I guess it depends whether you think your current system has adequate or inadequate bass, since you would be moving from floorstanders to bookshelfs by going for the BR2 or 602 S3. Having said that, the 602 S3 are pretty large bookshelf speakers and may not really lose out a lot in terms of bass depth and weight. Personally, I think they look rather ugly and clumsy as I find them too large to be bookshelfs.

In bass heavier rooms/systems, I have found a definite improvement in transparency, speed and tautness by going for bookshelf speakers, as the midrange is not muddied up by the overpowering bass.

I think both those speakers you mentioned are a step up from your Wharfedales in terms of quality. I'm not a fan of budget floorstanders, as I think only when you move up the range that the manufacturers are able to minimise some of the physical downsides that larger cabinets bring. Looking at the rest of your system, I think they deserve better than the Wharfedales too. I have listened to the BR2 before, and used to own a pair of 601 S3. Between the two models you mentioned, I would go for the BR2, but only if your system does not currently suffer from lack of bass.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 3 2008, 02:23 PM

I had auditioned both speakers this morning. With all due respect, as to my personal preferance, i do favour the B&W compared to BR2. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that BR2 is bad, otherwise it won't get 5 stars from 'What Hi-Fi'. I do feel the balance of clarity and ummph with the B&W. Woman voice just so sweet and wide soundstaging. To me BR2 sound too bright but i'm impressed with the 'punch' produce by this small box. It looks 'cun' also.

I do agree with you, my system deserve better than the Wharfadale. Bass is the problem. Howcome i did'nt notice it before

Yes, I do agree the B&W's clarity is rather good, but I thought the sound was a bit metallic compared to better speakers. The 602 S3 is an older but more expensive speaker than the BR2, so it's also not that surprising that you thought it was better. However, unless you actually did an A-B comparison of the two speakers, it's hard to really tell conclusively, because the equipment and cables that each speaker was connected to can make a lot of difference to what you heard.

I brought along my amps and we were using marantz cd63 as the source. Same cables and cds too. Anyway case is closed. Another very nice & helpful forumer was there during the audition and he came first...... he bought the B&W too. So, the hunting continues

Thank for your comment earlier. It did help. I knew a bit about both speakers before i entered the auditioned room

pardon me being newbie i this thread.

actually i am not new in this HiFi world. My 1st system consist of Pioneer PSD703 + Audiolab 8000 (Mark2) +TDL RTL3 and thats way back in 1994 and after 8 years with them i have to let them go due to some financial difficulties.

So now I wanna get back to HiFi world and i dont know where to start. The budget is around 3k for a start (CD player,Amp,speakers). I am into Pink Floyd/Dire straights kind of music. My preference would be bookshelf speakers & active subwoofer ( it can be sattelite speakers too ), so would like to ask for any suggestion??

all suggestion are welcome. I dont mind 2nd hand item as long as it's in great condition.

This post has been edited by lelucky: Apr 8 2008, 06:06 AM

lelucky, if you can extend your budget to about RM4.5k, you'll be able to buy into some new entry level models like Marantz CD6002 and Marantz PM6002.

For 3k, you'll just have to keep your eyes peeled on The Star Audiomart or hifi4sale.blogspot

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 9 2008, 04:44 PM

thanks for the reply. As i said, i am lost of the new product and i dont mind a 2nd hand item as long as it's in great condition.

any suggestion are welcome. I am looking into clarity and good bass. Can somebody list what are best for 3k budget even 2nd hand item if i can find one. Sorry for the trouble.

lelucky, I think not much point if we tell you what second hand items to go for, because you can't really control what is available on the used market anyway. Better that you check back with us here when you come across something interesting on those two sites I mentioned.

Brother,

do consider using DAC such as ZERO for your HIFI instead of Marantz, which is expensive. with the DAC u can swap opamp to suit your taste, the best things is these DAC is no less superior.

as for your amp, I think your audiolab still rank high in the hifi list.

do u know how difficult to get that audiolab back then. pity me i have to depart with it...

im looking for an amp 2 replace my 80's louya old kenwood amp

ive got speakers already but now looking for a good amp for about rm 300-400 bux

i dont have money 2 get marantz etc so im just looking for a decent branded amp for that money and get the best for the buck

any suggestions on where i should start looking.. ?

http://www.hifi4sale.blogspot.com/
http://sites.thestar.com.my/audio/classads.asp?s=audiomart

But generally the cheapest amps I've seen advertised here are in the region of RM800 to RM1000, something like this:
http://hifi4sale.blogspot.com/2008/04/camb...integrated.html

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 14 2008, 04:12 PM

Just upload my Yamaha Piano Craft Micro Hi-Fi...

Balance between performance and price

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/672790

This post has been edited by aawcy: Apr 24 2008, 10:45 PM

Wow.. that is a very good website oh.. Can see lots of hi fi for sale. I will go audition this weekend. Planning to grab a pair of B&W DM600 S3. Unsure of the price though. Anyone has this speaker?

anyone know how much is MARANTZ PM7001 Intergrated Stereo Amplifier & Cambridge Audio Azur 640AV2 cost at the moment?
I think both price come close...

which one is better in MUSIC handling?

This post has been edited by aawcy: Apr 28 2008, 10:08 PM

guys,

i really have no clue on this speaker thing. So please help me out ok.

I am getting either the Onkyo 705 or the Yamaha 1800

Which type/brand of speaker is good to pair with them. Budget around RM1500 for a 5.1 / 7.1 setup. Too much too little please let me know.

Edit - Mainly to watch blu-ray movies and play ps3 games. Occasional music

Many thanks

This post has been edited by X-Zen: May 1 2008, 11:55 AM

RM1500 for a 5.1/7.1 speaker set to be paired with either of the above AV receivers is way too little. You should be looking to spend about RM4k.

Can consider the Monitor Audio BR range for that price, if you prefer full size speakers. If you want compact speakers, then consider Acoustic Energy Aego-T.

compact speaker also around that price?

also can i mix the speaker ie the front speakers i'll use full size speakers but the surround and back ones, i'll use the compact speakers. Any cons?

Matching front and back is desirable but not so critical. But you should at least make sure your front and center speakers are from the same range of speakers.

I wonder who has the power amplifier like Krell / Audio Research. How would such Krell amp compare to Cambridge audio, audiolab or other integrated amp. A class above ?