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post May 29 2011, 02:25 AM

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Appreciate a quick comment from your with you obviously vast experience.

Is it correct to assume that when the 2.3.3 upgrade comes for the Malaysian users, those that have a rooted 2.3.2 will have to unroot and only then upgrade?

And that Gingerbreak v.1.2 won't be able to root 2.3.3 but would have to wait for developers at XDA to come out with a newer version that can?

Also, if you don't mind, in your FAQ No. 8. 'How do I access paid apps Market and how to I purchase apps ?' -- you mentioned the word 'paid apps'. My question is paid apps to mean that 'it is already paid (by someone) and you can access these paid apps for FREE' ? or that they are paid apps that can be purchased, just that without the MarketEnable widget, normally browsing Market (without faking other Telco, ie what MarketEnabler does), one cannot see these 'paid apps' listed?

To cut it short, meaning, when we browse Market we can see lots of apps (for purchase) anyway, when we use MarketEnabler to fake other Telcos, we ALSO can see lots of apps (for purchase) too - all in USD as 'normal' - so where is the difference? Am I missing something here?

Thanks a lot!
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post May 29 2011, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(ricstc @ May 29 2011, 02:25 AM)
Benny
Appreciate a quick comment from your with you obviously vast experience.

Is it correct to assume that when the 2.3.3 upgrade comes for the Malaysian users, those that have a rooted 2.3.2 will have to unroot and only then upgrade?

And that Gingerbreak v.1.2 won't be able to root 2.3.3 but would have to wait for developers at XDA to come out with a newer version that can?

Also, if you don't mind, in your FAQ No. 8. 'How do I access paid apps Market and how to I purchase apps ?' -- you mentioned the word 'paid apps'.  My question is paid apps to mean that 'it is already paid (by someone) and you can access these paid apps for FREE' ? or that they are paid apps that can be purchased, just that without the MarketEnable widget, normally browsing Market (without faking other Telco, ie what MarketEnabler does), one cannot see these 'paid apps' listed?

To cut it short, meaning, when we browse Market we can see lots of apps (for purchase) anyway, when we use MarketEnabler to fake other Telcos, we ALSO can see lots of apps (for purchase) too - all in USD as 'normal' - so where is the difference? Am I missing something here?

Thanks a lot! 
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juz helping out b4 uncle benny answered urs tongue.gif

when the 2.3.3 update is available to malaysian users, n i guess its Global ROM, u dun hav to unroot to hav the update.. the update itself will make a fresh install to ur phone thus all ur 3rd party apps including ur root n whatsoever will dissappear.. its like a new phone come out of the factory..

yes, Gingerbreak is not working on latest 2.3.3 update, at least by me, as im already with 2.3.3 HK Rom.. and if u c the Gingerbreak dev team, they r not quite active nowadays..

b4 this, all apps tht r showed on the market is free apps, meaning u cant access paid apps which is the one that u need to pay to get it, thus making it difficult for u to get for example the full version of the apps, but of course u need to pay.. u can c now o n the market there is a top paid apps section, b4 this thts not even exist on our market..

market enabler is to fake other telcos, n yes, it doesnt make much diff now tho as our market can display paid apps, BUT there r certain apps tht r not displayed on our market, n i dunno why (perhaps someone can answer tht?) such as GooGle Maps n other apps also.. i prefer to use market enabler eventho our current market is already improved as it will show all updates on my current apps on my phone..


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QUOTE(Ultima @ May 29 2011, 06:27 AM)
juz helping out b4 uncle benny answered urs tongue.gif

when the 2.3.3 update is available to malaysian users, n i guess its Global ROM, u dun hav to unroot to hav the update.. the update itself will make a fresh install to ur phone thus all ur 3rd party apps including ur root n whatsoever will dissappear.. its like a new phone come out of the factory..

yes, Gingerbreak is not working on latest 2.3.3 update, at least by me, as im already with 2.3.3 HK Rom.. and if u c the Gingerbreak dev team, they r not quite active nowadays..

b4 this, all apps tht r showed on the market is free apps, meaning u cant access paid apps which is the one that u need to pay to get it, thus making it difficult for u to get for example the full version of the apps, but of course u need to pay.. u can c now o n the market there is a top paid apps section, b4 this thts not even exist on our market..

market enabler is to fake other telcos, n yes, it doesnt make much diff now tho as our market can display paid apps, BUT there r certain apps tht r not displayed on our market, n i dunno why (perhaps someone can answer tht?) such as GooGle Maps n other apps also.. i prefer to use market enabler eventho our current market is already improved as it will show all updates on my current apps on my phone..
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Super thanks Ultima notworthy.gif

Are you with the HK ROM at 2.3.3 update rooted by other means other than the Gingerbreak method? (perhaps by unlocking the bootloader method? Does this work on the 2.3.3?)

