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post Apr 23 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:29 PM)
me?? for the np7280? well my friend got it from xotic pc around 3800USD...i want to spend around 3500USD to a 100 more or less, but i am waiting to see, how the m18x would act in market and how will people say about it, becuz its first time producing, once to buy is a bit risky, specially if its a Desktop Replacemnt due to many issue such as cooling and driver supports and BIOS and so on.... . so far i am interested in np7280 since i worked with it, which is for my friend, and it really satisfied me, i would prefer performance to a fleshy and eye cath desing generally and build quality.
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paying 3500USD for a laptop and seldom bring outside, what a waste. i use RM3000 can get double performance for the laptpo u getting.
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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:32 PM)
paying 3500USD for a laptop and seldom bring outside, what a waste. i use RM3000 can get double performance for the laptpo u getting.
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i cant really get a clue of your post...of course as i mentioned DTRs are not for carrying outside...and you WOULD SPEND only shocking.gif 3000RM shocking.gif on WHICH LAPTOP to get double-performance of a i7 960 and Dual GPU power? lol or i cant get a clue of your post...
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i got a fren bought a alienware pc just for worksheets ....!!!
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QUOTE(Heroez @ Apr 23 2011, 05:51 PM)
i got a fren bought a alienware pc just for worksheets ....!!!
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Haha some people just want the style, brand and "fame" laugh.gif
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post Apr 23 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:50 PM)
i cant really get a clue of your post...of course as i mentioned DTRs are not for carrying outside...and you WOULD SPEND only  shocking.gif  3000RM  shocking.gif on WHICH LAPTOP to get double-performance  of a i7 960 and Dual GPU power? lol or i cant get a clue of your post...
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yup, i can spend RM3000 to build a desktop performance double of ur laptop. Core i7 2500k i clocked to 4.5ghz with stock cooling. with GTX580. might not be double performance, vantage comfirm over 30k, if pay a little bit more for better mobo can clock to higher rate, where ur laptop can perform the most at 23k for vantage.
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post Apr 23 2011, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 02:00 AM)
i dun use my laptop outside + people who would buy something like m18x and np7280 which are between 5 to 6.2 kg know that these are Desktop replacement and they dun need to really carry them outside ! so thats y i had m11x, but i replace it with macbook air biggrin.gif  ! lol haha, just i get Desktop Replacement because i need the power and the rest ! ive got my own macbook air and ipad for carry outside .... my friend using two PSU of 330W and i7 970, as far as i know there is no problem for shutting down becuz of bridge, u can make sure by asking people who own it in Owner lounge of np7280 at notebookreview .... i wil get 6970m CF not GTX485m SLI...its much of money becuz of only 7% increase in benchmarks which are quiet useless for me ! and there are no issues since sager produced second PSU with bridge for 6970m CF and GTX485m SLI if u know.... and the point would be for me having m18x is good but i dun care about the beauty anymore actually cuz i used to alienware design and fleshy lights but i never satisfyed with the perfermence that i wished, i think that would reached by having sager and a Desktop CPU which can USE ALL THE POWER OF A CROSSFIRE AND SLI SCALE....i think i would prefer m18x with only 2920XM not less...but i am not sure about the build quality of m18x since its their first time producing m18x...so i would wait first, but for sure i go for np7280...mabey later i can buy a m18x.
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what spec u were using???
using two PSU?
for my own experience i played metro 2033 with i7 970 and GTX485mSLI plus 12gb ram....i set the res at 1080 and DX11 and very high without AA and i had around 30 to 38 frame, and i really played about an hour becuz i was enjoying the brilliant graphics, i didnt experience any lag or heat issue and turning off.....
can u explaine me more?
even at notebookreview owner lunge no one had problem of lag of sudden power trips. except before producing second PSU by sager.
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Mine was 980x n sli 480ms. Now the reason why aw didn't go for desktop i7s are becos they are immensely innifficient in laptops. Thus they went for a processor the SB. By giving lower power consuming processor, it would mean that the gpus have a lower risk of throttling. Tht is where my hexacore n dual 480s come in conflict. Both of them, power hungry and constantly fighting for more power. Therefore more power was sucked. The 300w psu they provided couldn't handle the demanding so it cuts itself out from the wall causing it to trip. Becos of this problem, they have to use a 330w psu. Even tht can't solve the problem. They have use a dual socket. Yes im always at nbr checking. Even speedy Gonzalez thought it was it was inefficient, tht is why he sold his off. I'm not telling u not buy but just telling don't expect too much from it. Afterall, its powers had been limited due to the power cap.

