Tens of Thousands of my fellow internet users & I will be voting you out of office in the next GE because you lied to us about not censoring the internet. May you burn in hell for all eternity for your lies.
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:26 PM

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In Saudi Arabia according to Wikipedia:

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Saudi Arabia directs all international Internet traffic through a proxy farm located in King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology. Content filter is implemented there, based on software by Secure Computing.[2] Additionally, a number of sites are blocked according to two lists maintained by the Internet Services Unit (ISU)[3]: one containing "immoral" (mostly pornographic) sites, the other based on directions from a security committee run by the Ministry of Interior (including sites critical of the Saudi government).

An interesting feature of this system is that citizens are encouraged to actively report "immoral" sites for blocking.

According to a study carried out in 2004 by the OpenNet Initiative: The most aggressive censorship focused on pornography, drug use, gambling, religious conversion of Muslims, and filtering circumvention tools.

In 2011, the Saudi government introduced new Internet rules and regulations that require all online newspapers and bloggers to obtain a special license from the Ministry of Culture and Information
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Individual freedom of speech and peaceful assembly are not respected by the government. Any speech or public demonstration that is deemed to be critical of the government, especially the royal family, or Islam, as defined by government, can lead to imprisonment, corporal punishment even execution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Saudi_Arabia

Dubai Internet City Connectivity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Internet_City

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While Dubai Internet City sells itself as a business-friendly environment with excellent low cost connectivity, the reality is one of a heavily censored internet with prices that are 5-10 times the price of connectivity in Europe or the USA. In addition to webpage censorship, it is speculated that a variety of popular social networking services are blocked.

The UAE proxy can be bypassed by various methods including by setting up a VPN to connect securely to a server in another country to reduce the amount of Internet censorship, with the advantage that UAE authorities cannot 'snoop' on the traffic.
This post has been edited by iipohbee: Jun 11 2011, 05:27 PM
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:45 PM

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I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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post Jun 11 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(gobstopper @ Jun 11 2011, 05:45 PM)
I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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Tried google DNS yet?

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
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post Jun 11 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(ChigurhTroll @ Jun 11 2011, 06:12 PM)
Tried google DNS yet?

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
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Tried google and opendns long before your mum was born... They IP blocked the web sites, the only way out is to vote Pakatan and see if they disable the blocking system. If not vote Anonoz Alliance to let us unlock Internet for you!
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post Jun 11 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(gobstopper @ Jun 11 2011, 05:45 PM)
I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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Must be blocking by IP addresses now.
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QUOTE(gobstopper @ Jun 11 2011, 05:45 PM)
I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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what is ur isp , TMnet? cry.gif

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