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post May 23 2011, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 23 2011, 07:32 PM)
This coming weekend I have a wedding to shoot and only equipped with D7000 kit set. Should I get the SB900 flashgun to cover the day up? I'm still wondering how would the flashgun enhance the photos as many said flashgun will do wonders.

If I'm opt to get the flashgun, any additional accessories I should consider? Beside this coming weekend, next month I will also have some wedding to shoot.
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If I have SB900, I can machine gun my camera all the way when shooting kissing scenes, not a single frame missed. brows.gif

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post May 23 2011, 08:48 PM

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Guys, can you all help me check whether my pictures is sharp or not.

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post May 23 2011, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 23 2011, 07:54 PM)
ohh ur in trouble tongue.gif
helps u get sharper shots if used correctly.
sb700 also is enough.
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Yeah... kinda rush to get one at this time actually... sweat.gif

But I'm really curious how far it can bring my photos go with kit lens... of course my skills and techniques count too. I'm sure I'm not there yet sad.gif

QUOTE(four_add @ May 23 2011, 08:01 PM)
try prime 50mm 1.8/1.4 ?
it should be good for potrait and good for low light (indoors)
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Yeah... but still I'll need to cover up wide angle too which is then flash sounds wiser since I have got kit lens.

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ May 23 2011, 08:30 PM)
If I have SB900, I can machine gun my camera all the way when shooting kissing scenes, not a single frame missed. brows.gif
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How much would the SB900 cost now? unsure.gif
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post May 23 2011, 11:05 PM

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Hi ,

Any recommend what tripod I can buy with my budget below rm 150 ?

Using d7000 with 105 kit lens , 50mm and 35mm here .

Thanks .

1st option is might be getting velbon cx-888 cost me rm 170 ( Seremban )


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post May 23 2011, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 23 2011, 07:32 PM)
This coming weekend I have a wedding to shoot and only equipped with D7000 kit set. Should I get the SB900 flashgun to cover the day up? I'm still wondering how would the flashgun enhance the photos as many said flashgun will do wonders.

If I'm opt to get the flashgun, any additional accessories I should consider? Beside this coming weekend, next month I will also have some wedding to shoot.
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if I were you I will buy a decent 17-50 2.8 so I can survive w/ ambient light only. plus d7k ISO performance is. excellent! I like it tongue.gif
and get a decent flash like sb-600 or sb-800.
this case provided you have enough budget.
anyway get 35mm 1.8 might be a great idea as well. smile.gif
a lot of people use that for their 1st paid shoot.

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: May 23 2011, 11:14 PM
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post May 23 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 23 2011, 11:06 PM)
if I were you I will buy a decent 17-50 2.8 so I can survive w/ ambient light only.
and get a decent flash like sb-600 or sb-800.
this case provided you have enough budget.
anyway get 35mm 1.8 might be a great idea as well. smile.gif
a lot of people use that for their 1st paid shoot.
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I rather not risk it and get the flashgun. Flashgun can really make a difference.
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post May 23 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ May 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
I rather not risk it and get the flashgun. Flashgun can really make a difference.
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photography with flashgun is not the same like normal photography with ambient light. it takes some times for one to learn flash usage properly.
if the wedding is coming in this very soon I doubt one can learn using their flash gun properly by that time.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 23 2011, 11:15 PM)
photography with flashgun is not the same like normal photography with ambient light. it takes some times for one to learn flash usage properly.
if the wedding is coming in this very soon I doubt one can learn using their flash gun properly by that time.
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lol if you use manual like me then yeah it will be different but I did it :/ sb900? you will be on TTL don't have to worry on anything other than get a good picture laugh.gif

anyway ambient light only works if theres actually decent light. As far my experience goes, those place are poor lit and the light weren't helping either. So getting a flashgun would be a good thing rather than big aperture.