And about the Market and Market Enabler comment - thanks. I think maybe someone should put what you had explained to update the FAQ (which I think do need some updates/clarification) otherwise many new members will start asking the same questions I did in confusion.

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post May 29 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ricstc @ May 29 2011, 02:25 AM)
Benny
Appreciate a quick comment from your with you obviously vast experience.

Is it correct to assume that when the 2.3.3 upgrade comes for the Malaysian users, those that have a rooted 2.3.2 will have to unroot and only then upgrade?

And that Gingerbreak v.1.2 won't be able to root 2.3.3 but would have to wait for developers at XDA to come out with a newer version that can?

Also, if you don't mind, in your FAQ No. 8. 'How do I access paid apps Market and how to I purchase apps ?' -- you mentioned the word 'paid apps'.  My question is paid apps to mean that 'it is already paid (by someone) and you can access these paid apps for FREE' ? or that they are paid apps that can be purchased, just that without the MarketEnable widget, normally browsing Market (without faking other Telco, ie what MarketEnabler does), one cannot see these 'paid apps' listed?

To cut it short, meaning, when we browse Market we can see lots of apps (for purchase) anyway, when we use MarketEnabler to fake other Telcos, we ALSO can see lots of apps (for purchase) too - all in USD as 'normal' - so where is the difference? Am I missing something here?

Thanks a lot! 
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YES, USUALLY not necessary so in order to receive firmware updates OTA - your phone must be unrooted. Secondly any default stock apps that is fremoved/or freeze must be restore back. If not, you will only see system is up to date. So I'd suggest that you unroot your phone if you know there is an update on its way

Gingerbreak 1.2 is dependent on devices ; it is not a one for all solution. Example, recently I use the generic 1.2 version to try to root my Acer Iconia A500 but was unsuccessful. After scouring the web, I found a modified version still name as Gingerbreak 1.2 and it could root my Tab. Yesterday I use it just to test and unroot - works well. And than I root my Iconia back successfully. So for 2.3.3 have to wait for solutions from those wonder geeks at XDA. I try GB 1.2 too on my Galaxy S II ( on 2.3.3 ) - but failed to get it to work

PAID apps is apps that you need to buy and pay for it. The apps MarketAcess or MarketEnabler just simulate a foreign telco on the phone. So with these, you can access all the paid apps. Buying the apps thro such faking telco methods is just a trick, your purchased apps are all still ORIGINAL and you will see all apps purchased in MyApps when you launched Market. However to update these purchased apps, you might need to fake telco again to update or redownload
There are apps that is so called BlackMarket which shows paid apps but you download it for free. I have always advised users to stay away from BalckMarket as this is the worst and most dangerous source of pirated apps. If you see your phone random rebooting, hanging-freezing etc just blame yourself for using such apps from Blackmarket as no one really knows how these apps affect the system and how it interacts with other similar cracked apps. Android apps are cheap US99 sen to average US3 ghenerally - support the developer and buy the apps. And if one can afford a RM2.0 to RM2.5K phone, I am sure one can afford to pay few ringgit for the app. Whether one like it or not, using such pirated apps is similar to stealing other people intellectual property. No matter what arguments you have, it is plain stealing and one is no better than any other petty thief

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QUOTE(ricstc @ May 29 2011, 10:30 AM)
Super thanks Ultima  notworthy.gif

Are you with the HK ROM at 2.3.3 update rooted by other means other than the Gingerbreak method? (perhaps by unlocking the bootloader method? Does this work on the 2.3.3?)

And about the Market and Market Enabler comment - thanks. I think maybe someone should put what you had explained to update the FAQ (which I think do need some updates/clarification) otherwise many new members will start asking the same questions I did in confusion.

Thanks again  thumbup.gif
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im on 2.3.3 HK ROM, testing it while waiting for 2.3.3 Global Rom.. mine is originally on global rom tho.. n yes, mine is rooted but not through gingerbreak, my bootloader is unlocked so im using the fastboot method, which requires u to unlock ur bootloader.. honestly, if u juz wanna root n nothing else, juz wait for some apps similar to gingerbreak tht can root ur device.. unlocking the bootloader comes with a price as u cant update ur phone thru SEUS or pc companion, also it may void ur warranty..
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QUOTE(benny888 @ May 29 2011, 10:38 AM)
- support the developer and buy the apps. And if one can afford a RM2.0 to RM2.5K phone, I am sure one can afford to pay few ringgit for the app. Whether one like it or not, using such pirated apps is similar to stealing other people intellectual property. No matter what arguments you have, it is plain stealing and one is no better than any other petty thief
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Not everybody who bought a 2k phone can really afford it. As we all know, costs of essential items is very high and our economy is in bad shape.
Usually (not all) youngsters or immature ppl (mainly geeks/dorks) are totally taken by the marketing campaigns by phone companies e.g. Dual proc, samoled plus/super/etc.
Then either they use up almost all their savings or take up installment plans which further add to their debts.

