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Andy214
post Apr 12 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:15 PM)
save longer for D90  rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif

@andy, if i wan sharper subject picture i need to make aperture smaller? hmm.gif
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If you want to focus and re-compose and you're shooting close up, then try using smaller aperture, you can stop down the aperture and try. Also make sure you hold the camera steady because close up shot, your slight movement (body/hand/camera) will affect the focus plane; You might not even know you did move, because when shooting close up, usually we take our time to compose the picture and shoot.
If you use Tripod, then the movement problem is very much reduced.

For your case, if you stop down too much, then it will affect the EFFECT you want to achieve, like you want to blur out certain parts; So you need to play around with the aperture to get the EFFECT you want, and still capable of letting you focus and re-compose. When you focus and recompose, try to maintain "within" the focus plane.

When you stop down, you need to compensate with slower shutter speed or increase ISO (if it's lowlight); In this case, shooting handheld, you have limited shutter speed, you have to revert to ISO; unless you're using tripod.
WHen you increase ISO, it will affect your overall image quality and sharpness; If you really want to maximize the performance, get good lighting or use flash. If you friend have flash gun, try borrow and bounce the flash off the wall, and experience the improvement on the overall image result you will be getting.
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post Apr 12 2011, 05:00 PM

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soft . my eye or .......

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post Apr 12 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:00 PM)
soft . my eye or .......
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No it is not your eye problem it is soft. smile.gif
I did crop and do some akward stuffs on it. therefore it looks soft. tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2011, 05:04 PM

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what would u all choose between 35mm f1.8 vs nissin di866? which one will u all buy 1st?
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post Apr 12 2011, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:04 PM)
what would u all choose between 35mm f1.8 vs nissin di866? which one will u all buy 1st?
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it depend on your . flash would bring another feel in your photo. just my opinion , especially food photography.

if you can fork out until to get a nissin di866, better save up for a sb700 .



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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:04 PM)
what would u all choose between 35mm f1.8 vs nissin di866? which one will u all buy 1st?
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if you are new you don't have to buy anything. master what you currently have in your hand then move on, you can move on to prime lens/2.8 constant lens/flash...
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post Apr 12 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:04 PM)
what would u all choose between 35mm f1.8 vs nissin di866? which one will u all buy 1st?
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I went with flash first, no regrets smile.gif. But nowadays I rarely use my flash LOL.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Apr 12 2011, 05:02 PM)
No it is not your eye problem it is soft. smile.gif
I did crop and do some akward stuffs on it. therefore it looks soft.  tongue.gif
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then make it more soft brows.gif

photoshop duplicate the layer, grussian blur 3-4 px, set the layer on top of the default layer and set the layer type into overlay, adjust opacity according to your eyes and see the effect laugh.gif brows.gif

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One of the reason i sold my D3100 because i need quick access. Everytime must go to menu , really waste time. I like more features and more buttons. D300s above look good , can switch AF-A,AF-C,AF-S faster , and area mode dynamic , single point. That y play dota , i like to use skillful heroes laugh.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2011, 03:52 PM)
I guess you're shooting close-up with 35mm f/1.8 @ f/1.8?
If yes, the DOF is shallow, and if you move even a little the focus plane will change; To test this, you can try use AF-C, then focus on one area and hold it. If the lens re-focus, it means you moved a little and the focus plane changed. In this situation, using AF-C you might get less chance of OOF; BUt with AF-C, you can't focus and re-compose.

IF you're using AF-S and shooting up-close @ f/1.8, and you're using focus and re-compose, then your problem is obvious.
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Very good explanation Andy rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:38 PM)
Hehe, actually I'm referring to the article writer when I see the title. The focus re-compose technique is not something new, plus it's widely use, especially when there is only 1 focus point, or for point and shoot, or handphone camera. For DSLR, it more towards how the user use the camera; ESPECIALLY, when they start to explore big aperture lens, go nuts with wide open, and not understanding DOF, focus plane, etc. ended up blaming everything else but themselves.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:49 PM)
next target might be full frame  unsure.gif
but still loooonnnnngggg wayyyyy toooooo gooooo tongue.gif


Added on April 12, 2011, 1:49 pm

i guess state your budget and let those pros suggestion better... maybe some begginer body perform better than that.
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i ROFL when i see your post laugh.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:45 PM)
If you want to focus and re-compose and you're shooting close up, then try using smaller aperture, you can stop down the aperture and try. Also make sure you hold the camera steady because close up shot, your slight movement (body/hand/camera) will affect the focus plane; You might not even know you did move, because when shooting close up, usually we take our time to compose the picture and shoot.
If you use Tripod, then the movement problem is very much reduced.