flash you don't have to worry on how ambient light to fall of to your subject. You can work easily. If your hoping for ambient light, you need to know how the light is going to light up your subject.
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post May 23 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ May 23 2011, 11:23 PM)
lol if you use manual like me then yeah it will be different but I did it :/ sb900? you will be on TTL don't have to worry on anything other than get a good picture  laugh.gif

anyway ambient light only works if theres actually decent light. As far my experience goes, those place are poor lit and the light weren't helping either. So getting a flashgun would be a good thing rather than big aperture.
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quite agree with this, even my 35mm f1.8 also got noise in c2age that time...maybe my body really too old hmm.gif
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unless u got high iso like D3s, else getting big aperture is not enough.
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ May 23 2011, 11:27 PM)
unless u got high iso like D3s, else getting big aperture is not enough.
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even D700 also not enough?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 23 2011, 11:44 PM)
even D700 also not enough?
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lol d700 also use flashgun and even d3s in an event. If you use ambient light you will eventually get fugly lighting which is rather not good for the client and your reputation but provided that you may direct them as you please and also provided that you know where the light coming from and how it would fall off nicely on the couple then shoot go for it laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ May 23 2011, 11:49 PM)
lol d700 also use flashgun and even d3s in an event. If you use ambient light you will eventually get fugly lighting which is rather not good for the client and your reputation but provided that you may direct them as you please and also provided that you know where the light coming from and how it would fall off nicely on the couple then shoot go for it laugh.gif
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but then i shoot for fun XD... saving money for now starting august after i clear debt from my father in this year and some figure as well XD...then try hardcore saving see before company trip can get a new body or not haha. sweat.gif
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post May 24 2011, 12:00 AM

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D90 + 50mm f/1.8D
1/160 sec
f/3.2
ISO 1000
without flash unit - regretted very much for not lending one, since I don't own one.

Hence, vearn27, I'd strongly suggest you to get a flash unit and learn it quick in time for the event. You might not be an expert within a day, but it can certainly be very helpful especially when you're counting on your kit lens to deliver. You still have a few days to practise and get a little used to it; or maybe get someone experienced to give you a crash course smile.gif
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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ May 23 2011, 08:48 PM)
Guys, can you all help me check whether my pictures is sharp or not.

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is my photos ok ah guys cry.gif
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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ May 24 2011, 12:02 AM)
is my photos ok ah guys  cry.gif
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i duno , looks okay for me since i m not pixel peeper unsure.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 23 2011, 07:32 PM)
This coming weekend I have a wedding to shoot and only equipped with D7000 kit set. Should I get the SB900 flashgun to cover the day up? I'm still wondering how would the flashgun enhance the photos as many said flashgun will do wonders.

If I'm opt to get the flashgun, any additional accessories I should consider? Beside this coming weekend, next month I will also have some wedding to shoot.
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Chinese Wedding?
Flash gun is highly recommended. It doesn't matter if you have prime with f/1.4, most probably you're not going to use wide aperture and bokeh is pretty much useless unless for specific special shots. You need to capture movement, moments, you need fast shutter speed. When they're playing those games, you can't afford to miss those moments or blur shots caused by slow shutter. Indoors, depending on the house,etc it might be crowded and the lightings might also be poor, shooting group photo, you're not going to risk using big aperture to compensate for the light, you need to get more in focus and people don't have time to wait for you to adjust here and there and keep reviewing your photo and re-take, it's better to be more assured that you got the shots.

Then the more challenging part, the wedding reception? Depending on the location, the lightings can go even worst especially inside the ballroom and the ceilings may be very high. The important moment, the couple walk-in, the lights will be off and you don't have much time to take the as many shots as you can; You don'y really have time to check and review your photo as the couple will be walking in. You wouldn't want to ruin these important moments..... They don't stop for your to take photo and adjust your camera settings, plus, the spotlights might mess with your photo...