So how can these ppl afford paid apps? End up eating white bread and plain water evryday.

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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ May 29 2011, 12:22 PM)
Not everybody who bought a 2k phone can really afford it. As we all know, costs of essential items is very high and our economy is in bad shape.
Usually (not all) youngsters or immature ppl  (mainly geeks/dorks) are  totally taken by the marketing campaigns by phone companies e.g. Dual proc, samoled plus/super/etc.
Then either they use up almost all their savings or take up installment plans which further add to their debts.

So how can these ppl afford paid apps? End up eating white bread and plain water evryday.
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So you are giving a good reason to use pirated apps. There are always reasons ....
I can understand that cannot afford if it is few hundred ringgit - it is just mere few ringgit
It is a question of whether one wants to be honest an=bout it or continue to use such
Seriously if one is not in a affordable position, buy a RM 500 android not a RM2-2.5k phone. Geez - unbelievable. It is similar to those who go and buy flashy cars and paying through their nose and every month endup empty and stretching their credit cards. If one cannot afford, just don't join the crowd. Join the crowd and end up a dishonest way of living's one life - geez no comments
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QUOTE(benny888 @ May 29 2011, 12:29 PM)
So you are giving a good reason to use pirated apps. There are always reasons ....
I can understand that cannot afford if it is few hundred ringgit - it is just mere few ringgit
It is a question of whether one wants to be honest an=bout it or continue to use such
Seriously if one is not in a affordable position, buy a RM 500 android not a RM2-2.5k phone. Geez - unbelievable. It is similar to those who go and buy flashy cars and paying through their nose and every month endup empty and stretching their credit cards. If one cannot afford, just don't join the crowd. Join the crowd and end up a dishonest way of living's one life - geez no comments
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i do agree with...
i see lot of lower income worker ( below 1.5k) paying lot of money to get middle/high end phone..
and at the end, cant afford to maintain like buying app, phone no credit.. etc

i dont say that this people cant buy but with this low income, its sure will affect your other spending capabiliy..
unless you already keep the money for the couple of month and target it.. thats different due you know what you are doing


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QUOTE(benny888 @ May 29 2011, 12:29 PM)
So you are giving a good reason to use pirated apps. There are always reasons ....
I can understand that cannot afford if it is few hundred ringgit - it is just mere few ringgit
It is a question of whether one wants to be honest an=bout it or continue to use such
Seriously if one is not in a affordable position, buy a RM 500 android not a RM2-2.5k phone. Geez - unbelievable. It is similar to those who go and buy flashy cars and paying through their nose and every month endup empty and stretching their credit cards. If one cannot afford, just don't join the crowd. Join the crowd and end up a dishonest way of living's one life - geez no comments
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I'm not making up excuses or justifying theft. But that is exactly the real situation.
Together u shld also consider the majority of ppl who buy the sub rm1000 android phones.

A few ringgit may mean difference btwn a full stomach n a starving one.

Maybe u are already retired and afford ur hobby. Congrats to you. But there are many young ppl who are full of debts.

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Geez, why are u talking about cars when we are talking about phones here la wei.
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a quickie... is the 2.3.3 update available in Malaysia yet?
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aiyah no need argue la ..
its all about how ppl think if its worth or value to pay or not

for me i just pay to gameloft ..

for car .. if ppl buy a car above 100k .. of coz they will go back to the ori factory to service, they agree with the value .. while proton user choose to service some other place coz they think proton service center charge too much ..

for dishonest in life .. there are many hole and grey area in life ..

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i am a sony xperia arc user now! the only thing i'm not satisfied with is maxis. i bought the phone on friday and they still haven't registered my number yet. went to maxis just now and said will be authorized by 3 pm... maxis is so disappointing.
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QUOTE(archdookie @ May 29 2011, 02:13 PM)
i am a sony xperia arc user now! the only thing i'm not satisfied with is maxis. i bought the phone on friday and they still haven't registered my number yet. went to maxis just now and said will be authorized by 3 pm... maxis is so disappointing.
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hey just wondering... anyone got their Navigation working? Mine seems to be stuck at seeing if this service is available
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too bad... still no update in malaysia... so bad.. i checking each hours... zzzz
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QUOTE(kerazul @ May 29 2011, 07:02 PM)
hey just wondering... anyone got their Navigation working? Mine seems to be stuck at seeing if this service is available
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By default, navigation is not working on any country except on USA..

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