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post Apr 23 2011, 06:12 PM

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whats the price for m18x ?
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post Apr 23 2011, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Apr 23 2011, 05:58 PM)
yup, i can spend RM3000 to build a desktop performance double of ur laptop. Core i7 2500k i clocked to 4.5ghz with stock cooling. with GTX580. might not be double performance, vantage comfirm over 30k, if pay a little bit more for better mobo can clock to higher rate, where ur laptop can perform the most at 23k for vantage.
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i thought you are talking about a laptop...well in that case is not fair to compare a high-end laptop Raio-Price-Bulid to a desktop, desktop can be 3000 to over ply 15K with same spec that u are talking, yes it depends on person, i am international student and i dun prefer having desktop, in my own country my brother having spec of i7 990EX and dual GTX 480 perhpas around 6000RM ... lol but i was talking about laptop, what i tried to say it was i am not satisfied with alienware specifications !!! for example offering a single 460m in m17x is a total waste of buy, not enough power...they better use at least 480m ....

QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Apr 23 2011, 06:11 PM)
Mine was 980x n sli 480ms. Now the reason why aw didn't go for desktop i7s are becos they are immensely innifficient in laptops. Thus they went for a processor the SB. By giving lower power consuming processor, it would mean that the gpus have a lower risk of throttling. Tht is where my hexacore n dual 480s come in conflict. Both of them, power hungry and constantly fighting for more power. Therefore more power was sucked. The 300w psu they provided couldn't handle the demanding so it cuts itself out from the wall causing it to trip.
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yes its ture friend, everybody almost had that problem, but nowadays with having the newest BIOS, i guess before supporting of 6970m BIOS, temp are running cool + power consumption with recommended additional PSU and convertor box for 485m SLI and 6970m CF users, there are no problem ! mabey you could wait, cuz as i mentioned i did try with my friend's np7280 and there wasnt any problem with having 600WAT !!!!!!!! even for 470m SLI users may be require of they wish OVERCLOKING and pushing their np7280 limitations to further more of what it acts. personally as far as i asked people who are having SLI and CF in np7280 and my own experiment there are no problem, BUT for sure against to upcoming m18x ... for having a powerhouse np7280 you may require to sacrifice beauty and weight and HUGE MONSTERICAL PSUs and power adapter to a huge better performance.
about not being efficient of core i7 desktops at laptops i do agree...but i guess they would use more power of a SLI scale and CF scale of powerful cards like 6970 and gtx 485 over a Mobility Sandy-Bridge, how much i am not sure...wait to c the m18x results and bechmarks soon at Notebookcheck !
QUOTE(Heroez @ Apr 23 2011, 06:12 PM)
whats the price for m18x ?
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should be something around 1000RM for a good Config...low or less, it would start at 2000USD something for sure, add on up to 3000USD i guess for having nice specs