People may say the D7000 have great ISO, but that doesn't mean you don't need flash and doesn't mean there will be low noise, you might be using ISO above 1000 easily for indoors even will wide aperture... will smaller aperture, easily it will go up to ISO 3200 or even higher. Under expose and your images will be filled with noise/grain that is worst than higher ISO.
And without the help of flash to fill in the shadows, those spotlights, etc will cause your subject to have shadow on their faces, etc.

Just my cheap 2 shutter clicks.


QUOTE(ComradeZ @ May 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
I rather not risk it and get the flashgun. Flashgun can really make a difference.
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Very true indeed.



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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 23 2011, 11:06 PM)
if I were you I will buy a decent 17-50 2.8 so I can survive w/ ambient light only. plus d7k ISO performance is. excellent! I like it tongue.gif
and get a decent flash like sb-600 or sb-800.
this case provided you have enough budget.
anyway get 35mm 1.8 might be a great idea as well. smile.gif
a lot of people use that for their 1st paid shoot.
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i die if i got no flash for wedding. wanna know why? go and be the OP for the wedding and u know what i mean.

i am a photographer with no photography basic and just learn from experience. feel it first then u know


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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ May 24 2011, 12:02 AM)
is my photos ok ah guys  cry.gif
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assume u using all the same lens. for that kinda of lens, it is ok.

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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ May 24 2011, 12:02 AM)
is my photos ok ah guys  cry.gif
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Chillax bro lol. First things first: kindly add spoiler tags to the images that you quote. It's rather annoying to see repetition of images.

I'm guessing the images were fresh from your camera. A little bit of post-processing to enhance the images would be nice. For example, the colour of the flower in the third image could easily be enhanced.

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Though your flower looks a bit OOF there. smile.gif

And a little to add on the last image (with the danger sign on the fence): I thought it'd look more interesting to include more of the background building. That, of course, is my humble opinion. Keep posting smile.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 24 2011, 12:11 AM)
Chinese Wedding?
Flash gun is highly recommended. It doesn't matter if you have prime with f/1.4, most probably you're not going to use wide aperture and bokeh is pretty much useless unless for specific special shots. You need to capture movement, moments, you need fast shutter speed. When they're playing those games, you can't afford to miss those moments or blur shots caused by slow shutter. Indoors, depending on the house,etc it might be crowded and the lightings might also be poor, shooting group photo, you're not going to risk using big aperture to compensate for the light, you need to get more in focus and people don't have time to wait for you to adjust here and there and keep reviewing your photo and re-take, it's better to be more assured that you got the shots.

Then the more challenging part, the wedding reception? Depending on the location, the lightings can go even worst especially inside the ballroom and the ceilings may be very high. The important moment, the couple walk-in, the lights will be off and you don't have much time to take the as many shots as you can; You don'y really have time to check and review your photo as the couple will be walking in. You wouldn't want to ruin these important moments..... They don't stop for your to take photo and adjust your camera settings, plus, the spotlights might mess with your photo...

People may say the D7000 have great ISO, but that doesn't mean you don't need flash and doesn't mean there will be low noise, you might be using ISO above 1000 easily for indoors even will wide aperture... will smaller aperture, easily it will go up to ISO 3200 or even higher. Under expose and your images will be filled with noise/grain that is worst than higher ISO.
And without the help of flash to fill in the shadows, those spotlights, etc will cause your subject to have shadow on their faces, etc.

Just my cheap 2 shutter clicks.
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I second that; and might I add, WB counts too. smile.gif

This post has been edited by stsh90: May 24 2011, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ May 24 2011, 12:12 AM)
i die if i got no flash for wedding. wanna know why? go and be the OP for the wedding and u know what i mean.

i am a photographer with no photography basic and just learn from experience. feel it first then u know
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Totally agree! No need to be OP for Wedding to feel it, actually any event will do, not necessary Wedding. Lighting is very important in photography, it makes a whole lots of difference, and there's also creative lightings.

Even basic use of flash gun (bounce celing), makes a big difference already. One can slowly move on later, there's so much to learn on flash photography.


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