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TSkingkong1
post Jun 2 2011, 10:59 PM, updated 15y ago

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We bought this (> 10 years old) 2.5 storey 22x75 house almost one and half year ago. But only collected the key 6 months ago.

Self Source
1) Permit Application (RM2,800)
2) new security door front (6x7) and back (3x7), including installation (RM3,688 from Top Security)
3) new 14' autogate system (RM6,888 from Perfect Living fair)
4) wet L shape base kitchen cabinet with acrylic door 11 + 10 (without table top) (RM4,380) - from university mate

The reno work includes (RM60k)
1) wet kitchen extension 11 x 22, with floor tiles and full height wall tiles @RM7 per sf tile (RM19,858)
2) extend living hall 6 x 22 (RM3,800)
3) remove the old tiles and lay new tiles for dry kitchen, toilet
4) remove and lay 2x2 tile (@RM15 per pc) in living hall 660sf (RM7,920)
5) 3 quarter covered the air well in 2nd floor
6) water-proofing for all toilets
7) repolish the parquet for stair case, 1st floor and 2nd floor (RM2,580)
8) remove and rebuild the front gate pillar and wall (RM1,500)
9) concrete table top with 2x2 tiles @RM30 (RM2,850)
10) Painting using ICI for the whole interior/exteror (RM7,800)
a)External – 1 layer selar, 1 layer undercoat and 2 layers ICI Weathershield
b)Internal – 1 layer selar, 1 layer undercoat and 2 layers ICI Pearl GLO

The contractor was recommended by my friend. He did my friend's sales manager (SM) house in SJ. After that, the SM neighour also renovate by him after comparing the his quote with others. Then neighbour's two sons in Setia Alam give some job to him.

His quote normally no much discount, as he told me he don't quote high and prepare room for discount.

M&E works includes (Estimates RM10k)
1) add lighting (RM45/pp), air cond(RM200/pp), plug(RM75/pp), astro, telephone and unifi points
2) upgrade to 3 phase (RM2,500)
2.1 application by TNB approved contractor range from RM600
2.2) relocate the TNB cable due to living hall extension RM1.4k
2.3) overhead connection RM300
2.4) Top Up deposit RM200
3) change the DB Box
4) Amour cable 12 for autogate, door bell

Lightings (RM8k allocated)

This wiring man is the contractor recommended person. I select him as I feel he is easy to negotiate and easier for contractor to work with

Id work involves
0) 4 3D drawings, M&E, Ceiling, Layout plan (RM4,950)
1) TV panel, wall paper
2) Divider
3) Master bedroom
4) Home office book shelf
5) plaster ceiling on ground floor, 1st floor and 2nd floor (@RM2.40 psf)
6) curtains and blinds
7) colour matching, tiles selection etc..

This designer was recommended by another friend of mine who let her do his Semi-D in Bukit Tinggi. He was also recommended by another friend which is also stays in the same area with him. My friend is moving in this earlier June.

Started to get the quotation for reno and ID since Feb 2011. Initially only allocate xxx for the above, but it bloated drastically...

Just started the reno work 3 days ago, after getting the PJ reno permit which taken about 5 weeks.

Will upload the pictures from time to time.. Schedule to move in early August.


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TSkingkong1
post Jun 3 2011, 06:09 PM

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post Jun 3 2011, 08:28 PM

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BTW, how many picture can i "upload" a day?

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post Jun 3 2011, 09:40 PM

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2x2 at tile price RM15, sorry typing error. He charge me RM12psf including removing and skirting. He use chinese tile specialist.
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post Jun 3 2011, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jun 3 2011, 09:46 PM)
WOW, so fast day 2 already lay brick hmm.gif  hmm.gif

mind to show some foundation pic below the brick wall.... or no support structure at all sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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This was day 1 which I missed.

There was footing and "net"

Will ask contractor to forward me the photo.


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post Jun 3 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(limch @ Jun 3 2011, 10:06 PM)
Haha! Your window is exactly like mine. You will have to stick with roman blinds. Relatively expensive lor! Anyway, your house will not be dark.

If you can, avoid 2" width window. Not cost effective to install curtain.

Others things you should consider :

Change all your piping.
Pull amour cable for auto gate.
Remember, remember, remember to ask the contractor to skim coat the wall.