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 06:25 PM)
i thought you are talking about a laptop...well in that case is not fair to compare a high-end laptop Raio-Price-Bulid to a desktop, desktop can be 3000 to over ply 15K with same spec that u are talking, yes it depends on person, i am international student and i dun prefer having desktop, in my own country my brother having spec of i7 990EX and dual GTX 480 perhpas around 6000RM ... lol but i was talking about laptop, what i tried to say it was i am not satisfied with alienware specifications !!! for example offering a single 460m in m17x is a total waste of buy, not enough power...they better use at least 480m ....
yes its ture friend, everybody almost had that problem, but nowadays with having the newest BIOS, i guess before supporting of 6970m BIOS, temp are running cool + power consumption with recommended additional PSU and convertor box for 485m SLI and 6970m CF users, there are no problem ! mabey you could wait, cuz as i mentioned i did try with my friend's np7280 and there wasnt any problem with having 600WAT !!!!!!!! even for 470m SLI users may be require of they wish OVERCLOKING and pushing their np7280 limitations to further more of what it acts. personally as far as i asked people who are having SLI and CF in np7280 and my own experiment there are no problem, BUT for sure against to upcoming m18x ... for having a powerhouse np7280 you may require to sacrifice beauty and weight and HUGE MONSTERICAL PSUs and power adapter to a huge better performance.
about not being efficient of core i7 desktops at laptops i do agree...but i guess they would use more power of a SLI scale and CF scale of powerful cards like 6970 and gtx 485 over a Mobility Sandy-Bridge, how much i am not sure...wait to c the m18x results and bechmarks soon at Notebookcheck !

should be something around 1000RM for a good Config...low or less, it would start at 2000USD something for sure, add on up to 3000USD i guess for having nice specs
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nice ncie, BTW what i know m18x would started with RM8999 if started in malaysia. some how last time i spent almost 16k for a laptop, i think too waste d. hahaha
thats y i go for desktop and a laptop and a bunch or Alienware watching me using my desktop. haha
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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 06:25 PM)
should be something around 1000RM for a good Config...low or less, it would start at 2000USD something for sure, add on up to 3000USD i guess for having nice specs
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Sorry... Say what?? I don't understand...

Based on price analysis, I believed start should be RM 8,499 to 8,999 for basic specs
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Apr 23 2011, 09:55 PM)
Sorry... Say what??  I don't understand...

Based on price analysis, I believed start should be RM 8,499 to 8,999 for basic specs
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yes my mistake, i was meaning to say 10000RM for a good spec ! biggrin.gif up to 10K plus i guess with choosing SSDs and 2920XM and so on Dual GPUs.
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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 10:00 PM)
yes my mistake, i was meaning to say 10000RM for a good spec ! biggrin.gif up to 10K plus i guess with choosing SSDs and 2920XM and so on Dual GPUs.
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Well, M17X R3 with max specs is RM 11k plus...
So I expect 2.5k extra for i7 2920XM and CF 6970
Easily 14k to 15k
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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 03:25 AM)

about not being efficient of core i7 desktops at laptops i do agree...but i guess they would use more power of a SLI scale and CF scale of powerful cards like 6970 and gtx 485 over a Mobility Sandy-Bridge, how much i am not sure...wait to c the m18x results and bechmarks soon at Notebookcheck !

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that brings back the answer. that is why the idea for an dsktp i7 on AW is repudiated.

i dont mind the x7200. i would love to reown the relaunch version. but financial needs puts me in a barrier between m18x and x7200.

and due to the fact the m18x can last 2 hrs or more than x7200. plus the and more efficient SB and stbr GTX485M for m18x makes it better as it scales better than other M quad core processor or maybe even a desktop processor.
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QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Apr 24 2011, 12:55 AM)
that brings back the answer. that is why the idea for an dsktp i7 on AW is repudiated.

i dont mind the x7200. i would love to reown the relaunch version. but financial needs puts me in a barrier between m18x and x7200.

and due to the fact the m18x can last 2 hrs or more than x7200. plus the and more efficient SB and stbr GTX485M for m18x makes it better as it scales better than other M quad core processor or maybe even a desktop processor.
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but even though ther are not that efficient, using core i7 desktops in these laptops....always in notebookcheck benchmarks, they have the MAX Performance compare to any other laptops.

