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post Jul 27 2011, 09:54 AM

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The existing floor by developer is not level.

As stated in main page, RM2580 for 40 staircase and 1100sf floor. I let the contractor to source. He has his own flooring people.

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 09:54 AM)
The existing floor by developer is not level.

As stated in main page, RM2580 for 40 staircase and 1100sf floor.  I let the contractor to source.  He has his own flooring people.
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Mine house too, the 1st floor level really bad.
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post Jul 27 2011, 10:23 AM

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So what is your plan?
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post Jul 27 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:23 AM)
So what is your plan?
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Parque already out, now ask my contractor level the floor. After all the other work done see got $$$ left. Maybe Lami, but if i can squeez enough maybe hardwood loh.

Then another question i ask, never get a straight answer. Do I do the build in cabinet before the flooring or do the flooring before build-in? Some say do flooring first, some say cabinet.. sigh.




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post Jul 27 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 27 2011, 10:29 AM)
Parque already out, now ask my contractor level the floor. After all the other work done see got $$$ left. Maybe Lami, but if i can squeez enough maybe hardwood loh.

Then another question i ask, never get a straight answer.  Do I do the build in cabinet before the flooring or do the flooring before build-in?  Some say do flooring first, some say cabinet.. sigh.
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if build cabinet first, you safe some $$ for flooring lor.
but usual practise is flooring first then only cabinet. who knows, you might change cabinets in future. and with the unfinished flooring, you would be limited to the exact same dimension and spot.

another example. if you intend to put a gigantic mirror in your bathroom, do you finish the wall tiling behind the mirror. some don't, some do. if you are tiling with expensive stones, it makes a difference in savings. say your mirror is 5'x4'. that's 20sf x rm30psf for stones = rm600.
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post Jul 27 2011, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 27 2011, 10:29 AM)
Parque already out, now ask my contractor level the floor. After all the other work done see got $$$ left. Maybe Lami, but if i can squeez enough maybe hardwood loh.

Then another question i ask, never get a straight answer.  Do I do the build in cabinet before the flooring or do the flooring before build-in?  Some say do flooring first, some say cabinet.. sigh.
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How much your contractor charge to remove parque and levelling?

According to floor depot, put the cabinet first. If cabinet on top of laminated floor, then no allowance for shrinkage and expansion of floor.
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 27 2011, 11:32 AM)
if build cabinet first, you safe some $$ for flooring lor.
but usual practise is flooring first then only cabinet. who knows, you might change cabinets in future. and with the unfinished flooring, you would be limited to the exact same dimension and spot.

another example. if you intend to put a gigantic mirror in your bathroom, do you finish the wall tiling behind the mirror. some don't, some do. if you are tiling with expensive stones, it makes a difference in savings. say your mirror is 5'x4'. that's 20sf x rm30psf for stones = rm600.
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If you can afford the RM30psf stones for your bathroom, what that extra RM600 behind the mirror? tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:59 AM)
How much your contractor charge to remove parque and levelling?

According to floor depot, put the cabinet first.  If cabinet on top of laminated floor, then no allowance for shrinkage and expansion of floor.
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the room have four sides. block one side still have 3 more side to go. or at least, still one more opposite direction to where the cabinet is.
furthermore, movement for timber flooring is like what? <3mm? the gap underneath the skirting should be more than sufficient.
and if your room does not have too much contrasting temperature (eg. setting sun direct and morning or evening full blast AC), your timber flooring should not pop out easily or 'move'.


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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 27 2011, 11:00 AM)
If you can afford the RM30psf stones for your bathroom, what that extra RM600 behind the mirror?  tongue.gif
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try doing that in a position of a hotel owner or developer.
multiplying that by say 300 rooms or 300units x 2bathrooms = 600units. nod.gif
another director gets a benz.

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 11:59 AM)
How much your contractor charge to remove parque and levelling?

According to floor depot, put the cabinet first.  If cabinet on top of laminated floor, then no allowance for shrinkage and expansion of floor.
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When the install the laminated flooring they will allow a gap between the edge of the flooring and the wall. This is to allow for expansion, etc.

Like someone mentioned, this will be more than sufficient for any expansion.


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try doing that in a position of a hotel owner or developer.
multiplying that by say 300 rooms or 300units x 2bathrooms = 600units.  nod.gif
another director gets a benz.
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If for big quantity, can always use a similar material that cost lesser, then at least can get a C class instead of the E class tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:59 AM)
How much your contractor charge to remove parque and levelling?

According to floor depot, put the cabinet first.  If cabinet on top of laminated floor, then no allowance for shrinkage and expansion of floor.
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He quote me included in the original cost for removing the parque.

Leveling he say told me add few hundred only woh (I will budget in 1K). Sigh i thought he original quote me include leveling. Ok lah no B&W, so this small amount i don't want to make noise since his "Ma Chai" help me spray the TrussGuard termite oil on the roof.