I estimate you will need RM150k the very least. Good luck.
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Thanks for your advice, and welcomed others advice too, as I am novice to this renov thing. This is my first house and renovation. Not much time spent on the research though.

The window size is 2.5'x6'.
Will install full height curtain for living hall window.

Piping, the previous owner already changed using cooper type. So will maintain.

Amour cable 7 (RM4xx) was in my mind instead of amour 12(RM8xx), the door bell will use remote control type.

The wall looks quite smooth too, so no intention to do skim coat leh...and the whole living hall and dining hall at the TV panel wall will be using wall paper.


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Added on June 3, 2011, 10:26 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 3 2011, 11:08 AM)
kingkong1,

Which part of PJ? is it new property?
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hehe...weikee..this place is quite near to your auto workshop.

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post Jun 3 2011, 11:20 PM

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Added on June 3, 2011, 11:25 pm
QUOTE(limch @ Jun 3 2011, 10:29 PM)
Mine is 2'x6'. In order to be truthful to the design, I was recommended to use roman blinds.
[COLOR=blue]Will check[COLOR=blue]
Better change to ABS piping, copper piping will corrode over time. As a precaution, lay another main piping for stand by. You do not want to hack and install a new piping. That if you are to stay there for long haul.
[COLOR=blue]No budget for that[COLOR=blue]
It is because all the time proof precaution that caused my reno to ballooned 30-40%.

Nice wall paper will cost you a bomb. Labor is the key.
[COLOR=blue]Agree[COLOR=blue]
Don't you wanna change all the toilet bowls? I do not feel comfortable with "old" toilet bowl.
[COLOR=blue]No budget for toilet beautification, so sad[COLOR=blue]
Plan your electric socket well. At least one or two socket in 100sf. Easy for vacuuming.

The waste disposal alone will cost more than RM1500.
[COLOR=blue]Contractor included in his bill I believe[COLOR=blue]
Boy! There are many hidden costs.
[COLOR=blue]Totally agree....I made a mistake by asking contractor how much to extend living hall by 6'.  He told me RM3.8k.  Not knowing ending up x5 at least due to that changes.[COLOR=blue]
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Added on June 4, 2011, 12:02 amAnyone got any experience or ways how to move this TNB cable and meter 6 feet forward for the living hall extension?

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post Jun 6 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jun 4 2011, 09:04 AM)
your wireman will move TNB meter for you since you're getting 3-phase

consider getting an alarm if you haven't already
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my wireman or TNB wiremen? My wireman want to charge me RM800 for that, but worry if anything happen to him, or to neighbours' electrical appliances. Prefer TNB people to do so that they can cut off the electricity before extending the cable. Is this part of TNB job? Do I need to pay for this?

The house already armed with alarm system, just need to add more sensor points for the extension. Thanks.


Added on June 6, 2011, 12:06 am
QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 5 2011, 09:09 AM)
Hey, how you know where my auto workshop? Anyway, look like your house is nearly completing.  Mine is slow but i don't mind the speed as I got no urgency to move in.
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cefiro kaki.


Added on June 6, 2011, 12:11 am
QUOTE(Serofax @ Jun 5 2011, 07:00 PM)
Kingkong,

care to share your reno permit application process??

is that the standard price (RM2800) for all kitchen/backyard extension? also 5 wks is kinda long... if ask contractor settle, can do faster?
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Normal kitchen extension is very cheap, just buy the standard plan which only cost you about RM200, and the approval will be ready in 2 hours. I need to go through longer process and pay higher due to front extension which no standard plan available.

Yeah...5 weeks is long, normally should take within three weeks. The runner (inside people too) delay me in submission. The approval process normally takes 1 week after submission.


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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 5 2011, 09:09 PM)
hey, how come you didn't share out your cost?
i bolded the part that i'm interested to do. highly looking forward to your bathroom reno.
you seriously ain't considering engineer flooring/laminate timber flooring for your 1st and 2nd floor? polishing alone is around rm2.5k. a new one will be more expensive but not by a lot. think about it.
and pls consult your contractor on cost of adding a bathroom/powder room to the living hall extension please.
and my place is in pj too.
your contractor looks efficient.
mind sharing his contact?
thanks and great job by the way.
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Refer to the main page.
Will seriously consider the flooring.
The jobs still in progress, will only recommend the contractor if he is to my satisfaction.


