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sjz
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Aug 23 2013, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Aug 15 2013, 05:25 PM) this is the spectre of DCC (direct curreny conversion). You are suppose to be able to say No but I have been a victim where we are not allowed to. well documented on travel forums especially in China Yup.. I just realised its DCC which is a scam... Remember to mention to the merchant to charge in LOCAL CURRENCY (eg. not RM) before let them take your card to prevent any issues after they swap the card... Do not agree to pass them you card if they refuse to charge in Local Currency. So far this worked in Phuket Thailand, where there is no DCC transaction so far for around 10 transactions made over there and by asking the merchant in prior to charge in Thai Bath.. This post has been edited by sjz: Aug 23 2013, 07:28 PM
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doraemon_p
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Aug 25 2013, 03:43 PM
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New Member
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OCBC MASTERCARD TITANIUM Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 24-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 112.09 Exchange rate : 4.4836
Maybankard 2 MasterCard GOLD Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 24-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 112.10 Exchange rate : 4.484
Maybankard 2 MasterCard AMEX Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 23-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 113.42 Exchange rate : 4.5368
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alexwsk
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Aug 25 2013, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(doraemon_p @ Aug 25 2013, 03:43 PM) OCBC MASTERCARD TITANIUM Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 24-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 112.09 Exchange rate : 4.4836 Maybankard 2 MasterCard GOLD Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 24-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 112.10 Exchange rate : 4.484 Maybankard 2 MasterCard AMEX Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013 Posting date : 23-Aug-2013 EUR 25 RM 113.42 Exchange rate : 4.5368 can't believe the rate for M2 Master is now higher than OCBC Master
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cenkudu
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Aug 26 2013, 04:53 AM
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Aug 25 2013, 08:35 PM) can't believe the rate for M2 Master is now higher than OCBC Master  I already mentioned this few months back either MBB has increased their rate or OCBC become better
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cyang
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Sep 4 2013, 11:19 AM
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Rate USD 2.79 Amex MYR 9.40 3.3692 USD 36.66 Ocbc MYR 122.29 3.3358
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TSMilesAndMore
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Sep 4 2013, 04:02 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Aug 26 2013, 04:53 AM) I already mentioned this few months back either MBB has increased their rate or OCBC become better Been monitoring my spending charged in foreign currency in the past 3 months, it is definitely because MBB has increased their rate/admin charge. Everything was still fine until end of July
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b00n
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Sep 6 2013, 10:29 AM
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delusional
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Online - Amazon:
Posted Date : 14 Aug 2013 Amount charged : USD 68.77 Converted Amount : MYR 229.41 Final Exchange rate: 3.3359
Rate on Visa International: USD 1 = 3.254 MYR
2.5% charge only for this transaction.
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Darkmage12
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Sep 6 2013, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(sjz @ Aug 23 2013, 07:26 PM) Yup.. I just realised its DCC which is a scam... Remember to mention to the merchant to charge in LOCAL CURRENCY (eg. not RM) before let them take your card to prevent any issues after they swap the card... Do not agree to pass them you card if they refuse to charge in Local Currency. So far this worked in Phuket Thailand, where there is no DCC transaction so far for around 10 transactions made over there and by asking the merchant in prior to charge in Thai Bath.. Can shed some light why it is a scam? They charge you higher?
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sjz
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Sep 8 2013, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Sep 6 2013, 11:20 PM) Can shed some light why it is a scam? They charge you higher? yup...their exchange rate is always about 5% mark up from the prevailing rate... and the merchant get a share of comision with the DCC fees u pay.. and some credit card issuers still charge 2% (1% by Visa, 1% by bank) even u use DCC!!
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Darkmage12
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Sep 8 2013, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(sjz @ Sep 8 2013, 02:48 AM) yup...their exchange rate is always about 5% mark up from the prevailing rate... and the merchant get a share of comision with the DCC fees u pay.. and some credit card issuers still charge 2% (1% by Visa, 1% by bank) even u use DCC!! The other day I get my card charge in Japan but instead of Yen it was charged in USD. Is this DCC as well? Well on the receipt it showed Yen but then the bank SMS showed USD.
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sjz
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Sep 8 2013, 11:53 AM
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yup...i think it should be DCC... the receipt does it got some long word like "i am offered a choice to pay in local currency and i agree to pay in local currency with the Visa/Master reference rate and mark up stated clearly"
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Darkmage12
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Sep 9 2013, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(sjz @ Sep 8 2013, 11:53 AM) yup...i think it should be DCC... the receipt does it got some long word like "i am offered a choice to pay in local currency and i agree to pay in local currency with the Visa/Master reference rate and mark up stated clearly" I'm not sure as the receipt is in Japanese. Well can't do much but it seems converting to USD is more or less the same
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sjz
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Sep 9 2013, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Sep 9 2013, 10:16 AM) I'm not sure as the receipt is in Japanese. Well can't do much but it seems converting to USD is more or less the same yup... u won't lose a fortune....since its just less than 5% difference (usual bank charge 2%, DCC won't be more than 7-8%)..... but the figures would add up if every transaction is in DCC overseas.. This post has been edited by sjz: Sep 9 2013, 01:13 PM
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0 Replies to me (BETA)
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Sep 10 2013, 12:13 PM
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Getting Started

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Maybankard 2 VISA gold Posting date : 09-Sep-2013 Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013 Amount charged : US$110.84 Converted Amount : RM374.93 Exchange rate: 3.3826 ffuuuuu
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virgoguy
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Sep 10 2013, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(0 Replies to me (BETA) @ Sep 10 2013, 12:13 PM) Maybankard 2 VISA gold Posting date : 09-Sep-2013 Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013 Amount charged : US$110.84 Converted Amount : RM374.93 Exchange rate: 3.3826 ffuuuuu  I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%? ( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check) Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%)
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0 Replies to me (BETA)
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Sep 10 2013, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Sep 10 2013, 03:18 PM) I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%? ( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check) Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%) ah ic.. thanks
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TSMilesAndMore
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Sep 10 2013, 04:01 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Sep 10 2013, 03:18 PM) QUOTE(0 Replies to me (BETA) @ Sep 10 2013, 12:13 PM) Maybankard 2 VISA gold Posting date : 09-Sep-2013 Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013 Amount charged : US$110.84 Converted Amount : RM374.93 Exchange rate: 3.3826 ffuuuuu  I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%? ( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check) Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%) While Maybank claims it is only 1%, we all know that it is more than that. That is why the final exchange rate he got is RM3.3826.
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virgoguy
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Sep 10 2013, 04:02 PM
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hi guys is it better to use cash(enough for non CC service) + MC at US or all cash at US
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zenquix
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Sep 10 2013, 04:53 PM
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Basically since Aug-01 it has been observed that MBB now charges much higher exchange rate fees and prior to that it was 1.25% above the rate @ posting date (modelled from data mining) and not 1%.
Visa rate on Sep-9 = 3.308000 MBB rate = 3.3826
Effective new MBB charge = 2.25%
Edit: Typo - rate should be 2.25%
=(3.38262360158787-3.308)/3.308
This post has been edited by zenquix: Sep 10 2013, 05:14 PM
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0 Replies to me (BETA)
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Sep 10 2013, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 10 2013, 04:01 PM) I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%? ( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check) Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%) While Maybank claims it is only 1%, we all know that it is more than that. That is why the final exchange rate he got is RM3.3826. yeah. it seems like mine was around 1.2% This post has been edited by 0 Replies to me (BETA): Sep 10 2013, 05:01 PM
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