yes financial i do agreeeee.....both are expensive machines if we really want to customize something like a real BEAST/

regarding of your last line, it think with choosing a 6970m CF we can have long battery in x7200 due to turning of CF scale and switch to VPU graphic core, its one of the features of 6970m as well, like the M17X but i am not sure...YEs but as i mentioned with even using 2920XM i dun think so it will be possible to beat the score benchmarks of a GTX45mSLI and 6970m CF of a sager laptop as i mentioned due to having almost 600WAT power adapters for them plus a desktop CPU would use ALL THE POTENTIAL of these sli and CF configuration... . this would be for sure.
GTX485m SLI will not be available for m18x i guess...even 6970m CF there is doubts, but hopefully is there, but yes m18x advantages would be due to using SD moblity and hoeverver any other GPU, it would require much less power computation and having lower heats as well...for sacrificing perfectness beside it biggrin.gif
i guess m18x going to be great choice for hard core gamers...i am so excited to c the reviews.
BTW nowadays CrossFire scales are perferming better than SLI scales....specialty, in more heavier games....i didnt fin crysis 2 suitable with 485m sli with those drivers errors and low FPS ! lol we should wait for new drivers.. but 6970m CF already has better FPS in crysis 2 and 1 and METOR 2033 all MAXED out and some other games...which made me to buy it, cuz paying 700USD more for only 7 % increasing in performance is a lots of WASTE
i guess if they use 6970m CF in m18x that would be nice choice fot those who are needy! having monster lappppppys

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Apr 23 2011, 10:56 AM)
but even though ther are not that efficient, using core i7 desktops in these laptops....always in notebookcheck benchmarks, they have the MAX Performance compare to any other laptops.

yes financial i do agreeeee.....both are expensive machines if we really want to customize something like a real BEAST/

regarding of your last line, it think with choosing a 6970m CF we can have long battery in x7200 due to turning of CF scale and switch to VPU graphic core, its one of the features of 6970m as well, like the M17X  but i am not sure...YEs but as i mentioned with even using 2920XM i dun think so it will be possible to beat the score benchmarks of a GTX45mSLI and 6970m CF of a sager laptop as i mentioned due to having almost 600WAT power adapters for them plus a desktop CPU would use ALL THE POTENTIAL of these sli and CF configuration... . this would be for sure.
GTX485m SLI will not be available for m18x i guess...even 6970m CF there is doubts, but hopefully is there, but yes m18x advantages would be due to using SD moblity and hoeverver any other GPU, it would require much less power computation and having lower heats as well...for sacrificing perfectness beside it biggrin.gif
i guess m18x going to be great choice for hard core gamers...i am so excited to c the reviews.
BTW nowadays CrossFire scales are perferming better than SLI scales....specialty, in more heavier games....i didnt fin crysis 2 suitable with 485m sli with those drivers errors and low FPS ! lol we should wait for new drivers.. but 6970m CF already has better FPS in crysis 2 and 1 and METOR 2033 all MAXED out and some other games...which made me to buy it, cuz paying 700USD more for only 7 % increasing in performance is a lots of WASTE
i guess if they use 6970m CF in m18x that would be nice choice fot those who are needy! having monster lappppppys
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because there are no laptops with a SB proc and dual gpu yet. so m18x will be the 1st. the x7200 was never a full scale flagship laptop. i was an experimental by looking at it. they did an absolute wonderful job at making a wee x58 board size and slap a desktop proc on it. but know the inefficiency of a desktop chips on a laptop, aw opted out. i dont think your wish of an aw with desktop processor is goin to happen for any time. it is also pointless at this time to insert a hexacore processor in a laptop as it has minimal utilization for all six core. most games run perfectly of 2 and 4 cores. the other 2 has little or no usage thus making it a liability for the system.

and of course....u wont see any of a dsktp proc on an AW laptop becos of their flagship auroras and alx. putting these processors means that their desktop would make minimal impact on the market or the other way around. both has its pros n cons.

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