Added on June 6, 2011, 12:16 am
QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 5 2011, 10:17 PM)
Thanks Kingkong.
My budget also around rm15 for 2x2 tiles. mind to share the tiles brand and shop u went?
The tiles not selected yet, may need to top up if more than RM15 is selected. Will arrange designer and contractor to select in Jalan Ipoh.

Went to Jalan Ipoh, supergloss from China RM9++, White Horse RM16.

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 6 2011, 10:10 AM)
KK1,

You active in ZTH also ah.

I plan to go check out tiles tomorrow, is Jalan Ipoh tiles price reasonable?  I plan to check out Japan Ipoh, and 222. Which one you think is cheaper?
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I think Jalan Ipoh is famous with tiles and reasonable price, same as Lights in Puchong.
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post Jun 7 2011, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Serofax @ Jun 6 2011, 11:31 PM)
ho ho , just checked with MPSJ today, no more ready made plans for sale. need to submit drawings...and a whole list of documents to prepare.

need neighbors concern even tho they havent move in! !@$*(!&#(*!^$@#...ridiculous. need to dig from developer now
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That is odd...Was available when I was there checking 6 weeks ago.


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QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Jun 7 2011, 12:01 AM)
Where in pushing got cheap lighting?
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Top ten and others? Not source yet.


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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 7 2011, 12:06 AM)
super ceramic in jalan ipoh and 222 have diff price?
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Anyone can comment? If price is the same, more convenient for me to source from 222.

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post Jun 8 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ReturnOfTheJedi @ Jun 7 2011, 12:38 AM)
Wow.. good starting..

2) install security door front and back (RM3,688)

what kind security door your install? what is it look a like?
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QUOTE(mmarklee188 @ Jun 8 2011, 02:08 PM)
KingKong1, can pm me the name and contact for the contractor and the 'part-time' ID person? Appreciate very much! Hope you can help! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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I just have a word with the contractor. He said will be busy after mine for 4 months as the next customer will be tear down and rebuilt a bungalow.

My ID person is not the part timer. Her shop is in Klang.

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post Jun 13 2011, 10:45 AM

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Not much progress, mainly hacking old tiles, and wiring...meanwhile finalising the tiles selection from Jalan Ipoh. Notice that the tiles price can vary quite a lot depending on the shop and the right person you ask, eg one of the whilte horse floor tiles 2x2 from RM10.90 to RM16. Transport is free if purchase >2k. No refund but can exchange for certain model.

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post Jun 13 2011, 12:59 PM

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The old lightings not remove yet, and new wiring is on the way. Yes, you are right, plaster ceiling will cover it later.
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:45 PM

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what do you mean by perimeter's limits?
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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 14 2011, 01:35 PM)
In technical terms it mean Building Set Back line... Layman terms up to maximum of the house limit...

To be honest bro, majority of the house renovation in Malaysia doesn't comply with Malaysia Building By-Law especially on the Fire Requirement... Based on the photo, I can see that the house are without backlane? correct me if i'm wrong.. This kind of design actually is pretty dangerous in the event of fire occurred....


Added on June 14, 2011, 1:36 pm

In this case your ceiling height will be lower... Anyhow just my opinion try to flush or same level with the beam soffit/base...
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The back wall of mine and back neighbour is about 10ft. It is within the MBPJ guideline.

Yeah...certain part of the ceiling is very low at 93in.
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 16 2011, 11:17 AM)
Door looks good and reasonable, can PM me details of the door supplier ? does your 3.6k inclusive installation for Front and Back door ?  rclxms.gif thanks
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refer to main page. Yes, includes installation.
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The main reason i change to this type of door is :
With the price of nyatoh door (with grill) and simple lock system for front, I can get this type of door for front and back door at the lower price too, without grill.


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Week 3

New autogate pillar
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Armour Cable 12
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Relocate TNB cable
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Water Proofing
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Preparing for Kitchen Top
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New Autogate pillar up
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Living Hall removing old tiles
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Kitchen wall tile in progress
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post Jun 20 2011, 09:26 PM

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Week 3

Living Hall Sliding Door Go Away
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Hacking Hacking....Ceiling...ceiling...why so low..
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 20 2011, 09:26 PM)
KK1,
How much is your relocation TNB meter cable? is it private or from TNB?
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Some charge RM800, some charge RM1,000. Applied through TNB waited and called > 1 week, can't wait. So just get from those approved TNB contractor.

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