Added on July 27, 2011, 11:21 amMy plan if no money, use lami for few years, and change to solid when got money biggrin.gif


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post Jul 27 2011, 11:33 AM

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My contractor quote me RM3 psf for removing and levelling. Removing parque should be easy job. But levelling should cost more as there may be a lot of materials required to level the whole floor, not room by room. couple with higher floor. He told me he lost money charging RM2k for previous job.

My plan is use parque, if next time got 2nd phase only change the wardrop and flooring. Just to maintain the budget limit which already bloated.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 27 2011, 12:05 PM)
the room have four sides. block one side still have 3 more side to go. or at least, still one more opposite direction to where the cabinet is.
furthermore, movement for timber flooring is like what? <3mm? the gap underneath the skirting should be more than sufficient.
and if your room does not have too much contrasting temperature (eg. setting sun direct and morning or evening full blast AC), your timber flooring should not pop out easily or 'move'.


Added on July 27, 2011, 11:06 am

try doing that in a position of a hotel owner or developer.
multiplying that by say 300 rooms or 300units x 2bathrooms = 600units.  nod.gif
another director gets a benz.
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hey every1

FYI: laminated flooring, de core board itself is made by HDF (high density fiber board-tropical hardwood) which is 3mm allowance is a must at de edges is 2 allowed expansion at maximum 15%=0.23 - 0.4mm (per-panel) in between 13-15 days fr de core material due to de hot weather in Asia meanwhile for european is diff which is 3% (0.16mm is max-per panel) expansion ther4 de core material 4 them is made by pine wood (softer n more elastic-not advisable for Asia weather). how many panel tat required 4 ur area?????? important: laminate flooring will not expand until the packet is open up.

laminate skirting is at 13mmthk (older type) while 15mmthk (new type).

meaning tat floor depot is giving u an excellent advice! coz i did use laminate flooring alot 4 my project..
reminder kitchen cabinet must go 1st then only laminate flooring


Added on July 27, 2011, 11:58 am
QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 12:33 PM)
My contractor quote me RM3 psf for removing and levelling.  Removing parque should be easy job.  But levelling should cost more as there may be a lot of materials required to level the whole floor, not room by room. couple with higher floor.  He told me he lost money charging RM2k for previous job.

My plan is use parque, if next time got 2nd phase only change the wardrop and flooring.  Just to maintain the budget limit which already bloated.
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u dun need more material 4 ur levelling floor is only required "Floor Hardener" = 20kg for 80-100sqft depending de thickness u required,usually is 1.5 - 3mm thick.


Added on July 27, 2011, 11:59 am
QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 12:33 PM)
My contractor quote me RM3 psf for removing and levelling.  Removing parque should be easy job.  But levelling should cost more as there may be a lot of materials required to level the whole floor, not room by room. couple with higher floor.  He told me he lost money charging RM2k for previous job.

My plan is use parque, if next time got 2nd phase only change the wardrop and flooring.  Just to maintain the budget limit which already bloated.
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u dun need more material 4 ur levelling floor is only required "Floor Hardener" = 20kg for 80-100sqft depending de thickness u required,usually is 1.5 - 3mm thick.

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Where can buy the floor hardener? Maybe i buy few for my contractor to do, instead of him using normal cement.
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post Jul 27 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:54 AM)
The existing floor by developer is not level.

As stated in main page, RM2580 for 40 staircase and 1100sf floor.  I let the contractor to source.  He has his own flooring people.
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dis is 1 of my project..


Added on July 27, 2011, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 27 2011, 01:05 PM)
Where can buy the floor hardener? Maybe i buy few for my contractor to do, instead of him using normal cement.
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u can easily get it from hardware shop..ther is many kind of brand such as PENTENS,SIKA,SILICONE,FOSROC (top brand).

make sure ur contractor know how 2 use it..diff brand diff mixer + application for better outcome

FYI : floor hardener is 4 commercial use such as shop lot..meanwhile for residential & small area i suggest u use "self-levelling" or "mortar" 20kg.
mainly alot of them using mortar coz is cheap while self levelling is abit costly due 2 method of application is abit diff.



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post Jul 27 2011, 01:28 PM

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ok, like that use mortar loh
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post Jul 27 2011, 10:49 PM

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How the contractor do "levelling" I assume that this is to level the floor. - make the floor smooth and 0 degree flat. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Jul 25 2011, 07:09 PM)
Week 8

Painting and Lighting In Progress..........
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Hi,
what type of windows you are using? icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 28 2011, 10:11 PM

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hehe...nice right?

No...this is windows from Reliance Home, the black sticker still haven't been peer off yet.

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post Aug 6 2011, 11:51 PM

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Just would like to know where to get cheap bathroom tiles and also bathroom items like toilet wc and basin and etc.

Any recommendation?
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QUOTE(eteractive @ Aug 7 2011, 12:51 AM)
Just would like to know where to get cheap bathroom tiles and also bathroom items like toilet wc and basin and etc.

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You can get cheap tiles (those 3rd grade ones) at the tiles shops along Jalan Ipoh, etc. But you may regret later once you see the completed tiling work.
For bathrooms, the quantity is not much. In my opinion, better to get those better quality ones. Due to the quantity, it should not cost much. But the finish quality is worth the money biggrin.gif

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