For your case, if you stop down too much, then it will affect the EFFECT you want to achieve, like you want to blur out certain parts; So you need to play around with the aperture to get the EFFECT you want, and still capable of letting you focus and re-compose. When you focus and recompose, try to maintain "within" the focus plane.

When you stop down, you need to compensate with slower shutter speed or increase ISO (if it's lowlight); In this case, shooting handheld, you have limited shutter speed, you have to revert to ISO; unless you're using tripod.
WHen you increase ISO, it will affect your overall image quality and sharpness; If you really want to maximize the performance, get good lighting or use flash. If you friend have flash gun, try borrow and bounce the flash off the wall, and experience the improvement on the overall image result you will be getting.
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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:04 PM)
what would u all choose between 35mm f1.8 vs nissin di866? which one will u all buy 1st?
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for my case i cannot use flash because i m a underskirt candid/ ninja shooter and when i flash all people will mad at me sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:07 PM)
then make it more soft brows.gif

photoshop duplicate the layer, grussian blur 3-4 px, set the layer on top of the default layer and set the layer type into overlay, adjust opacity according to your eyes and see the effect  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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that pretty much works in my eye. brows.gif
well frankly spoken I am learning photoshop and lightroom nowadays. unlike before my photo will come to lightroom first. tongue.gif
Enjoying free trial though tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2011, 05:07 PM)
I went with flash first, no regrets smile.gif. But nowadays I rarely use my flash LOL.
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What we call you is available light photographer brows.gif brows.gif

This baru geng. F1.4 , Full frame ISO all the way.
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:10 PM)
i ROFL when i see your post  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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which post?
"the some beginner body (D3100) is better than mid range (D80) body?" rolleyes.gif

@andy : anyway thanks for guide, tomorrow will try again with different distance first tongue.gif ...
if outside got sexy "ang mo" in swimming pool then i try to shoot with my 70-300 cheap lens hehe...but not nice one la because very far from my 2th floor office whistling.gif

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QUOTE(s|dE @ Apr 12 2011, 04:10 PM)
yeah..+1 for your opinion.
i want to go further in this field..and for starting, i prefer not so basic dslr like d3100.even it got so many added value and many features.most of the ex user of d3100 tend to sell after 6monts to 1 year usage to upgrade because already familiar.if i got so much money, its ok for me to upgrade in the short period of time. smile.gif but im not that kind of rich person..

with this kind of budget, what is the best for 2nd hand DSLR.. icon_question.gif
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Go for D90 good enough. Brand new body only 2.2k +-


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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:13 PM)
which post?
"the some beginner body (D3100) is better than mid range (D80) body?" rolleyes.gif
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Later wan FF later wan flash later wan D7k later want prime lens tongue.gif laugh.gif



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post Apr 12 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:13 PM)
which post?
"the some beginner body (D3100) is better than mid range (D80) body?" rolleyes.gif
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ccd < Cmos
10mp < 14mp iinm
none < full hd recording

dual dial < single dial

af motor > no build in af motor

bracketing > cannot do bracketing.

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Apr 12 2011, 05:06 PM)
if you are new you don't have to buy anything. master what you currently have in your hand then move on, you can move on to prime lens/2.8 constant lens/flash...
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i am not *new, but i am New to nikon icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:11 PM)
What we call you is available light photographer  brows.gif  brows.gif

This baru geng. F1.4 , Full frame ISO all the way.
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Prefer not to use flash as most of the time flash makes PP life tough sad.gif. If really want to use flash, you need to have matching color gels then the outcome would be nice!

FX and f/1.4 not exactly the reason tongue.gif with D90 and f/2.8 I've started shooting without flash! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:14 PM)
Later wan FF later wan flash later wan D7k later want prime lens  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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I want everything! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
P/S : If I have monehh laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Apr 12 2011, 05:16 PM)
I want everything!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
P/S : If I have monehh  laugh.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
same rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Apr 12 2011, 05:15 PM)
i am not *new, but i am New to nikon  icon_rolleyes.gif
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well if that in the case it comes to preference whether you want something new which might be flash.
constant zoom. or prime.
well I'd say it depends on people preference
last time I bought my flash first as I am listening to suggestion by KTCY when I started my photography well the flash end up sold by me tongue.gif
I prefer prime lens to constant zoom lens.

however I couldn't deny the fact that I want constant zoom lens too. tongue.gif
Give me lah abang!

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